Two Senators want Antifa labled domestic terrorists

[Torrocca]

WRA's got a good number of beliefs that'd be considered Fascist.

The day WRA's fascist, is the day america falls into anarchy.

Well, in that case... WRA, turn to Fascism today!

That's fair, and in that regard, they could easily do that. At that point, though, blame falls more on the locality than AntiFA as a whole.

Yeah, I tend to talk about Antifa organizations/chapters/associations when talking about these kinds of problematic behaviors. The local Antifa groups in my areas go to protests, but they usually don't bring weapons, aside from the ones that everybody carry. Most of their activities are actually philanthropic work.

Yeah. Of course with any social movement you're going to have problematic local groups and the like, but treating it as a concurrent to all of AntiFA's pretty damn stupid.

[EastKekistan]

Maybe it is done for a demographic purpose (anti-gentrification) which is political.

No it's usually just done on a "hey I'm in assloads of poverty and can make money robbing people or selling drugs" basis lol

Doesn't happen that much in many other societies such as Japan.

[Vassenor]

Oh here we go again with the "Antifa are the real fascists" spiel.

If you believe in free speech then Antifa has to be allowed to exist too.

To exist? Sure to an extent. Not if they promote killings of officers and raid right wing speakers.

Cool. Prove that's actually happened.

[Torrocca]

I've flirted with non-capitalist, non-socialist ideologies in the past. Distributism, Georgism, etc. have been characterized as third positions, so I'd be a bit more nuanced about it, especially given that half of us on NS are nonconformist goofballs.

Torra has the ideological nuance you'd expect from a commie (ie none at all). We're all either fascists, capitalists, or communists.

"nO nUaNcE!!1!"

And you wonder why I leave you on my foe's list.

[Fahran]

Yeah. Of course with any social movement you're going to have problematic local groups and the like, but treating it as a concurrent to all of AntiFA's pretty damn stupid.

I agree. And let's not even get into the can of worms that is America's counter-terrorism laws.

[ElCKuT]

We're having people hit with bats/bike locks and now at least one side has indirectly created an atmosphere in which a molotov was thrown and shots fired at law enforcement.

It's getting close if it's not there.

I'd rather no one be radicalized and return to centrism but certain people disagree.

I know it is bad. However it's not at the level of terrorism yet. When it happens we need to use the term. Right now nope.

Terrorism is the act violence due to a religious and/or political motive. There have been instances of both the far-right and far-left doing so.

[Torrocca]

Yeah. Of course with any social movement you're going to have problematic local groups and the like, but treating it as a concurrent to all of AntiFA's pretty damn stupid.

I agree. And let's not even get into the can of worms that is America's counter-terrorism laws.

Fuck that shit tbqh.

[Washington Resistance Army]

No it's usually just done on a "hey I'm in assloads of poverty and can make money robbing people or selling drugs" basis lol

Doesn't happen that much in many other societies such as Japan.

Because Japan has a vastly different history and culture surrounding such things that we lack.

[Holy Tedalonia]

The day WRA's fascist, is the day america falls into anarchy.

Well, in that case... WRA, turn to Fascism today!

We haven't hit true anarchy yet. Please stop doing your hyperbolic jests.

[Nova Cyberia]

Torra has the ideological nuance you'd expect from a commie (ie none at all). We're all either fascists, capitalists, or communists.

"nO nUaNcE!!1!"

And you wonder why I leave you on my foe's list.

I don't wonder in the least. I got under your skin by poking holes in your flimsy arguments, so you foe'd me. Wasn't really my intention, but here we are.

[Torrocca]

Well, in that case... WRA, turn to Fascism today!

We haven't hit true anarchy yet. Please stop doing your hyperbolic jests.

We need to hit true anarchy ASAP, however. >:3

[Holy Tedalonia]

No it's usually just done on a "hey I'm in assloads of poverty and can make money robbing people or selling drugs" basis lol

Doesn't happen that much in many other societies such as Japan.

