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Postby Pacomia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:46 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Pacomia wrote:I don’t think left-right politics had anything to do with it.

Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

So why don’t you just say you support Ireland annexing Northern Ireland/Ulster?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:47 am

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Pacomia wrote:I don’t think left-right politics had anything to do with it.

Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

Communist support? A lot of the IRA's funding came from the Irish community in America.
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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:47 am

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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:The IRA? I support Irish Independence. I do not support the car bombings and killing of civilians. I do support the conventional attacks that USED to occur before the IRA went left wing.

Dude the IRA has always been left wing.

Unless they're talking about the 1920's IRA which in that case makes very little sense.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:47 am

Pacomia wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

So why don’t you just say you support Ireland annexing Northern Ireland/Ulster?

I could. Didn't really think of that. Plus space.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 am

Highever wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Dude the IRA has always been left wing.

Unless they're talking about the 1920's IRA which in that case makes very little sense.

No that is exactly who I support.
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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Pacomia wrote:I don’t think left-right politics had anything to do with it.

Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

And the Northern Irish dont, so you are inevitably supporting terrorism to get them to be forced to join Ireland against their will and punish them for their disagreement. And yetyou denounce Antifa for doing the same thing.
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Postby Eastkilty » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 am

Ifreann wrote:Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.





Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC
Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists.


Counterprotesters and members of antifa and Blac Bloc rally on the east side of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building as the white supremacist Unite the Right rally is being held across from the White House August 12, 2018, in Washington, DC. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Sunday’s counterprotests against the white nationalist “Unite the Right 2” rally in Washington, DC, were largely peaceful. Thousands of people held multiple rallies across the city to celebrate diversity and push back against the hateful views the white nationalists espouse.
But a few left-wing “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) counterprotesters did engage in violence, throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at police officers and some journalists who were covering the demonstrations.
NPR reporter Tim Mak captured video of the scene:

Mak also narrowly missed getting hit with an egg himself:

Demonstrators also clashed with journalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, during an event marking the one-year anniversary of the killing of Heather Heyer by a Unite the Right participant at the first rally.
NBC News’s Cal Perry posted video of protesters shoving their hands into his camera, trying to cover the lens and asking him to stop filming:

A bit later, Perry posted another video of a protester shouting, “Fuck you, snitch-ass news bitch! Fuck you!” and aggressively swatting away Perry’s camera:

This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/1 ... -the-right


A Timeline Of Antifa Violence: January – August 2017

Groups of Antifa protesters have become increasingly violent over the past year, vandalizing and destroying property, and attacking those they perceive to be “fascists.” Members of Antifa, short for “anti-fascist,” share an amorphous ideology which loosely borrows ideas from a multitude of seemingly-contradictory ideologies, including Marxism, and anarchism.
In the first eight months of 2017, Antifa has rioted in dozens of cities across the United States, leaving a trail of burning rubble and broken people in their wake.
The following is a timeline of Antifa violence from January through August of this year:
January 20
On Inauguration Day, Antifa members rioted in downtown D.C., leading to the arrest of at least 217 people, according to CNN.
… black-clad "antifascist" protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk.
Six police officers were injured in the riots.
CNN reports that protests in New York, Portland, and Seattle also turned violent:
In New York, nine people were arrested for disorderly conduct, according to the New York Police Department. Authorities said five people were arrested at a protest in Dallas, six in Chicago.
In Portland, Oregon, protesters were armed with clubs, sticks and throwing unknown liquid at officers, according to the Portland Police Department. Six people were arrested in Portland Friday, Portland Police Sgt. Pete Simpson tells CNN.
In Seattle, people threw bricks and other items at officers during a demonstration on the the University of Washington campus, city police said.
In D.C., a limousine was vandalized and set on fire. The chauffeur limo belonged to Muslim immigrant, Muhammad Ashraf:

February 1
Prior to a planned speech by Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California at Berkeley, Antifa members and a coalition of “Black Bloc” rioters devastated the campus, causing approximately $100,000 in damages, according to CNN.
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held. At least six people were injured.
… The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO.

