Biphobia in the LGBT community

[Scomagia]

Speak for yourself. My sexy ass has caused car accidents from all the gawking.

My thighs clap together and start an earthquake. I have the abs of a mannequin. I bench and deadlift the sun. You want height? I'm 16'10"

Looks like you get it.

[Cekoviu]

In my experience, biphobia is fairly rare among the LGBT community. The instances I've seen that aren't extremist posts generally stem from fear of dating bi people, a fear I harbor myself. The idea of being cheated on with someone of the opposite sex is, as a gay person, terrifying. That's the only real "biphobia" I see that isn't extreme or irrational.

But bi people aren't more likely to cheat..? Or do you just mean that it would bother you more if they cheated on you with someone of another gender than someone of the same gender?

[Scomagia]

Speak for yourself. My sexy ass has caused car accidents from all the gawking.

That's not sexy that's criminal.

Hey, there's no law against being so sexy that people around lose their senses.

[Aboveland]

As a rebuttal to the latter answer, I stated that it is impossible for bisexuality to be a phase since people cannot change their sexual orientation since sexual orientation is the result of genetic and biological factors. I say that while a few people might think they are bisexual when they are really curious, most bisexuals are genuinely bisexual. That shuts up some of biphobes, but shockingly, others stated that they believed that sexual orientation is a choice. This is coming from homosexuals who are active in the LGBT rights movement. The same movement which works to spread the truth that sexual orientation isn't a choice.

I get your point but sexuality DOES change. You're correct in that you can't really choose to change it, but it does change - Mine did and many people's do over the course of their lives.

I firmly believe what changes is our perception of our own sexuality rather than our sexuality itself. As time goes on we explore and experiment with different feelings, and we might discover that what we like has changed, or that we like something more than what we had originally thought. Its more about sexuality being a deeply complex matter that's constantly being rediscovered than something that changes.

[The South Falls]

My thighs clap together and start an earthquake. I have the abs of a mannequin. I bench and deadlift the sun. You want height? I'm 16'10"

Looks like you get it.

The standards for men's desirability are honestly immense and incredibly unattainable. Even if you spend 1/3 of your life toiling at the gym, you may still be called an undersize midget and garner no positive interaction.

[Cekoviu]

TERFs are just terrible in every way. They spew shit like "bi women are repressed lesbians and bi men only fuck men because they're misogynists".

Men having sexual attraction

TERFs: Is that a personal attack or something?

Nah, they wouldn't ask it as a question. They'd say "that's a personal attack, you MRA!"

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Oh yeah, it's an issue. It's not as big of a problem as racism and transphobia, but it's a problem. You've got people on one hand saying that bisexuality is transphobic and people on the other saying bisexuals aren't oppressed.

Bisexuality isn't transphobic. Being bi doesn't automatically include or exclude trans people including non-binary people, what people are attracted toward varies depending on the person.

And I can't help but think some people who say bisexuality is transphobic aren't even trans but just concern trolls.

[Lamaredia]

Bisexual implies almost equal attraction to both sexes. The terms heteroflexible and homoflexibile are used to refer to people that lean more one way.

Huh, new terms.

My personal favourites are andro- and gynephilia, attraction to masculinity and femininity respectively. I'm bisexual, I'm attracted mostly to femininity no matter the sex of the partner, so gynephilia was a good word for me to learn.

[Cekoviu]

Oh yeah, it's an issue. It's not as big of a problem as racism and transphobia, but it's a problem. You've got people on one hand saying that bisexuality is transphobic and people on the other saying bisexuals aren't oppressed.

Bisexuality isn't transphobic. Being bi doesn't automatically include or exclude trans people including non-binary people, what people are attracted toward varies depending on the person.

And I can't help but think some people who say bisexuality is transphobic aren't even trans but just concern trolls.

Yes, that is all true.
The "it's transphobic" crowd seem to be almost entirely pansexuals, many of whom aren't even trans.

[Lamaredia]

Oh yeah, it's an issue. It's not as big of a problem as racism and transphobia, but it's a problem. You've got people on one hand saying that bisexuality is transphobic and people on the other saying bisexuals aren't oppressed.

I've never understood either of those points. The first one, for some reason those against bisexuality has redefined it from being attracted to both sexes to being attracted to the two genders of the gender binary, meaning that anyone who's non-binary or trans is excluded, which isn't true at all. The second one is even more strange, are bisexuals not oppressed because they theoretically can be in a heterosexual relationship? We as bisexuals still don't choose which gender of person we fall in love with.

[The South Falls]

Men having sexual attraction

TERFs: Is that a personal attack or something?

Nah, they wouldn't ask it as a question. They'd say "that's a personal attack, you MRA!"

Then throw in a hasty chastisement for how we're discriminating against women and perpetuating misogyny due to our "manspreading" and "not getting pregnant" as opposed to tackling women's issues and attempting to better the average woman's existence.

[Lamaredia]

Bisexuality isn't transphobic. Being bi doesn't automatically include or exclude trans people including non-binary people, what people are attracted toward varies depending on the person.

And I can't help but think some people who say bisexuality is transphobic aren't even trans but just concern trolls.

Yes, that is all true.
The "it's transphobic" crowd seem to be almost entirely pansexuals, many of whom aren't even trans.

Pansexuality, if anything, seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Bisexuality as a concept doesn't exclude the non-binary, since even those not one of the binary genders still have a biological male or female sex. The only exception would be those who are intersex or who have a chromosome deviation I guess, but even then I've never heard of a non-transphobe bisexual having issues with that.

[Scomagia]

Hey, there's no law against being so sexy that people around lose their senses.

