Would God approve of Guns

[Ichlein]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

[Kernen]

Not for civilians.

Fortunately god doesn't get a say.

[Cekoviu]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

You can't.

[Highever]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

Exactly.

[Bluelight-R006]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

We can’t. I never thought the pope was delivered from God anyways.

[Telconi]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

Pssssst. You can't.

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[Ichlein]

Oh well, I still trust the Pope anyways. It's always good to have Faith.

[Cekoviu]

Oh well, I still trust the Pope anyways. It's always good to have Faith.

Not really (see: Jonestown, Waco, honor killings, etc), but okay.

[Kernen]

Oh well, I still trust the Pope anyways. It's always good to have Faith.

Faith without evidence is self delusion.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Nonsense. For years the "gun grabbers" have been meeting them more than halfway with pitiful half-measures like proposed assault weapons bans, micro-stamping bills, closing the gun show loophole, etc.

And gun nuts kept smearing them as "coming for your guns" anyway. This proved beyond a reasonable doubt that reality had no influence on gun nuts' worldview, which should've been no surprise from a worldview built on the idea that a bunch of non-uniformed civilians opening fire on a mass shooter and becoming indistinguishable FROM the shooter was a good idea.

It's only now that we realize that, no matter what we do, we were going to be falsely accused of "coming for your guns," that we have nothing to lose by actually doing so.

Welcome to the natural consequences of crying wolf.

>Pitiful half measures
>gun bans

Yes, the accusations were totally false ...

They were until now.

Welcome to the natural consequences of crying wolf.

[Kowani]

Oh well, I still trust the Pope anyways. It's always good to have Faith.

Not without evidence.

[Tristian]

Old Testament God would love guns, nukes, and death stars.
New Testament God: Probably.

[Napkizemlja]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

It wasn't an excuse to abuse power. Monarchs during the Reformation and Early Modern Period had a pretty reasonable interest in curtailing the power of the nobility, given how prone to revolts they were becoming and the increasing acceptability of regicide. If you read the history of medieval France and early modern France for example, you can see why the concept of divine right was appealing.

[Napkizemlja]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

Pssssst. You can't.

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Protestant's also embraced divine right. Martin Luther gave part of his defense of why it was just to suppress the Peasant's Revolt on the grounds of divine right. It was also for a time fashionable among Anglicans.

[Telconi]

Pssssst. You can't.

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Protestant's also embraced divine right. Martin Luther gave part of his defense of why it was just to suppress the Peasant's Revolt on the grounds of divine right. It was also for a time fashionable among Anglicans.

True, the church has done politically convenient things often and always.

[Ichlein]

Wait if the Kings in Medieval times claimed to be sent from god to rule (Divine Right) but it was just used as an excuse to abuse their power then how can we trust any religious figure like the pope?

It wasn't an excuse to abuse power. Monarchs during the Reformation and Early Modern Period had a pretty reasonable interest in curtailing the power of the nobility, given how prone to revolts they were becoming and the increasing acceptability of regicide. If you read the history of medieval France and early modern France for example, you can see why the concept of divine right was appealing.

The Reformation and Early Modern Period were not Medieval times. Medieval times was 500 AD to 1500 AD. The Reformation and Modern Period happened at 1500 AD, the end of the Medieval timeline. I am specifically talking about Medieval times.

[Jeoloba]

It wasn't an excuse to abuse power. Monarchs during the Reformation and Early Modern Period had a pretty reasonable interest in curtailing the power of the nobility, given how prone to revolts they were becoming and the increasing acceptability of regicide. If you read the history of medieval France and early modern France for example, you can see why the concept of divine right was appealing.

The Reformation and Early Modern Period were not Medieval times. Medieval times was 500 AD to 1500 AD. The Reformation and Modern Period happened at 1500 AD, the end of the Medieval timeline. I am specifically talking about Medieval times.

The concept of divine right was created by Protestants and Protestantism was not around during the Medieval times so kings back then did not use divine right as an excuse to abuse people. However it is foolish to believe kings would do any good with that idea as seeing most kings did not treat people that well. Thats why in most places in the world do not have monarchies.

[US-SSR]

I am God, and yes, I do in fact approve of guns.

Hey God, which bible is the correct bible?

Forget that, tell us whether humans were created after plants (Genesis 1) or before plants (Genesis 2)?

[Highever]

It wasn't an excuse to abuse power. Monarchs during the Reformation and Early Modern Period had a pretty reasonable interest in curtailing the power of the nobility, given how prone to revolts they were becoming and the increasing acceptability of regicide. If you read the history of medieval France and early modern France for example, you can see why the concept of divine right was appealing.

The Reformation and Early Modern Period were not Medieval times. Medieval times was 500 AD to 1500 AD. The Reformation and Modern Period happened at 1500 AD, the end of the Medieval timeline. I am specifically talking about Medieval times.

I mean the concept of divine right hardly had a hard stop in 1500. Its most famous advocate was in the 17th-18th centuries.

[The Liberated Territories]

I don't believe God exists, but if he did he'd probably disapprove. Mostly because he's a massive killjoy.

[Free Arabian Nation]

I don't believe God exists, but if he did he'd probably disapprove. Mostly because he's a massive killjoy.

IDK man, did you hear what happened to the Midianites?

[Ichlein]

The Reformation and Early Modern Period were not Medieval times. Medieval times was 500 AD to 1500 AD. The Reformation and Modern Period happened at 1500 AD, the end of the Medieval timeline. I am specifically talking about Medieval times.

The concept of divine right was created by Protestants and Protestantism was not around during the Medieval times so kings back then did not use divine right as an excuse to abuse people. However it is foolish to believe kings would do any good with that idea as seeing most kings did not treat people that well. Thats why in most places in the world do not have monarchies.

Grrr I going to have do some more research again on divine rights to understand this better. God damn I hate Divine Rights.

[Ichlein]

The Reformation and Early Modern Period were not Medieval times. Medieval times was 500 AD to 1500 AD. The Reformation and Modern Period happened at 1500 AD, the end of the Medieval timeline. I am specifically talking about Medieval times.

I mean the concept of divine right hardly had a hard stop in 1500. Its most famous advocate was in the 17th-18th centuries.

Ik now.

[Rojava Free State]

Biblical/Quranic God would be overjoyed upon realizing that his loyal followers found a more efficient way to kill infidels. God wouldn't just support guns. He would support every weapon capable of causing widespread death. With the amount of cold blooded hatred God exhibits in the bible and Quran toward those who don't believe in him, I can see him being totally cool with firearms as long as they're being used for holy war

[Great Algerstonia]

I find this to be irrelevant, as I do not believe in God, so in that case there wouldn’t really be anyone to approve of guns. I have never been given any sort of reason to believe in a God, and there is no evidence towards the existance of a God.