Biphobia in the LGBT community

[Eastern Denmark]

Ah, so I'm not alone in not wanting to be in the LGBT "community".

There’s actually a good chunk of people who dont want to be apart of it. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to have gay friends but I don’t want to segregate myself from the rest of the world based on one thing.

Segregate yourself? Who does that? I’ve never met an LGBT group or even person that refuses to interact or have friends outside the LGBT+ community, that’s a weird them thing, not an LGBT thing..

[Thermodolia]

And those are still pretty fucking toxic. Where I a guy with a generally masculine personality am told that I have repressed my gayness and that I have internalized homophobia for just having a masculine personality.

Well then you met a pretty garbage group, and I’m sorry you experienced that. But don’t take that and decide that any LGBT group is toxic and harmful, because theyre not

Just about every group I’ve bumped into has been that way. The community is hot garbage and I want no part of it

[Scomagia]

Who is "they"? I've never used that term. I prefer anti-bi as a descriptor.

Who's "they"...for fuck's sake...

It's a fair fucking question.

[Paleoconservative Citizens]

I thought the term they went with on this issue was 'bi-erasure'.

Biphobia is more the general idea of being prejudiced towards bisexuals. Bi erasure is its natural consequence.

I am heteroflexible and I don't even want to be Considered LGBT

Don't worry, I don't think anyone was planning on that.

Me neither. People think I'm a blatant homophobe, when I don't hate gay people.
._.

It's hard to explain

[Eastern Denmark]

Well then you met a pretty garbage group, and I’m sorry you experienced that. But don’t take that and decide that any LGBT group is toxic and harmful, because theyre not

Just about every group I’ve bumped into has been that way. The community is hot garbage and I want no part of it

Must have not bumped into many groups then, or just tried a bunch of groups in a bad place (ie tumblr)

[The South Falls]

Well then you met a pretty garbage group, and I’m sorry you experienced that. But don’t take that and decide that any LGBT group is toxic and harmful, because theyre not

Just about every group I’ve bumped into has been that way. The community is hot garbage and I want no part of it

I don't know who you bumped into...

[Thermodolia]

There’s actually a good chunk of people who dont want to be apart of it. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to have gay friends but I don’t want to segregate myself from the rest of the world based on one thing.

Segregate yourself? Who does that? I’ve never met an LGBT group or even person that refuses to interact or have friends outside the LGBT+ community, that’s a weird them thing, not an LGBT thing..

Your telling me you’ve never heard of Gay men and maybe Bi guys only sports leagues? Or any number of organizations that restrict their number to gay men? Or hell ever gone to a gay bar? Several of those places will kick you out if you’re a women or straight

[Cannot think of a name]

Who's "they"...for fuck's sake...

It's a fair fucking question.

Sure. I'm out. This is where the conversation is, I'm out.

[Luvria]

I've never heard it in person from any gay, lesbian or transgender person off the internet but I do know the view that bisexuals don't exist, are just confused straight people etc is there in the LGBT community. Sort of a bizarre thing to think.

I'm not unconvinced that most of it comes from people that got cheated on.

[Eastern Denmark]

Segregate yourself? Who does that? I’ve never met an LGBT group or even person that refuses to interact or have friends outside the LGBT+ community, that’s a weird them thing, not an LGBT thing..

Your telling me you’ve never heard of Gay men and maybe Bi guys only sports leagues? Or any number of organizations that restrict their number to gay men? Or hell ever gone to a gay bar? Several of those places will kick you out if you’re a women or straight

Absolutely not? Never.

Those sound like SJW bars and sports leagues to me

[The South Falls]

I've never heard it in person from any gay, lesbian or transgender person off the internet but I do know the view that bisexuals don't exist, are just confused straight people etc is there in the LGBT community. Sort of a bizarre thing to think.

I'm not unconvinced that most of it comes from people that got cheated on.

Nah it's tribalistic mfers with justice boners

[Thermodolia]

Just about every group I’ve bumped into has been that way. The community is hot garbage and I want no part of it

Must have not bumped into many groups then, or just tried a bunch of groups in a bad place (ie tumblr)

Never been on tumblr. Doesn’t help that my city is full of self-obsessed and vapid individuals in “community”.

You can be a part of it if ya want but I don’t

[Scomagia]

It's a fair fucking question.

Sure. I'm out. This is where the conversation is, I'm out.

Okay? So, if the conversation is at the point that I ask you who is using a word you mentioned, you're done? Honestly, I don't follow.

[Thermodolia]

Your telling me you’ve never heard of Gay men and maybe Bi guys only sports leagues? Or any number of organizations that restrict their number to gay men? Or hell ever gone to a gay bar? Several of those places will kick you out if you’re a women or straight

Absolutely not? Never.

