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Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:53 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:It really isn't. All the time they say "Make racists afraid again" and they aren't exactly looking to convert people peacefully to their cause. Fits the definition of terrorism. That being said, antifa isn't exactly a single organization, and terrorism is actually a pretty vague term


Antifa is technically a terror group but operates more like a teenage criminal street gang, with baseball bats, knives and rocks and bottles and a tendency to loot and vandalize stores

Exactly. They're a bunch of Live Action Roleplayers. They don't shut their mouths about all the groups they want to kill and silence but they haven't actually killed anyone in the past 30 years
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Thermodolia wrote:Crowder is a dumb racist idiot. But he’s not a fascist. Is he a pawn in the fascists quest for power? Possibly

Almost certainly, in my opinion. He platforms Stefan Molyneaux ffs.

I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist
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I assume its a typo, but your first and last sentences highly contradict each other.


DOH! I meant anti authoritarian ugh

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Postby Strahcoin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:56 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Crowder is a dumb racist idiot. But he’s not a fascist. Is he a pawn in the fascists quest for power? Possibly

Fascists hate crowder. He's controlled opposition. Fascists are big gatekeepers

Also, Crowder supports the freedom of speech, while Fascists don't. Crowder opposes the use of violence against those who disagree with them, as stated here.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:56 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Almost certainly, in my opinion. He platforms Stefan Molyneaux ffs.

I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist


This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:57 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Almost certainly, in my opinion. He platforms Stefan Molyneaux ffs.

I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

He’s pretty fascism adjacent though, to be somewhat fair.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist


This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.


How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.


How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for


There's a whole ideology for those sorts.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 pm

I don't like Antifa or their actions, but calling them terrorists is a bit extreme.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Almost certainly, in my opinion. He platforms Stefan Molyneaux ffs.

I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:58 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.


How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for

Idk bro, maybe the KKK or something of the like... Maybe they don't care and are just care about race as a way to excuse the wealth gaps
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:59 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Antifa is technically a terror group but operates more like a teenage criminal street gang, with baseball bats, knives and rocks and bottles and a tendency to loot and vandalize stores

Exactly. They're a bunch of Live Action Roleplayers. They don't shut their mouths about all the groups they want to kill and silence but they haven't actually killed anyone in the past 30 years


I would be more tempted to label them a gang than a terror group. When I think terrorists, I think provos or Al Qaeda, not window breaking and garbage can burning
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

Fascism has a strict way that the State must be organized. WN…doesn’t.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?


A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.


How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for

Anarcho-Capitalism is just a meme ideology which is really just corporatism under a different name.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Kowani wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

Fascism has a strict way that the State must be organized. WN…doesn’t.

Fascism really doesn't though. Fascism is a collection of ideologies often with radically different ways of state organization, just like socialism.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:03 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for

Anarcho-Capitalism is just a meme ideology which is really just corporatism under a different name.


Anarcho capitalism sounds like capitalism taken to it's full extent where the government has literally no control and any business is legal
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Kowani wrote:Yeah, PragerU is an unbiased source on how good PragerU is.

Strange how their reviews just rave about them and never saying anything bad

Could be because most of those who despise PragerU never seriously watched it with an open mind...

Of course, the left dominates the media, so if you're looking for criticism, there's plenty on the internet (and here, apparently).
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Wallenburg wrote:Yes, they host fascists. For example, Steven Crowder. Also, being an Orthodox Jew and being a fascist are far from mutually exclusive. In fact, the more orthodox and zionist Jews tend to be more fascist.

Socialists believe in dismantling the socioeconomic hierarchies that oppress the workers and various other persecuted groups. Fascists believe in reinforcing hierarchies to benefit an ever-narrower corner of their society, such that the weakest and most vulnerable elements of society are considered worthy of death.

To open my mind to fucking PragerU is to lower my defenses against counterfactual, bigoted, and globally destructive propaganda. No thank you. Find a legitimate authority to support your arguments next time. Or, better yet, defend your arguments yourself.

Trump literally speaks like a child, doesn't know how key elements of his government work, can't pay attention for as much as 10 seconds, and whines about the media when they show everyone a fraction of how stupid he is. He has failed his way through his businesses, and he's failing his way through the presidency.

Fascism is literally about installing oppressors, not overthrowing them. Far-leftism across the fucking board believes in the total dissolution of the state, not "willingly surrendering the person to the state". The facts of political speech show that the left has had its speech suppressed far more than the right.

Marxism also involves overthrowing the concept of a state at all. You don't build a totalitarian state and empire-build to do that.

LMAO

I have never encountered a conservative that actually believes that. If they existed, Trump's comments about Democratic congresswomen would have gotten him convicted in the Senate by now.

1. Calling Steven Crowder a fascist is like calling the Black Hole "white". Nothing could be farther from the truth.
2. Then why did Hitler and the Nazis violate the Treaty of Versailles and attack Britain and France?

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Seriously dude crack open a book.

3. And that's why nobody could debate a leftist...

Nobody who listens to the shit that is PragerU can.

4. Trump is not failing. He's thriving. Look at the unemployment numbers. Look at the wall being built at the border. Frankly, the politicians of the Democrat Party seem to "whine" about Trump and conservatives significantly more. And as for Trump unable to focus for a long time, neither can the American people. Trump connects with us, and he doesn't pretend to be intellectually better than us.

Dude his poll numbers are constantly in the tank. And what wall? You mean the one that won’t be started until 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021?

5. Does that mean laissez-faire capitalism and right-libertarianism are left-wing ideologies?

No. Only a few far left ideologies are for the destruction of the state.

6. Well, who's going to make sure the "bourgeoisie" don't rise and "seize the means of production" from the laborers?

The state.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?


A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:05 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.


Not inherently. Whilst it is very meme worthy Richard Spencer and his "peaceful ethnic cleansing" where he'd just pay all the non-white people to leave is a good example of one such sort.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:06 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.


Instead of telling people to go back to their country, they'll politely ask them to go back

Seriously I have never once met a white nationalist that wasn't extremely authoritarian and tolerant of other views. Most if not all of them are pretty fascistic
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

White nationalists are a broad group that covers everything from far-left to far-right. Besides fascism is an ideology based around corporatism, militarism, and established hierarchies. Fascism technically doesn’t require WN
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:08 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.

Not necessarily.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

White nationalists are a broad group that covers everything from far-left to far-right. Besides fascism is an ideology based around corporatism, militarism, and established hierarchies. Fascism technically doesn’t require WN

Fascism isn't based around corporatism. Certain fascist systems incorporated corporatism, however it is not tantamount to fascism
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