March 4
In Berkeley, California, a pro-Trump march was violently disrupted by Antifa rioters. According to The Washington Post:
A planned “March 4 Trump” demonstration held at the city’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park — several blocks from the University of California at Berkeley campus — escalated after fights broke out between those who had shown up for the event and counter-protesters. …
Other items, such as bricks and baseball bats, were confiscated as well.
The Los Angeles Times writes: “Berkeley Police Officer Byron White said 10 arrests were made: one for resisting arrest, four for assault with a deadly weapon, including a dagger, and five for battery. About seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.”

April 15
A Pro-Trump demonstration in Berkeley, California, was disrupted when black-clad protesters showed up.
According to CBS News:
Police in Berkeley, California, say 13 people have been arrested and knives and makeshift weapons confiscated after violence erupted at a park where factions that support and oppose President Trump gathered for Tax Day rallies.
...Officials say officers have confiscated knives, flagpoles, helmets and sticks with signs on them, things that were being used as weapons.

May 1
A May Day rally in Portland, Oregon, descended into chaos when the “anti-fascists” showed up, attacking police officers and setting fires.
NPR reports:
"Various fires were set in the street and in garbage cans, a police car was spray-painted and vandalized, and there were attempts to set at least one business on fire," according to Portland Police. "Numerous projectiles were thrown at or launched at police and firefighters including rocks, bottles, ball bearings, fireworks, smoke bombs, and road flares."
25 arrests were made. NPR adds that Portland wasn't the only city in the pacific north west marked by violence on May 1:
Police in Olympia, Wash., say they were confronted with a "mob" of masked and violent protesters who threw rocks and used slingshots to target officers. The situation settled down after officers used "crowd dispersal devices" and arrested several people.

Not going to copy all, but here's link: https://www.dailywire.com/news/20343/ti ... e-january-–-august-2017-frank-camp


Many reports of Antifa beating up an old man with a crowbar on approx. the 6th of June (I don't know the exact date). Look up: Antifa beating up old man

And hopefully you've heard of Andy Ngo's attack.

Antifa Mob Viciously Assaults Journalist Andy Ngo at Portland Rally
Masked activists attacked the Quillette editor with fists and milkshakes, sending him to the emergency room.
Andy Ngo, a photojournalist and editor at Quillette, landed in the emergency room after a mob of antifa activists attacked him on the streets of Portland during a Saturday afternoon demonstration.
The assailants wore black clothing and masks, and were engaged in a counter-protest against several right-wing groups, including the Proud Boys. Ngo is a well-known chronicler of antifa activity, and has criticized their illiberal tactics on Fox News. He attended the protest in this capacity—as a journalist, covering a notable public event.
According to Ngo, his attacker stole his camera equipment. But video footage recorded by another journalist, The Oregonian's Jim Ryan, clearly shows an antifa activist punching Ngo in the face. Others throw milkshakes at him:

https://reason.com/2019/06/29/antifa-an ... -violence/

He was apparently diagnosed with a brain hemorrhage due to the attack.


Antifa Violently Attacks Police, Trump Supporters At Free Speech Rally in DC
Far-left vowed to bring violence at 'Demand Free Speech' event despite heavy police presence

Conservatives from all over have gathered in Washington D.C. Saturday to demonstrate in support of free speech, but far-left Antifa terrorists have vowed to bring violence against them.
The “Demand Free Speech” rally, which featured a who’s-who of conservative speakers like Milo Yiannopoulos, Roger Stone, Jack Posobiec, and others, is taking place at Freedom Plaza just blocks from the White House, and the police established a heavy presence in anticipation of far-left violence.
Various tweets from people at the event, like Julio Rosas and Jack Posobiec:


