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Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

Leninist Haven wrote:

Chernoslavia wrote:
Sure if by violent you mean willing to defend yourself against communist attacks.

I think that they mean that the group: Has a strange fascination with recreating the assassinations of socialist leaders, is known to wear shirts praising Pinochet's genocides of leftists, and have had violence break out in many of the places that they went. According to the New York Times, at an appearance at the "2018 Metropolitan Republican Club," they seem to have started a violent fight with counter-protesters (and apparently, this is backed up by 3 different camera sources). They also told a mayor that "his days were numbered, they're coming for him," which is very obviously a threat of political violence (though a threat nonetheless). There are more than a few examples that make the group's desire to have violence quite worrisome, at least to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Cossack Khanate wrote:Disclaimer: I only read the OP

Frankly, antifa is turning into a domestic terrorist organization. There is nothing political behind this. Whether you are conservative or liberal, hell even if you are anti-fascist or fascist, you can agree that antifa has gone too far too many times in the past, and has disrespected the keepers of the peace.

Unless you are fine with the use of violence to achieve leftist change, then there is no way you can support Antifa’s actions.

Vassenor wrote:

Cossack Khanate wrote:Disclaimer: I only read the OP

Frankly, antifa is turning into a domestic terrorist organization. There is nothing political behind this. Whether you are conservative or liberal, hell even if you are anti-fascist or fascist, you can agree that antifa has gone too far too many times in the past, and has disrespected the keepers of the peace.

Unless you are fine with the use of violence to achieve leftist change, then there is no way you can support Antifa’s actions.

Remember, throwing milkshakes at people is the worst terrorism possible.

Risottia wrote:

Tristian wrote:Apparently not.

I am, because I am a veteran.
If you say I ain't, you are disrespecting a veteran.

Galloism wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Remember, throwing milkshakes at people is the worst terrorism possible.

I mean, classifying them next to isis is ridiculous, but they have put people in the hospital.

Galborea wrote:

Galloism wrote:I mean, classifying them next to isis is ridiculous, but they have put people in the hospital.

Ngo was out within a day giving interviews to Fox News. People with mono have it worse.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Risottia wrote:I am, because I am a veteran.
If you say I ain't, you are disrespecting a veteran.

Typically that rule applies to veterans of your own nation and little more. You, being Italian, don't warrant any inherent respect from Americans who believe their veterans should be respected.

Vassenor wrote:

Galborea wrote:Ngo was out within a day giving interviews to Fox News. People with mono have it worse.

But he totally had a brain haemorrhage. He said so and everything.

Galborea wrote:

Galloism wrote:I mean, classifying them next to isis is ridiculous, but they have put people in the hospital.

Ngo was out within a day giving interviews to Fox News. People with mono have it worse.

Vassenor wrote:

Cossack Khanate wrote:Disclaimer: I only read the OP

Frankly, antifa is turning into a domestic terrorist organization. There is nothing political behind this. Whether you are conservative or liberal, hell even if you are anti-fascist or fascist, you can agree that antifa has gone too far too many times in the past, and has disrespected the keepers of the peace.

Unless you are fine with the use of violence to achieve leftist change, then there is no way you can support Antifa’s actions.

Remember, throwing milkshakes at people is the worst terrorism possible.

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-senators-want-antifa-activists-to-be-labeled-domestic-terrorists-heres-what-that-means/ar-AAECtvK?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=spartanntp

Two Republican senators have introduced a nonbinding resolution that would label antifascists — known as antifa — as “domestic terrorists,” doubling down against radical activists who have drawn criticism from conservatives and President Trump.

“Antifa are terrorists, violent masked bullies who ‘fight fascism’ with actual fascism, protected by Liberal privilege,” Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said in a statement. “Bullies get their way until someone says no. Elected officials must have courage, not cowardice, to prevent terror.”

Hina Shamsi, director of the national security project at the American Civil Liberties Union, told The Washington Post that she opposes labeling groups as domestic terrorists. “It is dangerous and overly broad to use labels that are disconnected [from] actual individual conduct,” she said. “And as we’ve seen how ‘terrorism’ has been used already in this country, any such scheme raises significant due process, equal protection and First Amendment constitutional concerns.”

Designating a group as a domestic terrorist organization expands law enforcement’s ability to investigate it. The label also means that police can not only investigate a specific suspect, but also look into groups that person affiliates with, Neal Katyal, a Georgetown University law professor and former national security adviser, told NPR.

Similar concerns may be the reason the federal government does not make public an official list of domestic terrorist groups, Jerome Bjelopera, a specialist in organized crime and terrorism, wrote in a Congressional Research Service report. The government does include domestic and international terrorists on its terrorist watch list, Bjelopera wrote.

So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

Galborea wrote:Since "antifa" is not one big organization this gives chuds the ability to label anyone they find "dangerous" (i.e. milkshake throwers) antifa and prosecute them.

Vassenor wrote:

Galborea wrote:Ngo was out within a day giving interviews to Fox News. People with mono have it worse.

But he totally had a brain haemorrhage. He said so and everything.

Galloism wrote:

Galborea wrote:Ngo was out within a day giving interviews to Fox News. People with mono have it worse.

Just a little bleeding into the brain. No big deal.

They also attacked Taylor Lorenz, another reporter.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... proud-boys

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:

Galloism wrote:Just a little bleeding into the brain. No big deal.

They also attacked Taylor Lorenz, another reporter.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... proud-boys

There was also Paul Welch, who did literally nothing wrong and was basically sucking Antifa's dick until they pulled a Keemstar vs Pyrocynical on him and beat him and gave him a concussion.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/201 ... ag_to.html

Galloism wrote:

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:There was also Paul Welch, who did literally nothing wrong and was basically sucking Antifa's dick until they pulled a Keemstar vs Pyrocynical on him and beat him and gave him a concussion.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/201 ... ag_to.html

Beaten for carrying an American flag. Unbelievable.

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-senators-want-antifa-activists-to-be-labeled-domestic-terrorists-heres-what-that-means/ar-AAECtvK?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=spartanntp







So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

I completely agree. To me they are far left terrorists, and should be treated as such. They are traitors to my country and in the United States, treason is punishable by death.

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:

Galloism wrote:Beaten for carrying an American flag. Unbelievable.

Yeah. Here is my belief...
If you don't like the best country on Earth, the United States of America, then fucking leave faggot.

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:

Galloism wrote:Beaten for carrying an American flag. Unbelievable.

Yeah. Here is my belief...
If you don't like the best country on Earth, the United States of America, then fucking leave faggot.

Vassenor wrote:

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:I completely agree. To me they are far left terrorists, and should be treated as such. They are traitors to my country and in the United States, treason is punishable by death.

So how does throwing milkshakes at people equal levying war against the United States?

Vassenor wrote:

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:I completely agree. To me they are far left terrorists, and should be treated as such. They are traitors to my country and in the United States, treason is punishable by death.

So how does throwing milkshakes at people equal levying war against the United States?