Japans famous for political corruption and delinquency. The Yakuza bring american crime syndicates to shame.

[The South Falls]

That's fair, and in that regard, they could easily do that. At that point, though, blame falls more on the locality than AntiFA as a whole.

Yeah, I tend to talk about Antifa organizations/chapters/associations when talking about these kinds of problematic behaviors. The local Antifa groups in my areas go to protests, but they usually don't bring weapons, aside from the ones that everybody carry. Most of their activities are actually philanthropic work.

They see the bike-lock wielders and want to differentiate themselves.

[The South Falls]

Doesn't happen that much in many other societies such as Japan.

Japans famous for political corruption and delinquency. The Yakuza bring american crime syndicates to shame.

That moment when your gangs are so big they are a political party, price controller, economic force, sports conglomerate and murder operation all at once

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Japans famous for political corruption and delinquency. The Yakuza bring american crime syndicates to shame.

That moment when your gangs are so big they are a political party, price controller, economic force, sports conglomerate and murder operation all at once

I would say all governments are gangs, the only difference is perceived legitimacy.

[Israeli Commonwealth]

I may disagree with your political views, but yeah, political violence, or just violence in general is bad.

Violence, in general, is not always bad. Context is fucking important when it comes to violence, chief.

Hey so you agree with me that everyone should own a gun to protect themselves from people like ANTIFA!? Good on you mate!

[Torrocca]

Violence, in general, is not always bad. Context is fucking important when it comes to violence, chief.

Hey so you agree with me that everyone should own a gun to protect themselves from people like ANTIFA!? Good on you mate!

You've made it abundantly clear in this thread that you don't understand what AntiFA even is, so... no.

[The Alma Mater]

Violence, in general, is not always bad. Context is fucking important when it comes to violence, chief.

Hey so you agree with me that everyone should own a gun to protect themselves from people like ANTIFA!? Good on you mate!

Surely as a Jew you can sympathise with people who oppose the idea you belong in a concentration camp, and are willing to use force to make certain that will not happen ?

[Wallenburg]

Violence, in general, is not always bad. Context is fucking important when it comes to violence, chief.

Hey so you agree with me that everyone should own a gun to protect themselves from people like ANTIFA!? Good on you mate!

To protect antifascists from fascists actually.

[Nova Cyberia]

Hey so you agree with me that everyone should own a gun to protect themselves from people like ANTIFA!? Good on you mate!

Surely as a Jew you can sympathise with people who oppose the idea you belong in a concentration camp, and are willing to use force to make certain that will not happen ?

Jew boi here.

Antifa does not protect me.

[Holy Tedalonia]

That moment when your gangs are so big they are a political party, price controller, economic force, sports conglomerate and murder operation all at once

I would say all governments are gangs, the only difference is perceived legitimacy.

Ideally no governments are gangs, but corruption has a funny way of pointing the middle finger at us.

[EastKekistan]

Doesn't happen that much in many other societies such as Japan.

Japans famous for political corruption and delinquency. The Yakuza bring american crime syndicates to shame.

Yakuza doesn't fucking make streets in Japan dangerous, let alone as dangerous as Detroit.

[Torrocca]

Surely as a Jew you can sympathise with people who oppose the idea you belong in a concentration camp, and are willing to use force to make certain that will not happen ?

Jew boi here.

Antifa does not protect me.

I don't think anyone had any doubts that AntiFA wouldn't protect a Fascist.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Jew boi here.

Antifa does not protect me.

I don't think anyone had any doubts that AntiFA wouldn't protect a Fascist.

They'd probably want to punch even nice and cuddly people like me if they got the chance. Sadface.

[Torrocca]

I don't think anyone had any doubts that AntiFA wouldn't protect a Fascist.

They'd probably want to punch even nice and cuddly people like me if they got the chance. Sadface.

DI don't bulli me with this libel ;~;