Two Senators want Antifa labled domestic terrorists

[Torrocca]

If "political violence" is your definition of terrorism, then congratulations, you've just named every government and every governmental organization that commits some form of violence or another a terrorist organization.

Who said the government can't be terrorists? Terror states exist worldwide

Famalam, you're telling me, an Anarchist, that. Lol.

My point is that NC's yoinking a definition out of his ass that he himself doesn't actually agree with if he bothered thinking about it for more than a quarter of a second.

[Vassenor]

People throwing milkshakes are a far greater threat than people driving cars into counter-protest groups and shooting up churches.

kek.

I didn't know milo yiannopolis did all that.

Or that corner store antifa smashed all the Windows on. Or the garbage cans they lit on fire. Or the car Windows they broke out. You keep saying people throwing milkshakes when antifa does far more than throw milkshakes, including hitting people with bike locks. They aren't a bunch of peaceful left wing anti hate flower children. They're thugs

Who said anything about Milo?

[Telconi]

But don't you see, they're thugs who hurt people Vassenor hates!

You can literally be assaulted by antifa just for filming them when they riot (and not being one of them). If they see a person who isn't one of their own filming them vandalizing people's cars, they will often try to attack the camerman/camerawoman. They're thugs. I can't believe anyone would think they aren't

People with unthinkable beliefs are everywhere, you get used to it eventually.

[Torrocca]

If "political violence" is your definition of terrorism, then congratulations, you've just named every government and every governmental organization that commits some form of violence or another a terrorist organization.

I'm sure you're totally happy with deeming ICE and the CBP as terrorist organizations.



Rose City AntiFA committed 9/11?

It's the only qualification needed to classify an organization as terroristic.

Only if you don't actually know the definition of terrorism, which you just made abundantly clear that you don't know.

It's not my fault such facts irritate you.

"""Facts.""" Lol. Sorry, chief, but ass-pulled definitions aren't actually facts.

[Nova Cyberia]

Who said the government can't be terrorists? Terror states exist worldwide

Famalam, you're telling me, an Anarchist, that. Lol.

My point is that NC's yoinking a definition out of his ass that he himself doesn't actually agree with if he bothered thinking about it for more than a quarter of a second.

I've given it more thought than you, I'd say.

[The South Falls]

Distinct groups of antifa are the ones with thebike locks, some of antifa is distinctly online, others are merely peaceful protestors who demonstrate against fascists.

Refuse Fascism: not terrorists, peaceful protesters, a-ok with them demonstrating

Rose City Antifa: violent, usually damaging property somewhere, prone to inciting riots

See the difference?

Yes. Infiltration and proactive dealings with rose city should be pursued. Just not surveillance of individual members, as I've already stated.

[Nova Cyberia]

It's the only qualification needed to classify an organization as terroristic.

Only if you don't actually know the definition of terrorism, which you just made abundantly clear that you don't know.

Would you care to define it? Even more bonus points if you don't scramble to Google it.

It's not my fault such facts irritate you.

"""Facts.""" Lol. Sorry, chief, but ass-pulled definitions aren't actually facts.

Oh, but they are. It isn't really my fault you like certain terrorists more than others just because they agree with you politically.

[Rojava Free State]

I didn't know milo yiannopolis did all that.

Or that corner store antifa smashed all the Windows on. Or the garbage cans they lit on fire. Or the car Windows they broke out. You keep saying people throwing milkshakes when antifa does far more than throw milkshakes, including hitting people with bike locks. They aren't a bunch of peaceful left wing anti hate flower children. They're thugs

Who said anything about Milo?

Well you pointed out the right wing terrorists shooting churches up and running people down in their cars. It seems to me you're suggesting that antifa ought to exist to protect us from those guys, except they don't usually attack those kinds of folks anyhow. The people they tend to assault aren't acting violent for the most part (except for the proud boys which is basically the right wing equivalent of antifa)

[Torrocca]

Famalam, you're telling me, an Anarchist, that. Lol.

My point is that NC's yoinking a definition out of his ass that he himself doesn't actually agree with if he bothered thinking about it for more than a quarter of a second.

I've given it more thought than you, I'd say.

Is that why you're trying to act like "political violence" is the definition of terrorism now?

[Mettaton-EX]

it's certainly an interesting proposal coming from two members of multiple domestic terror groups.

[Nova Cyberia]

I've given it more thought than you, I'd say.

Is that why you're trying to act like "political violence" is the definition of terrorism now?

You're going to do it anyway, so I'll Google it for you.

ter·ror·ism

/ˈterəˌrizəm/

noun

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

"the fight against terrorism"

oh shit I was right

[Torrocca]

Only if you don't actually know the definition of terrorism, which you just made abundantly clear that you don't know.

Would you care to define it? Even more bonus points if you don't scramble to Google it.

Terrorism's about using indiscriminate violence primarily against civilians to achieve political or religious aims.

By that standard, the groups that make up AntiFA aren't terrorist groups.

"""Facts.""" Lol. Sorry, chief, but ass-pulled definitions aren't actually facts.

Oh, but they are. It isn't really my fault you like certain terrorists more than others just because they agree with you politically.

Nah, they're not facts no matter how many times you tell yourself that. Go break out a dictionary and read up the definition of terrorism, chief.

[Torrocca]

Is that why you're trying to act like "political violence" is the definition of terrorism now?

You're going to do it anyway, so I'll Google it for you.

ter·ror·ism

/ˈterəˌrizəm/

noun

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

"the fight against terrorism"

oh shit I was right

Prove they're an organization that commits terrorism and I'll agree.

They commit political violence.

That's all we need.

Nice lie.

[Nova Cyberia]

Would you care to define it? Even more bonus points if you don't scramble to Google it.

