Two Senators want Antifa labled domestic terrorists

[Nova Cyberia]

Not really.

"Don't come here illegally" isn't racist.

Why don't you actually provide fucking evidence of me slandering South Americans?

Your entire fucking notion for dealing with the problem of illegal immigration is to make it excessively more difficult for South Americans to migrate to America, considering your love for shit like the border wall. That's the racist part, champ.

Tightening restrictions on immigration isn't really racist, especially considering that it isn't just South Americans who immigrate here.

Got anything else, Torra? I can tell you're scraping from the bottom of the barrel. I'm sure you'll go back to ignoring me if I poke enough holes in your arguments.

So, again, he could have self-discharged.

Which is something I doubt any good doctor would've allowed to happen if he actually had a hemorrhage.

They gonna chain him to the bed or something?

[Washington Resistance Army]

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

The simple answer is because we fought a big war against fascism. If we actually fought the USSR in the same way we did Germany and Japan we'd look at communism the same way.

[ElCKuT]

I form my own opinions on who is and isn't a fascist.

And in a sense, yes we are talking about Richard Spencer, because he is a fascist, and any discussion about antifascism must also involve discussions about fascism and fascists. You cannot reasonably separate the topics from each other, at least not without making any discussion of them meaningless to have.





I'm gonna be honest, you don't sound much older than 13.

Pansexual Christian.
I'm gonna be honest, you don't sound much older than...oh wait. That's the state of modern ignorance.

Ad hoc

[Nova Cyberia]

And your opinions are oftentimes wrong.

And yours aren't?

Sometimes they are.

The difference is I try to learn. You just keep branding people fascists.

If you have to rely on fascists to give your group credibility then you've already failed.

Either stand on your own feet or go away.

Case in point.

Okay?

[Israeli Commonwealth]

Good, now we can put this shitty denial to rest.

Well I mean to be discharged in a day it was probably not what we might call life threatening.

He could have had a concussion which bruised and caused a light bleed in the lower brain. If it was treated quickly and he had a high enough platelet count it is possible to be released in a day

[Strahcoin]

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

It's because while both the left and the right acknowledge that fascism is clearly terrible, the left doesn't seem to do so for communism.

PragerU - a channel the left has and will undoubtedly denounce without giving it a chance - has a video on it here.

[ElCKuT]

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

Not only is this whataboutism and off topic, but what you said - genocide and tyranny - are not the teachings of communism.

[Fartsniffage]

As for the brain bleed, Buzzfeed put out an article from the guy who brought him to the hospital who confirmed that he did suffer a subarachnoid hemorrhage. Coming from Buzzfeed, I'll trust that.

It might be true. But if it is then the guy should be buying lottery tickets. Of people who survive a full and complete treatment only about 25% get to return to their lives as normal. It's about 40-50% that don't even survive hospilisation.

[Grenartia]

I form my own opinions on who is and isn't a fascist.

And in a sense, yes we are talking about Richard Spencer, because he is a fascist, and any discussion about antifascism must also involve discussions about fascism and fascists. You cannot reasonably separate the topics from each other, at least not without making any discussion of them meaningless to have.





I'm gonna be honest, you don't sound much older than 13.

Pansexual Christian.
I'm gonna be honest, you don't sound much older than...oh wait. That's the state of modern ignorance.

Aren't you republicans supposedly all about freedom?

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

Most antifascists are just as opposed to tankies (who many of us regard as red fascists) as we are more traditional strains of fascism.

Most of us hate the tyranny of the USSR and its puppets, including North Korea and China, just as much as we hate the tyranny of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

[Israeli Commonwealth]

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

Not only is this whataboutism and off topic, but what you said - genocide and tyranny - are not the teachings of communism.

But it is the result. Shootings of schools are not the purpose of guns yet the left wants them removed because they can cause a shooting.
Also worldwide communist revolution will cause genocide no doubt

[ElCKuT]

Not only is this whataboutism and off topic, but what you said - genocide and tyranny - are not the teachings of communism.

But it is the result. Shootings of schools are not the purpose of guns yet the left wants them removed because they can cause a shooting.
Also worldwide communist revolution will cause genocide no doubt

Again, off topic.

[Torrocca]

Your entire fucking notion for dealing with the problem of illegal immigration is to make it excessively more difficult for South Americans to migrate to America, considering your love for shit like the border wall. That's the racist part, champ.

Tightening restrictions on immigration isn't really racist, especially considering that it isn't just South Americans who immigrate here.

Got anything else, Torra? I can tell you're scraping from the bottom of the barrel. I'm sure you'll go back to ignoring me if I poke enough holes in your arguments.

Ah, I'm sure you totally care about tightening restrictions universally, which is definitely why you support the border wall.

Either way, this doesn't matter because this thread isn't about you.

Which is something I doubt any good doctor would've allowed to happen if he actually had a hemorrhage.

They gonna chain him to the bed or something?

I'm pretty sure they'd make it a damn good point that self-discharging in a day makes him very unlikely to survive such an event.

[Highever]

My biggest question: why is fascism portrayed as a universal evil yet communism - which has spurred numerous genocides and, to date, always spawns tyrannical hellscapes - is still considered a viable ideology by many? An enormous number of Antifa terrorists (because using violence and intimidation to advance a political goal is the definition of terrorism) proudly display the hammer and sickle, and people are permitted to openly call themselves communists without fear of vigilante gangs hunting them down.

What makes fascism so much worse than communism?