Those sound like SJW bars and sports leagues to me

They are the majority of the gay community though. SJW or not that’s the gay community you are singing praises about

[Luvria]

There’s actually a good chunk of people who dont want to be apart of it. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to have gay friends but I don’t want to segregate myself from the rest of the world based on one thing.

Segregate yourself? Who does that? I’ve never met an LGBT group or even person that refuses to interact or have friends outside the LGBT+ community, that’s a weird them thing, not an LGBT thing..

No, the wider community can get pretty cliquey among other things. Which is why some LGBT people don't want to be associated with it.

It's not really not wanting to get involved with anyone in the LGBT community, it's more just finding a part of the community disagreeable. Some people have only had experiences with a part of it they don't like and think the entire community is just like that, which is unfortunate, but it happens.

[Eastern Denmark]

Absolutely not? Never.

Those sound like SJW bars and sports leagues to me

They are the majority of the gay community though. SJW or not that’s the gay community you are singing praises about

It’s really not though. That’s like saying anyone who says theyre a feminists is a “all men are pigs!” Nutjob. Your town or whatever is just wacky I guess, I’ve never experienced a community in person or online that gives two shits whether you’re even LGBT and want to join

[Lamaredia]

It's a fair fucking question.

Sure. I'm out. This is where the conversation is, I'm out.

I'm seriously wondering if you misunderstood his question. He asked who "they" are who have said the name is bi-erasure, which is a valid question. Who are the ones who have made that assertion?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Also, 5% of humans are completely straight, 5% are completely gay, about 5% (or was it 3%?) are asexual, and the rest belong on the bisexual continuum in between.

[Scomagia]

Segregate yourself? Who does that? I’ve never met an LGBT group or even person that refuses to interact or have friends outside the LGBT+ community, that’s a weird them thing, not an LGBT thing..

No, the wider community can get pretty cliquey among other things. Which is why some LGBT people don't want to be associated with it.

It's not really not wanting to get involved with anyone in the LGBT community, it's more just finding a part of the community disagreeable. Some people have only had experiences with a part of it they don't like and think the entire community is just like that, which is unfortunate, but it happens.

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

[Luvria]

No, the wider community can get pretty cliquey among other things. Which is why some LGBT people don't want to be associated with it.

It's not really not wanting to get involved with anyone in the LGBT community, it's more just finding a part of the community disagreeable. Some people have only had experiences with a part of it they don't like and think the entire community is just like that, which is unfortunate, but it happens.

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

...Well, I don't view the sexual part of it as the most important or main part either.

[Eastern Denmark]

No, the wider community can get pretty cliquey among other things. Which is why some LGBT people don't want to be associated with it.

It's not really not wanting to get involved with anyone in the LGBT community, it's more just finding a part of the community disagreeable. Some people have only had experiences with a part of it they don't like and think the entire community is just like that, which is unfortunate, but it happens.

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

I think we have different perspectives/experiences with the community. You’re suggesting the only commonality/talking point is sexuality, whereas for me it’s more of a “you have this thing in common and you’re in the same space, find out if you have similar interests and become friends over common experiences or whatever.” I treat it as a sort of starting point or place to meet people and maybe make friends, and I don’t have to worry about my friends being homophobes or whatever. Don’t care what their sexuality, gender, and whatever else is..

[Cekoviu]

Biphobia is more the general idea of being prejudiced towards bisexuals. Bi erasure is its natural consequence.

Don't worry, I don't think anyone was planning on that.

Me neither. People think I'm a blatant homophobe, when I don't hate gay people.
._.

It's hard to explain

Unfortunately, this is heavily contradicted by many of your posts.

[Scomagia]

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

...Well, I don't view the sexual part of it as the most important or main part either and think it's much more than that.

What I have seen from the LGBT community is an overemphasis on being LGBT. Just like how racial associations devolve into an overemphasis on race and men's clubs become overly focused on "masculinity".

Not interested. Hard pass.

[Cekoviu]

Your telling me you’ve never heard of Gay men and maybe Bi guys only sports leagues? Or any number of organizations that restrict their number to gay men? Or hell ever gone to a gay bar? Several of those places will kick you out if you’re a women or straight

Absolutely not? Never.

Those sound like SJW bars and sports leagues to me

We would never restrict a bar to men, trust me. That's entirely counter to our evil matriarchal goals.

[Scomagia]

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

I think we have different perspectives/experiences with the community. You’re suggesting the only commonality/talking point is sexuality, whereas for me it’s more of a “you have this thing in common and you’re in the same space, find out if you have similar interests and become friends over common experiences or whatever.” I treat it as a sort of starting point or place to meet people and maybe make friends, and I don’t have to worry about my friends being homophobes or whatever. Don’t care what their sexuality, gender, and whatever else is..

The "community" is explicitly focused on sex, gender, and sexuality. It's in the name.

If you find something useful in it, fine. I'm actually glad for you. It holds zero value for me, however.