Terrorism's about using indiscriminate violence primarily against civilians to achieve political or religious aims.

By that standard, the groups that make up AntiFA aren't terrorist groups.

But they are. They're overwhelmingly anarchists and communists try to further their scummy ideology.

Oh, but they are. It isn't really my fault you like certain terrorists more than others just because they agree with you politically.

Nah, they're not facts no matter how many times you tell yourself that. Go break out a dictionary and read up the definition of terrorism, chief.

Funny, considering I was the one who had to educate you about the definition.

[Telconi]

it's certainly an interesting proposal coming from two members of multiple domestic terror groups.

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[Nova Cyberia]

You're going to do it anyway, so I'll Google it for you.

oh shit I was right

They commit political violence.

That's all we need.

Nice lie.

Care to actually make an argument?

I know you usually start running out of them at this stage.

[Mettaton-EX]

You're going to do it anyway, so I'll Google it for you.

oh shit I was right

They commit political violence.

That's all we need.

Nice lie.

any definition of terrorism that starts out with "unlawful" is 100% worthless

[The South Falls]

it's certainly an interesting proposal coming from two members of multiple domestic terror groups.

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[Torrocca]

Terrorism's about using indiscriminate violence primarily against civilians to achieve political or religious aims.

By that standard, the groups that make up AntiFA aren't terrorist groups.

But they are. They're overwhelmingly anarchists and communists try to further their scummy ideology.

TIL'd "Fascism bad" is an ideology.

Nice to know that you think it's scummy to oppose Fascism, though.

Nah, they're not facts no matter how many times you tell yourself that. Go break out a dictionary and read up the definition of terrorism, chief.

Funny, considering I was the one who had to educate you about the definition.

"""educate"""

You're the one here who doesn't even fucking realize "political violence" and "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims" are two vastly different statements with two vastly different meanings, hun.

[Rojava Free State]

Would you care to define it? Even more bonus points if you don't scramble to Google it.

Terrorism's about using indiscriminate violence primarily against civilians to achieve political or religious aims.

By that standard, the groups that make up AntiFA aren't terrorist groups.

Oh, but they are. It isn't really my fault you like certain terrorists more than others just because they agree with you politically.

Nah, they're not facts no matter how many times you tell yourself that. Go break out a dictionary and read up the definition of terrorism, chief.

>terrorism is about using indiscriminate violence to achieve political aims
>antifa aren't terrorists

How?

[Greater Roman State]

Doesn't make it not wrong.

It certainly makes it way less wrong. The world's not black and white, chief.

"less wrong" is still "wrong", and I can condemn it as such.

Just like there are left-wingers that condone incidents of violence against innocent people started by ANTIFA. Saying that "there are people who have, and people who haven't" isn't an argument. The same statement could be said about any group. I'm not denying the existence of such people, just saying that the existence of people who condone violence or use incidents of such to bash against their opposing ideology is not exclusive to right-wingers.

Chief, you literally accused me of thinking all right-wingers tacitly support Nazism. Your attempt to play at nuance now is pure bullshit.

Oh, you mean my response to your statement in which you coincidentally didn't mention that, no, the other side isn't filled with drivelling morons who think that violence is good. If you want to defend other left wingers by saying that they've distanced themselves from those incidents, that's fine, but you need to do your due diligence and at the very least concede that the other side has people who do the same thing. But you didn't. So, from this piece of information and your previous statements, I concluded that you have a bias against right wingers, and treated your omission of information as such. Your attempt to gain IQ points is now pure bullshit.

[The South Falls]

Nice lie.

any definition of terrorism that starts out with "unlawful" is 100% worthless

generally terrorist behavior falls under a definition of unlawfulness, save for in tinpot dictatorships

[Torrocca]

Terrorism's about using indiscriminate violence primarily against civilians to achieve political or religious aims.

By that standard, the groups that make up AntiFA aren't terrorist groups.



Nah, they're not facts no matter how many times you tell yourself that. Go break out a dictionary and read up the definition of terrorism, chief.

>terrorism is about using indiscriminate violence to achieve political aims
>antifa aren't terrorists

How?

Because A) AntiFA's still a social movement made up of multiple independent or co-dependent individuals, groups, and organizations and B) because their violence is mostly discriminatory against Fascists, barring incidents of non-Fascists and innocent people getting caught in the crossfire.

[Nova Cyberia]

But they are. They're overwhelmingly anarchists and communists try to further their scummy ideology.

TIL'd "Fascism bad" is an ideology.

The communists and anarchists who overwhelmingly make up Antifa are ideological and want to promote their ideology by violent means.

Nice to know that you think it's scummy to oppose Fascism, though.

Your bait is getting weaker every day.

Funny, considering I was the one who had to educate you about the definition.

"""educate"""

You're the one here who doesn't even fucking realize "political violence" and "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims" are two vastly different statements with two vastly different meanings, hun.

Violence in the pursuit of political aims is political violence, fam.

Lol

[Torrocca]

TIL'd "Fascism bad" is an ideology.

The communists and anarchists who overwhelmingly make up Antifa are ideological and want to promote their ideology by violent means.

TIL'd "Fascism bad" is an ideology.

Nice to know that you think it's scummy to oppose Fascism, though.

Your bait is getting weaker every day.

It's not bait to repeat what you said.

"""educate"""

You're the one here who doesn't even fucking realize "political violence" and "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims" are two vastly different statements with two vastly different meanings, hun.

Violence in the pursuit of political aims is political violence, fam.

Lol

"Political violence" is an umbrella term. "The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims" is a specific definition.

But we already know that you don't care to acknowledge your blatant wrongness here, so it's best to just disregard what you're saying tbh.