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Postby Kubra » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:24 am

Nakena wrote:
Kubra wrote: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.5468898
I mean, coming from Haaretz, I mean you know what's up.


How do you can possibly know the content of the article without being a subscirber to the newspaper given that it is premium? :p
I ain't getting a prompt. Doesn't Haaretz use an article limit or unblock certain topics/old articles?
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:30 am

Kubra wrote:
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How do you can possibly know the content of the article without being a subscirber to the newspaper given that it is premium? :p
I ain't getting a prompt. Doesn't Haaretz use an article limit or unblock certain topics/old articles?


After opening it in google cache it works oddly enough.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:34 am

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Kubra wrote: I ain't getting a prompt. Doesn't Haaretz use an article limit or unblock certain topics/old articles?


After opening it in google cache it works oddly enough.
I'm gonna guess article limit. Honestly I never understand why some Haaretz articles work and some don't, they never reveal their seekrit algorithm.
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Postby Hirota » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:12 am

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Kubra wrote: I ain't getting a prompt. Doesn't Haaretz use an article limit or unblock certain topics/old articles?


After opening it in google cache it works oddly enough.

Here is the link I used to get around it.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:28 am

Wallenburg wrote:
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Antifa isn't as organized as the alt right and definitely isn't as organized as ICE or CBP. Ideologically antifa and the alt right are morally equal but in practice the right wing extremists are worse

Being against fascism and being fascist are morally equal. Super cool my friend, very solid argument.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:31 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Antifa isn't as organized as the alt right and definitely isn't as organized as ICE or CBP. Ideologically antifa and the alt right are morally equal but in practice the right wing extremists are worse

Being against fascism and being fascist are morally equal. Super cool my friend, very solid argument.


Being a communist (as most antifas are, and I don't mean random antofascists, I mean the group known as antifa, or anti fascist action) and being a fascist are definitely equal. Saying antifa is just "being against fascism" is like saying rock against communism was just punk rockers not liking communists. Not only are they communists but they're also criminal thugs that destroy people's businesses, attack news reporters and set fires in our city streets.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:37 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Being against fascism and being fascist are morally equal. Super cool my friend, very solid argument.


Being a communist (as most antifas are, and I don't mean random antofascists, I mean the group known as antifa, or anti fascist action)

Antifa is a thing people do, not an organisation they join.
and being a fascist are definitely equal.

Bollocks.
Saying antifa is just "being against fascism" is-

Basically accurate.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:44 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Being a communist (as most antifas are, and I don't mean random antofascists, I mean the group known as antifa, or anti fascist action)

Antifa is a thing people do, not an organisation they join.
and being a fascist are definitely equal.

Bollocks.
Saying antifa is just "being against fascism" is-

Basically accurate.


Antifa as I'm referring to them is the group of black clad mask wearing baseball wielding anarchists and communists #1. #2 being communist and fascist are equal. Communism is responsible for the whole sale slaughter of millions worldwide and has spawned some of the worst regimes in mankind's history. #3 once again, you know exactly what I'm referring to and yet you keep up with the fallacy of "being antifa just means being antifascist, I don't know what you're talking about."

This is antifascism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism

This is antifa: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
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Postby Drongonia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:48 am

Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:48 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Antifa is a thing people do, not an organisation they join.

Bollocks.

Basically accurate.


Antifa as I'm referring to them is the group of black clad mask wearing baseball wielding anarchists and communists #1.

And you're wrong. Congratulations.
#2 being communist and fascist are equal. Communism is responsible for the whole sale slaughter of millions worldwide and has spawned some of the worst regimes in mankind's history.

Communism and fascism aren't equal, don't be ridiculous.
#3 once again, you know exactly what I'm referring to and yet you keep up with the fallacy of "being antifa just means being antifascist, I don't know what you're talking about."

I know what you're saying, but what you're saying is wrong, and moreover is being wrong in a harmful and dangerous way so I'm not going to indulge it.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:50 am

Drongonia wrote:Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.


There you have it. Throwing a milkshake at someone is worse terrorism than shooting up a church. :roll:
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:52 am

Drongonia wrote:Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.

Do you actually think that violence is always wrong?

If yes, maybe have a think about why the police carry weapons.

If no, then you haven't actually provided any criticism of the people you are calling domestic terrorists.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:52 am

Ifreann wrote:Communism and fascism aren't equal, don't be ridiculous.