A Latina Trump supporter is being blocked by a white Bernie supporter near the #DemandFreeSpeech rally.
Antifa attacks guy in a MAGA hat by trying to take his camera and throwing a water bottle at him. #AllOutDC
Antifa black bloc getting large, confronting police
This was given to me after I was blocked from entering the #AllOutDC rally because they want "safe space."
Antifa tried to rush to the #DemandFreeSpeech rally side but were pushed back by police.
Antifa gets into a scuffle with police. #AllOutDC
Scuffle breaks out after an antifa member steals a MAGA hat from a Asian Trump supporter. #AllOutDC
Antifa is now pulling newstands into the street, including a @dcexaminer stand.
I asked #AllOutDC people if they saw the irony in keeping a Mexican reporter out of an event that was marketed as being inclusive.

They didn't respond.


Antifa arriving in masks and helmets now, with full backpacks
This infovidual was just turned away from Demand Free Speech rally as he tried to get close to the stage with a black briefcase
After @JoeySalads left, one antifa supporter threatened him, saying very specifically that he’d “whoop” him tonight, and that he’d force Joey to “fight back” so they’d “both go to jail.”
Antifa protesters dressed in all black (a tactic called black bloc) holding the intersection of 12th & F, back near the #AllOutDC counter-protest.
#antifa causing even more destruction. Why would they destroy their own city?

You get the point. (at: https://www.newswars.com/watch-live-dem ... -violence/)


So, is this Trump just 'trying to ban dissent', or trying to protect America from an extremely violent extremist group?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:48 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Highever wrote:Unless they're talking about the 1920's IRA which in that case makes very little sense.

No that is exactly who I support.

The 1920s IRA was pretty left wing as well.
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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:49 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Highever wrote:Unless they're talking about the 1920's IRA which in that case makes very little sense.

No that is exactly who I support.

They have exactly 0.0% relevance in the modern day NI-Ireland issue.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:49 am

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Pacomia wrote:I don’t think left-right politics had anything to do with it.

Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

I too think NI is rightfully Irish but the IRA can feck off

Also the IRA has always been left wing and brutal. Getting funding from Gaddafi’s Libya, which was socialist not bloody communist, didn’t make them more brutal
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Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:49 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
That's what makes this a transparent attempt to ban protests.

:lol2:

Idk, she might have a point
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:50 am

Eastkilty wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.





Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC
Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists.


Counterprotesters and members of antifa and Blac Bloc rally on the east side of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building as the white supremacist Unite the Right rally is being held across from the White House August 12, 2018, in Washington, DC. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Sunday’s counterprotests against the white nationalist “Unite the Right 2” rally in Washington, DC, were largely peaceful. Thousands of people held multiple rallies across the city to celebrate diversity and push back against the hateful views the white nationalists espouse.
But a few left-wing “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) counterprotesters did engage in violence, throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at police officers and some journalists who were covering the demonstrations.
NPR reporter Tim Mak captured video of the scene:

Mak also narrowly missed getting hit with an egg himself:

Demonstrators also clashed with journalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, during an event marking the one-year anniversary of the killing of Heather Heyer by a Unite the Right participant at the first rally.
NBC News’s Cal Perry posted video of protesters shoving their hands into his camera, trying to cover the lens and asking him to stop filming:

A bit later, Perry posted another video of a protester shouting, “Fuck you, snitch-ass news bitch! Fuck you!” and aggressively swatting away Perry’s camera:

