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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:40 pm

Highever wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:It's because while both the left and the right acknowledge that fascism is clearly terrible, the left doesn't seem to do so for communism.

PragerU - a channel the left has and will undoubtedly denounce without giving it a chance - has a video on it here.

You're acting like it's a complete mystery why people, even people who are not leftists, bash PragerU rightfully as it is not a credible source of anything.


While I totally agree communism is a terrible ideology and has caused immense suffering for mankind, prager University is a terrible source for information on anything. PragerU could tell me the sky is blue and I would have to double check just to make sure they weren't wrong. They aren't even a university. Prager U is just a random website that uploads your usual conservative leaning propoganda which half the time is out of touch with reality and in the camp of the Republican party.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:40 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?


Well, it's a mystery why people would bash facts.


Educate yourself, listen to a different opinion from Dennis Prager's for once.

Wait wait wait wait. You expect us to listen to a guy "debunk" prageru, yet when ever we give you a link saying how ANTIFA is bad you deny it ignore it or make up some bullshit excuse.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:42 pm

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Actually, if anything, it was deradicalization.


The current you is deradicalized? Holy Christ on a pogo stick.

XD never heard THAT one before XD
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:43 pm

Strahcoin wrote:
ElCKuT wrote:Again, off topic.

Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?


Only if we don't stoop to the same level as antifa. We have to remain peaceful but besides that we can go where the communists go and be there to protest when they preach their failed ideology.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:45 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, lazily branding people fascists is peak critical thinking. And no, I doubt you put much thought into it, considering the ease with which its hurled around nowadays.


As someone who has been subjected to (unsucessfull) Natsoc brainwashing and ideological conditioning I don't use the term Fascism because its mostly false applied.

Theres better terms and definitions.

Grenartia wrote:Actually, if anything, it was deradicalization.


From being conservative?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:46 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?


Only if we don't stoop to the same level as antifa. We have to remain peaceful but besides that we can go where the communists go and be there to protest when they preach their failed ideology.


But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:47 pm

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Ah, I'm sure you totally care about tightening restrictions universally, which is definitely why you support the border wall. :roll:

I support wall in areas where the flow of illegal aliens is the highest.

So, you know, we can do more to plug illegal immigration.

Either way, this doesn't matter because this thread isn't about you.

And yet you tried to make it about me. Funny how that works, eh?

Uhhh you can't exactly put a wall where the flow is highest.
I mean, it'd have to be a pretty high wall, anyways.

I'm pretty sure they'd make it a damn good point that self-discharging in a day makes him very unlikely to survive such an event.

So we've gone from "he lied" to "they'd stop him" to "they'd let him know the risks."

Keep on moving those goalposts, Torra. Really proves how honest you are. :roll:
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:48 pm

Telconi wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Only if we don't stoop to the same level as antifa. We have to remain peaceful but besides that we can go where the communists go and be there to protest when they preach their failed ideology.


But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.

Bike locks and concrete milk shakes and we can ki-sorry-seriously injure every commie out there!
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:48 pm

Telconi wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Only if we don't stoop to the same level as antifa. We have to remain peaceful but besides that we can go where the communists go and be there to protest when they preach their failed ideology.


But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.


Correct. :)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:48 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.


Correct. :)


Oh to be young and naïve again...
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:49 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.


Correct. :)


I don't believe any actual people unironically believe this.
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Postby Conservative New America » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:49 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?


Only if we don't stoop to the same level as antifa. We have to remain peaceful but besides that we can go where the communists go and be there to protest when they preach their failed ideology.


I wish they'd stop trying it after the 100th+ time it failed, but apparently people love throwing away freedom and money for the promise of free stuff.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.

Bike locks and concrete milk shakes and we can ki-sorry-seriously injure every commie out there!


Oh are we still perpetuating the concrete milkshakes hoax?
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:50 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But we totally won't be terrorists if we do stop the same level as Antifa, because Antifa is just nice people who oppose mean people.


Correct. :)

Can we address how a previous conservative can fucking LOSE intelligence?

I thought as you grow older you gain more wisdom, and with wisdom intelligence?


Hmmmmmmmmmm
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Correct. :)


Oh to be young and naïve again...

It honestly must be fun to have such a simplistic and childish worldview.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Correct. :)


Oh to be young and naïve again...


It's a mistake to attribute malice to simple naiveté.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:51 pm

Telconi wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Correct. :)


I don't believe any actual people unironically believe this.


>Implying I was being ironic

Ohoho, that's such a folly, Tel. ;)
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Postby Greater Roman State » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?


Well, it's a mystery why people would bash facts.


Educate yourself, listen to a different opinion from Dennis Prager's for once.

Facts: gulags existed. Many millions died in those gulags. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. Just because someone is wrong about a lot of stuff doesn't mean they can't be right about anything.

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Israeli Commonwealth wrote:Bike locks and concrete milk shakes and we can ki-sorry-seriously injure every commie out there!


Oh are we still perpetuating the concrete milkshakes hoax?


Rather it's true or not, it's no worse than the "Antifa are decent people" hoax.
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I don't believe any actual people unironically believe this.


>Implying I was being ironic

Ohoho, that's such a folly, Tel. ;)

Yep I detect a commie.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Greater Roman State wrote:

Facts: gulags existed. Many millions died in those gulags. Even a broken clock can be right twice a day. Just because someone is wrong about a lot of stuff doesn't mean they can't be right about anything.


Sorry, was there a point you were trying to make here?
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I don't believe any actual people unironically believe this.


>Implying I was being ironic

Ohoho, that's such a folly, Tel. ;)


No. I was actually implying you failed the first criteria.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Israeli Commonwealth wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Implying I was being ironic

Ohoho, that's such a folly, Tel. ;)

Yep I detect a commie.

What, the sig and the fetishism of far-left terrorists didn't give it away?
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Postby Kubra » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Did you know that limiting money in politics is limiting free speech
Just watch this pragerU video and it'll all come together
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Postby Israeli Commonwealth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Telconi wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
>Implying I was being ironic

Ohoho, that's such a folly, Tel. ;)


No. I was actually implying you failed the first criteria.

Oh god I dropped my bike lock when I read that :clap: :clap:
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