In terms of pure ideology, perhaps not. Practically, though, without a doubt. Communist (or Socialist if you're being picky) regimes have caused untold suffering and misery and are almost always authoritarian dictatorships.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Antifa as I'm referring to them is the group of black clad mask wearing baseball wielding anarchists and communists #1.

And you're wrong. Congratulations.
#2 being communist and fascist are equal. Communism is responsible for the whole sale slaughter of millions worldwide and has spawned some of the worst regimes in mankind's history.

Communism and fascism aren't equal, don't be ridiculous.
#3 once again, you know exactly what I'm referring to and yet you keep up with the fallacy of "being antifa just means being antifascist, I don't know what you're talking about."

I know what you're saying, but what you're saying is wrong, and moreover is being wrong in a harmful and dangerous way so I'm not going to indulge it.


#1 you didn't even say why it's wrong. Nice argument
#2. 100 million people killed by communism worldwide and counting. Sounds pretty equal to me man
#3. And once again, you can't even argue why it's wrong. Miss me with your sarcasm if you won't even attempt to make your case as to why these thugs aren't as bad as the fascists they claim to fight against (half of which are actually random republicans, patriots prayer and news reporters).
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.

Do you actually think that violence is always wrong?

If yes, maybe have a think about why the police carry weapons.

If no, then you haven't actually provided any criticism of the people you are calling domestic terrorists.


Running at people and hitting them with a hammer because you don't agree with them is wrong. Violence in self defense is not wrong. Antifa is not engaged in self defense. I didn't see patriots prayer prowling the streets looking for antifa. I saw their last rally begin with them setting up shop in the park with American flags and some water bottles and ending with tear gas and pepper spray having to be used to disperse the black clad extremists that showed up to attack them
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:58 am

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Drongonia wrote:Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.


There you have it. Throwing a milkshake at someone is worse terrorism than shooting up a church. :roll:

As it happens today is the 8th anniversary of Anders Breivik murdering a load of children in the hopes of somehow defending his country from Muslim immigration and Cultural Marxists.

Clearly morally equivalent to getting in a fight with fascists.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Drongonia wrote:Good. They are domestic terrorists and this is long overdue. It isn't even a left v right issue at this point, it's violence v peace.


There you have it. Throwing a milkshake at someone is worse terrorism than shooting up a church. :roll:


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Antifa does more than throw milkshakes
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
There you have it. Throwing a milkshake at someone is worse terrorism than shooting up a church. :roll:

As it happens today is the 8th anniversary of Anders Breivik murdering a load of children in the hopes of somehow defending his country from Muslim immigration and Cultural Marxists.

Clearly morally equivalent to getting in a fight with fascists.

No one here is saying that. :roll: We are just saying you are not in the right.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:01 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
There you have it. Throwing a milkshake at someone is worse terrorism than shooting up a church. :roll:

As it happens today is the 8th anniversary of Anders Breivik murdering a load of children in the hopes of somehow defending his country from Muslim immigration and Cultural Marxists.

Clearly morally equivalent to getting in a fight with fascists.


Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:07 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:As it happens today is the 8th anniversary of Anders Breivik murdering a load of children in the hopes of somehow defending his country from Muslim immigration and Cultural Marxists.

Clearly morally equivalent to getting in a fight with fascists.


Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm


And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm


And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".

One guy who doxxed a protestor with spinal injury to neo-Nazis.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:12 am

Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm


And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".


They beat up (or attempt to) anyone they disagree with politically. I doubt if any one of them could even identify a real fascist if one bit them on the ass.

Of course, beating someone up (or attempting to) because they don't agree with your politics, is fascism.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:12 am

Gormwood wrote:
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And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".

One guy who doxxed a protestor with spinal injury to neo-Nazis.


One claims they were left with a brain haemorrhage that healed remarkably quickly when it came time to sob story it to FOX.

The other was left with actual life changing injuries after being beaten by the Proud Boys.

But clearly the former is the more heinous assault here.
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Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm


And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".

ANTIFA throwing molotov cocktails in Berkeley, California, perhaps?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Didn't know ganging up on and beating an Asian American journalist who is gay to the point of serious injury and hospitalization was fighting fascism. I always called it felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm


And yet he was OK enough to give interviews to FOX the next day after he'd already been discharged from hospital. Some serious injury.

Also it's interesting you always seem to default to the Ngo incident. If Antifa was such a massive domestic terrorist network you'd think there'd be more to work with than just "one guy got beaten up".


Did you not read the links I posted like three or four posts up? It isn't just one incident, these guys are freaking criminals and nothing more
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