This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/1 ... -the-right


A Timeline Of Antifa Violence: January – August 2017

Groups of Antifa protesters have become increasingly violent over the past year, vandalizing and destroying property, and attacking those they perceive to be “fascists.” Members of Antifa, short for “anti-fascist,” share an amorphous ideology which loosely borrows ideas from a multitude of seemingly-contradictory ideologies, including Marxism, and anarchism.
In the first eight months of 2017, Antifa has rioted in dozens of cities across the United States, leaving a trail of burning rubble and broken people in their wake.
The following is a timeline of Antifa violence from January through August of this year:
January 20
On Inauguration Day, Antifa members rioted in downtown D.C., leading to the arrest of at least 217 people, according to CNN.
… black-clad "antifascist" protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk.
Six police officers were injured in the riots.
CNN reports that protests in New York, Portland, and Seattle also turned violent:
In New York, nine people were arrested for disorderly conduct, according to the New York Police Department. Authorities said five people were arrested at a protest in Dallas, six in Chicago.
In Portland, Oregon, protesters were armed with clubs, sticks and throwing unknown liquid at officers, according to the Portland Police Department. Six people were arrested in Portland Friday, Portland Police Sgt. Pete Simpson tells CNN.
In Seattle, people threw bricks and other items at officers during a demonstration on the the University of Washington campus, city police said.
In D.C., a limousine was vandalized and set on fire. The chauffeur limo belonged to Muslim immigrant, Muhammad Ashraf:

February 1
Prior to a planned speech by Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California at Berkeley, Antifa members and a coalition of “Black Bloc” rioters devastated the campus, causing approximately $100,000 in damages, according to CNN.
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held. At least six people were injured.
… The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO.

March 4
In Berkeley, California, a pro-Trump march was violently disrupted by Antifa rioters. According to The Washington Post:
A planned “March 4 Trump” demonstration held at the city’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park — several blocks from the University of California at Berkeley campus — escalated after fights broke out between those who had shown up for the event and counter-protesters. …
Other items, such as bricks and baseball bats, were confiscated as well.
The Los Angeles Times writes: “Berkeley Police Officer Byron White said 10 arrests were made: one for resisting arrest, four for assault with a deadly weapon, including a dagger, and five for battery. About seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.”

April 15
A Pro-Trump demonstration in Berkeley, California, was disrupted when black-clad protesters showed up.
According to CBS News:
Police in Berkeley, California, say 13 people have been arrested and knives and makeshift weapons confiscated after violence erupted at a park where factions that support and oppose President Trump gathered for Tax Day rallies.
...Officials say officers have confiscated knives, flagpoles, helmets and sticks with signs on them, things that were being used as weapons.

May 1
A May Day rally in Portland, Oregon, descended into chaos when the “anti-fascists” showed up, attacking police officers and setting fires.
NPR reports:
"Various fires were set in the street and in garbage cans, a police car was spray-painted and vandalized, and there were attempts to set at least one business on fire," according to Portland Police. "Numerous projectiles were thrown at or launched at police and firefighters including rocks, bottles, ball bearings, fireworks, smoke bombs, and road flares."
25 arrests were made. NPR adds that Portland wasn't the only city in the pacific north west marked by violence on May 1:
Police in Olympia, Wash., say they were confronted with a "mob" of masked and violent protesters who threw rocks and used slingshots to target officers. The situation settled down after officers used "crowd dispersal devices" and arrested several people.

Not going to copy all, but here's link: https://www.dailywire.com/news/20343/ti ... e-january-–-august-2017-frank-camp


Many reports of Antifa beating up an old man with a crowbar on approx. the 6th of June (I don't know the exact date). Look up: Antifa beating up old man

And hopefully you've heard of Andy Ngo's attack.

Antifa Mob Viciously Assaults Journalist Andy Ngo at Portland Rally
Masked activists attacked the Quillette editor with fists and milkshakes, sending him to the emergency room.
Andy Ngo, a photojournalist and editor at Quillette, landed in the emergency room after a mob of antifa activists attacked him on the streets of Portland during a Saturday afternoon demonstration.
The assailants wore black clothing and masks, and were engaged in a counter-protest against several right-wing groups, including the Proud Boys. Ngo is a well-known chronicler of antifa activity, and has criticized their illiberal tactics on Fox News. He attended the protest in this capacity—as a journalist, covering a notable public event.
According to Ngo, his attacker stole his camera equipment. But video footage recorded by another journalist, The Oregonian's Jim Ryan, clearly shows an antifa activist punching Ngo in the face. Others throw milkshakes at him:

https://reason.com/2019/06/29/antifa-an ... -violence/

He was apparnelty diagnosed with a brain hemorrhage due to the attack.