As much as I love this, let's stop the threadjack.

Indeed. The topic is Biphobia, not my incredibly sexy ass.

And back on topic, I've not noticed a lot of biphobia. When I have it has been from gays and lesbians, primarily, with a few straight folks thrown in there, too.

[Cekoviu]

Oh yeah, it's an issue. It's not as big of a problem as racism and transphobia, but it's a problem. You've got people on one hand saying that bisexuality is transphobic and people on the other saying bisexuals aren't oppressed.

I've never understood either of those points. The first one, for some reason those against bisexuality has redefined it from being attracted to both sexes to being attracted to the two genders of the gender binary, meaning that anyone who's non-binary or trans is excluded, which isn't true at all.

It's, uh, not actually the first thing either though (also, being attracted to men and women wouldn't exclude around 66% of trans people). It just means you're attracted to two or more genders.

The second one is even more strange, are bisexuals not oppressed because they theoretically can be in a heterosexual relationship? We as bisexuals still don't choose which gender of person we fall in love with.

Yes, that's the reasoning, since you can "pass for straight."

[The South Falls]

As much as I love this, let's stop the threadjack.

Indeed. The topic is Biphobia, not my incredibly sexy ass.

And back on topic, I've not noticed a lot of biphobia. When I have it has been from gays and lesbians, primarily, with a few straight folks thrown in there, too.

I feel as though the base of the conflagration is the tumblrinas who preach tolerance but refuse to practice it against non-minorities. Feeling that bi people are "usurping" minority's positions.

[Cekoviu]

Indeed. The topic is Biphobia, not my incredibly sexy ass.

And back on topic, I've not noticed a lot of biphobia. When I have it has been from gays and lesbians, primarily, with a few straight folks thrown in there, too.

I feel as though the base of the conflagration is the tumblrinas who preach tolerance but refuse to practice it against non-minorities. Feeling that bi people are "usurping" minority's positions.

Those aren't really a thing outside the constructed fantasy realities of "anti-SJWs." The issue is a misplaced sense of justice, really.

[Lamaredia]

I've never understood either of those points. The first one, for some reason those against bisexuality has redefined it from being attracted to both sexes to being attracted to the two genders of the gender binary, meaning that anyone who's non-binary or trans is excluded, which isn't true at all.

It's, uh, not actually the first thing either though (also, being attracted to men and women wouldn't exclude around 66% of trans people). It just means you're attracted to two or more genders.

The second one is even more strange, are bisexuals not oppressed because they theoretically can be in a heterosexual relationship? We as bisexuals still don't choose which gender of person we fall in love with.

Yes, that's the reasoning, since you can "pass for straight."

I mean, bisexuality per definition is attraction to the two sexes, same as homosexuality is attraction to your own sex and heterosexuality is attraction to the opposite sex. Sex and gender are two very different things.

Man, that's some bullshit reasoning that they have then. "Pass for straight" as if that is something that you want to do when you are attracted to both sexes.

[Agarntrop]

Saying bisexuality is transphobic is like saying that being gay is misogynist. It simply isn't true.

[Scomagia]

I feel as though the base of the conflagration is the tumblrinas who preach tolerance but refuse to practice it against non-minorities. Feeling that bi people are "usurping" minority's positions.

Those aren't really a thing outside the constructed fantasy realities of "anti-SJWs." The issue is a misplaced sense of justice, really.

I think the issue is stupid fucking tribalism, really.

[The South Falls]

I feel as though the base of the conflagration is the tumblrinas who preach tolerance but refuse to practice it against non-minorities. Feeling that bi people are "usurping" minority's positions.

Those aren't really a thing outside the constructed fantasy realities of "anti-SJWs." The issue is a misplaced sense of justice, really.

And of the culture of out-doing one's tolerance, like a fucked up competition.

[Lamaredia]

Saying bisexuality is transphobic is like saying that being gay is misogynist. It simply isn't true.

It's mostly TERFs with this opinion, and they are after all the scum of the earth.

[Cekoviu]

It's, uh, not actually the first thing either though (also, being attracted to men and women wouldn't exclude around 66% of trans people). It just means you're attracted to two or more genders.

Yes, that's the reasoning, since you can "pass for straight."

I mean, bisexuality per definition is attraction to the two sexes, same as homosexuality is attraction to your own sex and heterosexuality is attraction to the opposite sex. Sex and gender are two very different things.

That's not true, though. If you define it by deconstructing it into the independent meanings of the affixes used, yes, but that's not the functional definition. Like, if a completely gay man (Kinsey 6) dates a trans man, he's not bisexual all of a sudden just because the guy doesn't have a dick.

[The South Falls]

Saying bisexuality is transphobic is like saying that being gay is misogynist. It simply isn't true.

It's mostly TERFs with this opinion, and they are after all the scum of the earth.

Those are the most aggressive and rabid "activists" for anything.

[Eastern Denmark]

Those aren't really a thing outside the constructed fantasy realities of "anti-SJWs." The issue is a misplaced sense of justice, really.

I think the issue is stupid fucking tribalism, really.

Humans are naturally predisposed to want a feeling of belonging in a group, friends, political beliefs, favorite type of cheese. This isn’t unique in its tribalist similarities, and generally this group provides helpful support and knowledge that can save lives, so I don’t really think this is the greatest example of stupid tribalism. I think racists are better example of stupid tribalism

[Cekoviu]

Those aren't really a thing outside the constructed fantasy realities of "anti-SJWs." The issue is a misplaced sense of justice, really.

I think the issue is stupid fucking tribalism, really.

Riiiight, which provides the misplaced sense of justice.