It's because while both the left and the right acknowledge that fascism is clearly terrible, the left doesn't seem to do so for communism.

PragerU - a channel the left has and will undoubtedly denounce without giving it a chance - has a video on it here.

You're acting like it's a complete mystery why people, even people who are not leftists, bash PragerU rightfully as it is not a credible source of anything.

[Israeli Commonwealth]

But it is the result. Shootings of schools are not the purpose of guns yet the left wants them removed because they can cause a shooting.
Also worldwide communist revolution will cause genocide no doubt

Again, off topic.

So is communism.

[Grenartia]

The difference is I try to learn.

You don't fucking think I do? I used to be a fucking conservative. How do you think I got where I am today? By fucking learning from my mistakes, being open minded, and thinking critically and for myself, that's how.

You just keep branding people fascists.

Only those whom I have very good reason to. I don't toss it around frivolously, like certain people in this thread have been tossing around "terrorist" and "cockroaches" at antifascists.

[Strahcoin]

But it is the result. Shootings of schools are not the purpose of guns yet the left wants them removed because they can cause a shooting.
Also worldwide communist revolution will cause genocide no doubt

Again, off topic.

Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?

It's because while both the left and the right acknowledge that fascism is clearly terrible, the left doesn't seem to do so for communism.

PragerU - a channel the left has and will undoubtedly denounce without giving it a chance - has a video on it here.

You're acting like it's a complete mystery why people, even people who are not leftists, bash PragerU rightfully as it is not a credible source of anything.

Well, it's a mystery why people would bash facts.

[Grenartia]

Again, off topic.

Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?

You're acting like it's a complete mystery why people, even people who are not leftists, bash PragerU rightfully as it is not a credible source of anything.

Well, it's a mystery why people would bash facts.

Educate yourself, listen to a different opinion from Dennis Prager's for once.

[Telconi]

The difference is I try to learn.

You don't fucking think I do? I used to be a fucking conservative. How do you think I got where I am today? By fucking learning from my mistakes, being open minded, and thinking critically and for myself, that's how.

You just keep branding people fascists.

Only those whom I have very good reason to. I don't toss it around frivolously, like certain people in this thread have been tossing around "terrorist" and "cockroaches" at antifascists.

I don't think a person's descent into extremism is a valuable example of 'learning'.

[Kubra]

Again, off topic.

Israeli Commonwealth has a point.

If we have Antifa (which supposedly fights fascism), why can't we have "Antico" (short for anti-communism)?

You're acting like it's a complete mystery why people, even people who are not leftists, bash PragerU rightfully as it is not a credible source of anything.

Well, it's a mystery why people would bash facts.

I mean, if you wanted an antico you could have one.

[Nakena]

I used to be a fucking conservative. How do you think I got where I am today? By fucking learning from my mistakes, being open minded, and thinking critically and for myself, that's how.

[DESIRE TO KNOW MORE ITENSIFIES]

I've also got close to fascism for a while, and almost got brainwashed into Alt-Right National Socialism. I thankfully managed to beat the conditioning and subverted it sucessfully.

Only those whom I have very good reason to. I don't toss it around frivolously, like certain people in this thread have been tossing around "terrorist" and "cockroaches" at antifascists.

To be fair you have a proper definition of it and dont beat it around the bush.

[Grenartia]

You don't fucking think I do? I used to be a fucking conservative. How do you think I got where I am today? By fucking learning from my mistakes, being open minded, and thinking critically and for myself, that's how.



Only those whom I have very good reason to. I don't toss it around frivolously, like certain people in this thread have been tossing around "terrorist" and "cockroaches" at antifascists.

I don't think a person's descent into extremism is a valuable example of 'learning'.

Actually, if anything, it was deradicalization.

[Skarten]

Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.

I,too, show my dissent against political leaders by beating people with bike locks.

[Telconi]

I don't think a person's descent into extremism is a valuable example of 'learning'.

Actually, if anything, it was deradicalization.

The current you is deradicalized? Holy Christ on a pogo stick.

[Nova Cyberia]

Tightening restrictions on immigration isn't really racist, especially considering that it isn't just South Americans who immigrate here.

Got anything else, Torra? I can tell you're scraping from the bottom of the barrel. I'm sure you'll go back to ignoring me if I poke enough holes in your arguments.

Ah, I'm sure you totally care about tightening restrictions universally, which is definitely why you support the border wall.

I support wall in areas where the flow of illegal aliens is the highest.

So, you know, we can do more to plug illegal immigration.

Either way, this doesn't matter because this thread isn't about you.

And yet you tried to make it about me. Funny how that works, eh?

They gonna chain him to the bed or something?

I'm pretty sure they'd make it a damn good point that self-discharging in a day makes him very unlikely to survive such an event.

So we've gone from "he lied" to "they'd stop him" to "they'd let him know the risks."

Keep on moving those goalposts, Torra. Really proves how honest you are.

[Nova Cyberia]

The difference is I try to learn.

You don't fucking think I do? I used to be a fucking conservative. How do you think I got where I am today? By fucking learning from my mistakes, being open minded, and thinking critically and for myself, that's how.

Yes, lazily branding people fascists is peak critical thinking. And no, I doubt you put much thought into it, considering the ease with which its hurled around nowadays.

You just keep branding people fascists.

Only those whom I have very good reason to. I don't toss it around frivolously, like certain people in this thread have been tossing around "terrorist" and "cockroaches" at antifascists.

Well, you lot have a well-earned reputation for being violent.