Antifa Violently Attacks Police, Trump Supporters At Free Speech Rally in DC
Far-left vowed to bring violence at 'Demand Free Speech' event despite heavy police presence

Conservatives from all over have gathered in Washington D.C. Saturday to demonstrate in support of free speech, but far-left Antifa terrorists have vowed to bring violence against them.
The “Demand Free Speech” rally, which featured a who’s-who of conservative speakers like Milo Yiannopoulos, Roger Stone, Jack Posobiec, and others, is taking place at Freedom Plaza just blocks from the White House, and the police established a heavy presence in anticipation of far-left violence.
Various tweets from people at the event, like Julio Rosas and Jack Posobiec:


A Latina Trump supporter is being blocked by a white Bernie supporter near the #DemandFreeSpeech rally.
Antifa attacks guy in a MAGA hat by trying to take his camera and throwing a water bottle at him. #AllOutDC
Antifa black bloc getting large, confronting police
This was given to me after I was blocked from entering the #AllOutDC rally because they want "safe space."
Antifa tried to rush to the #DemandFreeSpeech rally side but were pushed back by police.
Antifa gets into a scuffle with police. #AllOutDC
Scuffle breaks out after an antifa member steals a MAGA hat from a Asian Trump supporter. #AllOutDC
Antifa is now pulling newstands into the street, including a @dcexaminer stand.
I asked #AllOutDC people if they saw the irony in keeping a Mexican reporter out of an event that was marketed as being inclusive.

They didn't respond.


Antifa arriving in masks and helmets now, with full backpacks
This infovidual was just turned away from Demand Free Speech rally as he tried to get close to the stage with a black briefcase
After @JoeySalads left, one antifa supporter threatened him, saying very specifically that he’d “whoop” him tonight, and that he’d force Joey to “fight back” so they’d “both go to jail.”
Antifa protesters dressed in all black (a tactic called black bloc) holding the intersection of 12th & F, back near the #AllOutDC counter-protest.
#antifa causing even more destruction. Why would they destroy their own city?

You get the point. (at: https://www.newswars.com/watch-live-dem ... -violence/)


So, is this Trump just 'trying to ban dissent', or trying to protect America from an extremely violent extremist group?


So why aren't they trying to protect America from the violent extremist group that's actually killed people?
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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Well it so happens when the IRA got communist support they got more brutal. Anyways we are getting off topic. Let me clarify again I do NOT support the unwarranted killing of innocent Irish and British civilians by the Irish Republican Army. I am only in support of the IRA because I believe Northern Ireland is rightfully Irish.

And the Northern Irish dont, so you are inevitably supporting terrorism to get them to be forced to join Ireland against their will and punish them for their disagreement. And yetyou denounce Antifa for doing the same thing.

I am a Irish Citizen. My mother was born in Belfast. I have lived in Newtownyards. Many people don't, you are right, but a lot do.
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No, it's advocating deporting people for their political views.

Funny. Antifa supports killing people for the political views.

Check mate


[citation needed]

Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".
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Vassenor wrote:Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".

Why do you keep asking that?
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Antifa clashes with police and journalists in Charlottesville and DC
Antifa says it fights fascists and neo-Nazis. But this weekend, members attacked cops and journalists.


