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Postby Takiran » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:59 am

Cedoria wrote:'See kids, these days you don't even have to kill anyone to get labelled a terror group! Just show up to fight people who've killed a bunch more, then you'll be fine!'
Yeah no. I'll take these Senators 'anti-terrorism' shtick seriously when they go after the far more dangerous groups Antifa is combatting. They are backed by Congressional and institutional support, not to mention more or less outright being OKeyd by the current POTUS. Antifa basically has none of that, and isn't even an organisation besides.

Plus, friendly daily reminder that anybody who thinks Antifa and Fa are equivalent is an idiot. Thanks.

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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:59 am

Vassenor wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).


>Daily Caller

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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:59 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Highever wrote:Considering the majority favor staying in the UK or have an opinion other than joining ireland that doesnt appear to be the case.

Though that depends on how badly Westminster fucks them over regarding Brexit

True, that does seem to be the event that many are saying may lead to a major shift, though with howthings have been been historically I would say that more would still vote for outright independence over a union.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:00 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
>Daily Caller

:rofl:

Are they wrong?


>Injured Many People

>Killed Many People

Clearly these two things are equivalent.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 am

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You mind summarising that link rather than just blind-dumping a conservative scaremonger?

It's from "teaparty.org", who gives a shit what it says?
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 am

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Pacomia wrote:Who ever said anything about Donald Trump or Al Qaeda?


I smell deflection from their claims that Antifa committed actual treason.

Especially when they're pushing the debunked theory that the Sutherland Springs shooter was somehow a part of the "Antifa civil war".

You have said that Trump should be impeached yes? And I hope you agree that ISIS and the Taliban are groups that should be eradicated.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Highever wrote:Unless they're talking about the 1920's IRA which in that case makes very little sense.

No that is exactly who I support.

You mean the ones that where led by socialists?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I smell deflection from their claims that Antifa committed actual treason.

Especially when they're pushing the debunked theory that the Sutherland Springs shooter was somehow a part of the "Antifa civil war".

You have said that Trump should be impeached yes? And I hope you agree that ISIS and the Taliban are groups that should be eradicated.


When have I said anything about impeachment in this thread? And what does ISIS have to do with your claims that Antifa has committed treason?
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:01 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I smell deflection from their claims that Antifa committed actual treason.

Especially when they're pushing the debunked theory that the Sutherland Springs shooter was somehow a part of the "Antifa civil war".

You have said that Trump should be impeached yes? And I hope you agree that ISIS and the Taliban are groups that should be eradicated.


And Antifa is not equivalent to ISIS and the Taliban.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".

How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).

Advocating Trump's impeachment is not treason though.

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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Are they wrong?


>Injured Many People

>Killed Many People

Clearly these two things are equivalent.

Ok I am going to organize a far right wing fascist group and we are going to round up black people, trans people, homosexuals, etc. and beat them up. But oh we wont kill them, so it is ok.


Do you see the flaw m8?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).


>Daily Caller

:rofl:


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Wikipedia, eh? :roll:


Attacking the source and not the content. That's weak.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:02 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
>Injured Many People

>Killed Many People

Clearly these two things are equivalent.

Ok I am going to organize a far right wing fascist group and we are going to round up black people, trans people, homosexuals, etc. and beat them up. But oh we wont kill them, so it is ok.


Do you see the flaw m8?


So where is Antifa rounding up people?
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:03 am

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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:No that is exactly who I support.

You mean the ones that where led by socialists?

No the one that was led by Nationalists. Off topic.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:03 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Though that depends on how badly Westminster fucks them over regarding Brexit

True, that does seem to be the event that many are saying may lead to a major shift, though with howthings have been been historically I would say that more would still vote for outright independence over a union.

Nah full independence would mean they aren’t apart of the EU. Something they really really want. So the choice is pretty much stay in the UK or join the republic.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:03 am

Antifa by their own philosophy are terrorists by definition.

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:04 am

Salus Maior wrote:Antifa by their own philosophy are terrorists by definition.

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."


So you agree that the Proud Boys, Unite the Right and so on are terrorist organisations?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:04 am

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Salus Maior wrote:Antifa by their own philosophy are terrorists by definition.

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."


So you agree that the Proud Boys, Unite the Right and so on are terrorist organisations?


Unite the Right was an event, not an organization lol
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:05 am

Vassenor wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Antifa by their own philosophy are terrorists by definition.

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."


So you agree that the Proud Boys, Unite the Right and so on are terrorist organisations?


Sure, if they're using violence against civilians in pursuit of political aims.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:05 am

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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Ok I am going to organize a far right wing fascist group and we are going to round up black people, trans people, homosexuals, etc. and beat them up. But oh we wont kill them, so it is ok.


Do you see the flaw m8?


So where is Antifa rounding up people?

Oh I am sorry. They are indiscriminately attacking police officer, right wing speakers, conservative lobbyist, etc. Need links?

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/t ... by-police/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 6d59541de3
https://studybreaks.com/news-politics/a ... s-college/
And there are more.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:06 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I smell deflection from their claims that Antifa committed actual treason.

Especially when they're pushing the debunked theory that the Sutherland Springs shooter was somehow a part of the "Antifa civil war".

You have said that Trump should be impeached yes? And I hope you agree that ISIS and the Taliban are groups that should be eradicated.

What relevance does fucking ISIS, the Taliban, and Trump have to do with this conversation? Other than to deflect from your shitty views
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:06 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
>Daily Caller

:rofl:


Vassenor wrote:
Attacking the source and not the content. That's weak.

XD :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:06 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So where is Antifa rounding up people?

Oh I am sorry. They are indiscriminately attacking police officer, right wing speakers, conservative lobbyist, etc. Need links?

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/t ... by-police/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... 6d59541de3
https://studybreaks.com/news-politics/a ... s-college/
And there are more.


Still waiting for you to prove that they are levying war against the United States.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:07 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You mean the ones that where led by socialists?

No the one that was led by Nationalists. Off topic.

You can be both. The 1920s IRA was led by socialists.
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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:07 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You mean the ones that where led by socialists?

No the one that was led by Nationalists. Off topic.

Uh yeah, left wing nationalists. Sinn Fein even back then which was the majority of the Revolutionary Dail was left wing.
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