Counterprotesters and members of antifa and Blac Bloc rally on the east side of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building as the white supremacist Unite the Right rally is being held across from the White House August 12, 2018, in Washington, DC. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Sunday’s counterprotests against the white nationalist “Unite the Right 2” rally in Washington, DC, were largely peaceful. Thousands of people held multiple rallies across the city to celebrate diversity and push back against the hateful views the white nationalists espouse.
But a few left-wing “antifa” (short for “anti-fascist”) counterprotesters did engage in violence, throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at police officers and some journalists who were covering the demonstrations.
NPR reporter Tim Mak captured video of the scene:

Mak also narrowly missed getting hit with an egg himself:

Demonstrators also clashed with journalists in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday, during an event marking the one-year anniversary of the killing of Heather Heyer by a Unite the Right participant at the first rally.
NBC News’s Cal Perry posted video of protesters shoving their hands into his camera, trying to cover the lens and asking him to stop filming:

A bit later, Perry posted another video of a protester shouting, “Fuck you, snitch-ass news bitch! Fuck you!” and aggressively swatting away Perry’s camera:

This is not the first time antifa protesters have been violent. In August 2017, about 100 anarchists and antifa members assaulted far-right demonstrators who were marching peacefully in Berkeley, California, with pepper spray, water bottles, and direct physical assault.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/8/1 ... -the-right


A Timeline Of Antifa Violence: January – August 2017

Groups of Antifa protesters have become increasingly violent over the past year, vandalizing and destroying property, and attacking those they perceive to be “fascists.” Members of Antifa, short for “anti-fascist,” share an amorphous ideology which loosely borrows ideas from a multitude of seemingly-contradictory ideologies, including Marxism, and anarchism.
In the first eight months of 2017, Antifa has rioted in dozens of cities across the United States, leaving a trail of burning rubble and broken people in their wake.
The following is a timeline of Antifa violence from January through August of this year:
January 20
On Inauguration Day, Antifa members rioted in downtown D.C., leading to the arrest of at least 217 people, according to CNN.
… black-clad "antifascist" protesters smashed storefronts and bus stops, hammered out the windows of a limousine and eventually launched rocks at a phalanx of police lined up in an eastbound crosswalk.
Six police officers were injured in the riots.
CNN reports that protests in New York, Portland, and Seattle also turned violent:
In New York, nine people were arrested for disorderly conduct, according to the New York Police Department. Authorities said five people were arrested at a protest in Dallas, six in Chicago.
In Portland, Oregon, protesters were armed with clubs, sticks and throwing unknown liquid at officers, according to the Portland Police Department. Six people were arrested in Portland Friday, Portland Police Sgt. Pete Simpson tells CNN.
In Seattle, people threw bricks and other items at officers during a demonstration on the the University of Washington campus, city police said.
In D.C., a limousine was vandalized and set on fire. The chauffeur limo belonged to Muslim immigrant, Muhammad Ashraf:

February 1
Prior to a planned speech by Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California at Berkeley, Antifa members and a coalition of “Black Bloc” rioters devastated the campus, causing approximately $100,000 in damages, according to CNN.
Black-clad protesters wearing masks threw commercial-grade fireworks and rocks at police. Some even hurled Molotov cocktails that ignited fires. They also smashed windows of the student union center on the Berkeley campus where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held. At least six people were injured.
… The violent protesters tore down metal barriers, set fires near the campus bookstore and damaged the construction site of a new dorm. One woman wearing a red Trump hat was pepper sprayed in the face while being interviewed by CNN affiliate KGO.

March 4
In Berkeley, California, a pro-Trump march was violently disrupted by Antifa rioters. According to The Washington Post:
A planned “March 4 Trump” demonstration held at the city’s Martin Luther King Jr. Civic Center Park — several blocks from the University of California at Berkeley campus — escalated after fights broke out between those who had shown up for the event and counter-protesters. …
Other items, such as bricks and baseball bats, were confiscated as well.
The Los Angeles Times writes: “Berkeley Police Officer Byron White said 10 arrests were made: one for resisting arrest, four for assault with a deadly weapon, including a dagger, and five for battery. About seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.”

April 15
A Pro-Trump demonstration in Berkeley, California, was disrupted when black-clad protesters showed up.
According to CBS News:
Police in Berkeley, California, say 13 people have been arrested and knives and makeshift weapons confiscated after violence erupted at a park where factions that support and oppose President Trump gathered for Tax Day rallies.
...Officials say officers have confiscated knives, flagpoles, helmets and sticks with signs on them, things that were being used as weapons.

May 1
A May Day rally in Portland, Oregon, descended into chaos when the “anti-fascists” showed up, attacking police officers and setting fires.
NPR reports:
"Various fires were set in the street and in garbage cans, a police car was spray-painted and vandalized, and there were attempts to set at least one business on fire," according to Portland Police. "Numerous projectiles were thrown at or launched at police and firefighters including rocks, bottles, ball bearings, fireworks, smoke bombs, and road flares."
25 arrests were made. NPR adds that Portland wasn't the only city in the pacific north west marked by violence on May 1:
Police in Olympia, Wash., say they were confronted with a "mob" of masked and violent protesters who threw rocks and used slingshots to target officers. The situation settled down after officers used "crowd dispersal devices" and arrested several people.

Not going to copy all, but here's link: https://www.dailywire.com/news/20343/ti ... e-january-–-august-2017-frank-camp


Many reports of Antifa beating up an old man with a crowbar on approx. the 6th of June (I don't know the exact date). Look up: Antifa beating up old man

And hopefully you've heard of Andy Ngo's attack.

Antifa Mob Viciously Assaults Journalist Andy Ngo at Portland Rally
Masked activists attacked the Quillette editor with fists and milkshakes, sending him to the emergency room.
Andy Ngo, a photojournalist and editor at Quillette, landed in the emergency room after a mob of antifa activists attacked him on the streets of Portland during a Saturday afternoon demonstration.
The assailants wore black clothing and masks, and were engaged in a counter-protest against several right-wing groups, including the Proud Boys. Ngo is a well-known chronicler of antifa activity, and has criticized their illiberal tactics on Fox News. He attended the protest in this capacity—as a journalist, covering a notable public event.
According to Ngo, his attacker stole his camera equipment. But video footage recorded by another journalist, The Oregonian's Jim Ryan, clearly shows an antifa activist punching Ngo in the face. Others throw milkshakes at him:

https://reason.com/2019/06/29/antifa-an ... -violence/

He was apparnelty diagnosed with a brain hemorrhage due to the attack.


Antifa Violently Attacks Police, Trump Supporters At Free Speech Rally in DC
Far-left vowed to bring violence at 'Demand Free Speech' event despite heavy police presence

Conservatives from all over have gathered in Washington D.C. Saturday to demonstrate in support of free speech, but far-left Antifa terrorists have vowed to bring violence against them.
The “Demand Free Speech” rally, which featured a who’s-who of conservative speakers like Milo Yiannopoulos, Roger Stone, Jack Posobiec, and others, is taking place at Freedom Plaza just blocks from the White House, and the police established a heavy presence in anticipation of far-left violence.
Various tweets from people at the event, like Julio Rosas and Jack Posobiec:


A Latina Trump supporter is being blocked by a white Bernie supporter near the #DemandFreeSpeech rally.
Antifa attacks guy in a MAGA hat by trying to take his camera and throwing a water bottle at him. #AllOutDC
Antifa black bloc getting large, confronting police
This was given to me after I was blocked from entering the #AllOutDC rally because they want "safe space."
Antifa tried to rush to the #DemandFreeSpeech rally side but were pushed back by police.
Antifa gets into a scuffle with police. #AllOutDC
Scuffle breaks out after an antifa member steals a MAGA hat from a Asian Trump supporter. #AllOutDC
Antifa is now pulling newstands into the street, including a @dcexaminer stand.
I asked #AllOutDC people if they saw the irony in keeping a Mexican reporter out of an event that was marketed as being inclusive.

They didn't respond.


Antifa arriving in masks and helmets now, with full backpacks
This infovidual was just turned away from Demand Free Speech rally as he tried to get close to the stage with a black briefcase
After @JoeySalads left, one antifa supporter threatened him, saying very specifically that he’d “whoop” him tonight, and that he’d force Joey to “fight back” so they’d “both go to jail.”
Antifa protesters dressed in all black (a tactic called black bloc) holding the intersection of 12th & F, back near the #AllOutDC counter-protest.
#antifa causing even more destruction. Why would they destroy their own city?

You get the point. (at: https://www.newswars.com/watch-live-dem ... -violence/)


So, is this Trump just 'trying to ban dissent', or trying to protect America from an extremely violent extremist group?


So why aren't they trying to protect America from the violent extremist group that's actually killed people?

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Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:53 am

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Highever wrote:And the Northern Irish dont, so you are inevitably supporting terrorism to get them to be forced to join Ireland against their will and punish them for their disagreement. And yetyou denounce Antifa for doing the same thing.

I am a Irish Citizen. My mother was born in Belfast. I have lived in Newtownyards. Many people don't, you are right, but a lot do.

Considering the majority favor staying in the UK or have an opinion other than joining ireland that doesnt appear to be the case.
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Wallenburg wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:They need to be proscribed, as their views and antics represent a threat to the security and well being of the nation. Ideally, if I was in power, I'd deploy the National Guard to suppress and arrest their membership, in particular their leadership cadres. Same goes for any third party funders, coupled with the shutting down of all affiliated organizations, websites, social groupings, etc.

+1 person who doesn't know jack shit about antifa. It isn't a fucking organization, it doesn't have membership rolls or leaders.

If instead you mean anyone who practices or supports antifascist action or speech, then you're really fucking letting your power level show buddy. Try at least pretending you care about freedom of speech like the rest of your buddies.

I wonder if it says something that right wingers, especially the more authoritarians ones, can't seem to conceive of their chosen enemy not operating as connected hierarchical organisations with secret funding from billionaires, like their own groups.


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Ifreann wrote:Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.

...
So, is this Trump just 'trying to ban dissent', or trying to protect America from an extremely violent extremist group?

Just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.
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So why aren't they trying to protect America from the violent extremist group that's actually killed people?

https://www.teaparty.org/breaking-antif ... es-260813/


You mind summarising that link rather than just blind-dumping a conservative scaremonger?
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Postby Pacomia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:55 am

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Vassenor wrote:
So why aren't they trying to protect America from the violent extremist group that's actually killed people?

https://www.teaparty.org/breaking-antif ... es-260813/

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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Funny. Antifa supports killing people for the political views.

Check mate


[citation needed]

Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".

How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).
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[citation needed]

Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".

How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).


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Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Also still waiting for you to explain how their actions constitute "levying war against the United States".

How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).

Who ever said anything about Donald Trump or Al Qaeda?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:58 am

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Israeli Commonwealth wrote:I am a Irish Citizen. My mother was born in Belfast. I have lived in Newtownyards. Many people don't, you are right, but a lot do.

Considering the majority favor staying in the UK or have an opinion other than joining ireland that doesnt appear to be the case.

Though that depends on how badly Westminster fucks them over regarding Brexit
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Pacomia wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:How does Donald Trump's actions constitute impeachment? Also how does Al Quada's actions constitute that. If they are an organized criminal organization that is anti American (https://youtu.be/iwHIULAN4I0), that has injured many people (https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/01/kerns-antifa-terror/), that has FIRED ON POLICE OFFICERS (https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/antifa ... z5uK9q5OBK).

Who ever said anything about Donald Trump or Al Qaeda?


I smell deflection from their claims that Antifa committed actual treason.

Especially when they're pushing the debunked theory that the Sutherland Springs shooter was somehow a part of the "Antifa civil war".
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