NATION

PASSWORD

Two Senators want Antifa labled domestic terrorists

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Senator
 
Posts: 4801
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:59 pm

Hatterleigh wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Antifa is technically a terror group but operates more like a teenage criminal street gang, with baseball bats, knives and rocks and bottles and a tendency to loot and vandalize stores

Exactly. They're a bunch of Live Action Roleplayers. They don't shut their mouths about all the groups they want to kill and silence but they haven't actually killed anyone in the past 30 years


I would be more tempted to label them a gang than a terror group. When I think terrorists, I think provos or Al Qaeda, not window breaking and garbage can burning
political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
pro: marijuana, gun rights, private property, and sexy brown women

anti: fascism, communism, islamism, sexism, pan africanism, La raza, Warren Police Department (and most of the other police departments of metro Detroit except for Auburn Hills. They're aight), gun control, trump, obama, bush, clinton, reagan, carter, chipotle and snotty in crowd teens. Ugh I can't deal with them
Half Lebanese, Half Puerto Rican. All american. Not Kurdish at all.

User avatar
Kowani
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15433
Founded: Apr 01, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

Fascism has a strict way that the State must be organized. WN…doesn’t.
Narcissistic (Hedonistic) Nihilist. Yes, I am edgy. I know.
Atheist and still proud of it.
Post-Capitalist, Post-Nationalist.
Rights are functionally just privileges society has deemed important.
Prydania wrote:
As a Canadian? I find Americans and their deep, deep distrust of the government to be fundamentally, critically, laughably flawed. I find some aspects of your country completely absurd. The distrust of anything remotely resembling authority is one. The gun problem that stems from that is another.

Seangoli wrote:You are spouting nonsensical drivel with no coherent thought, little logic, and at the end of it all just angry opining at the clouds based on a truly astonishly low level of knowledge or understanding of the subject matter.

0% Capitalism

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41513
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?


A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.
Last edited by Washington Resistance Army on Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
The Greater Ohio Valley
Senator
 
Posts: 4073
Founded: Jan 19, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
This^

Molyneaux is literally an unironic AnCap. He might be a white nationalist but he's not a fascist of any sort.


How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for

Anarcho-Capitalism is just a meme ideology which is really just corporatism under a different name.
27 year old pansexual H. sapien male who enjoys heavy metal and the classic PS1 Resident Evil games.
Hey, it's up to us to take out Umbrella.

Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

User avatar
Hatterleigh
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1138
Founded: Sep 07, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm

Kowani wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

Fascism has a strict way that the State must be organized. WN…doesn’t.

Fascism really doesn't though. Fascism is a collection of ideologies often with radically different ways of state organization, just like socialism.
✦ ✦ ✦ The Free Domain of Hatterleigh ✦ ✦ ✦
National News Network: Hatterlese Ligue A kicks off, Football / Soccer fans prepare for the season
Overview of Hatterleigh | William Botrum, Hatterleigh's President | Hatterlese Embassy Program | I don't use NS stats.
Pro: Tribalism, Guilds, Religion, Collectivism, Evola, Plato
Anti: Tech, Industrial Capitalism, Hedonism, Nihilism

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Senator
 
Posts: 4801
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:03 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
How can someone be an anarchist and a white nationalist? If there's no government, how could they prevent race mixing or being taken over by another ethnic group, things they always are on guard for

Anarcho-Capitalism is just a meme ideology which is really just corporatism under a different name.


Anarcho capitalism sounds like capitalism taken to it's full extent where the government has literally no control and any business is legal
political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
pro: marijuana, gun rights, private property, and sexy brown women

anti: fascism, communism, islamism, sexism, pan africanism, La raza, Warren Police Department (and most of the other police departments of metro Detroit except for Auburn Hills. They're aight), gun control, trump, obama, bush, clinton, reagan, carter, chipotle and snotty in crowd teens. Ugh I can't deal with them
Half Lebanese, Half Puerto Rican. All american. Not Kurdish at all.

User avatar
Strahcoin
Envoy
 
Posts: 230
Founded: Jun 01, 2019
Free-Market Paradise

Postby Strahcoin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:03 pm

Kowani wrote:
Strahcoin wrote:PragerU Testimonials:
  • "This is the first truly well done conservative YouTube channel that I've been able to find. It's so nice that youth with a more conservative mindset have a place to explore and expand upon their thoughts. I respect this channel even though I'm a liberal."
  • "As a college student who had his mind opened by PragerU, I'm so happy to be donating a portion of what little money I have. There's no price on what you're doing and know that you're doing your part in exposing future generations to a better way of life!"
  • "PragerU, unfortunately, didn't exist until AFTER I graduated college, but since listening it has helped clarify some of my views and gives me a better perspective on why I believe what I believe. It has equipped me to better articulate my values to my peers and for that I am forever grateful."
  • "I'm left of center, yet look forward to each new video. I'm in complete agreement with your views on morality, and common sense life advice. Even the videos I disagree with, I like, because they make me scratch my head."
  • "As a high school student in the Chicago area, I have had liberal views forced upon me in education and by my peers ever since I was a child. Thanks to PragerU that I am able to understand the truth and educate others correctly."
  • "PragerU has opened my eyes to so many things. It's clear and concise way of explaining things has supplied me with the arguments I need to take on the left in the uk. It is the thing I look forward to the most on a Monday, long may it continue."
  • "I'm 28 and I've been listening to you for 4 years. I've always heard you talk about prageru but I never actually visited the site. 4 days ago I decided to finally check it out and from then until now, I have watched every video you have on thete and have even had 2 friends who have started to learn from there as well. The videos are very informative and keeps you wanting more. To anyone who was like me and has yet to go to the site, I strongly advise you try it out, you won't be disappointed. Thank you Mr. Prager for all your good doing. Manny"

PragerU Impact Report (last page):
  • "I used to be a communist, but thanks to PragerU, I am now a conservative"
  • "From radical leftie to an open-minded critical thinker, and I owe it all to you."

Yeah, PragerU is an unbiased source on how good PragerU is.

Of course it's not unbiased. What I was trying to show you was the positive impact it had.

Thermodolia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yeah, PragerU is an unbiased source on how good PragerU is.

Strange how their reviews just rave about them and never saying anything bad

Could be because most of those who despise PragerU never seriously watched it with an open mind...

Of course, the left dominates the media, so if you're looking for criticism, there's plenty on the internet (and here, apparently).
Not all NS stats/policies may be used.
A 15.428571428571... civilization, according to this index.
On this index, my army is a 6-6-8.
OOC: I support (not necessarily in order) conservatism, capitalism, patriotism, freedom of speech, right to bear arms, pro-life, low taxes, strong national defense, assimilation, legal immigration, science, death penalty for the worst crimes, anti-communism, anti-fascism, anti-socialism. There are only two genders. Nation mostly represents my views.

User avatar
Thermodolia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52451
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:04 pm

Strahcoin wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Yes, they host fascists. For example, Steven Crowder. Also, being an Orthodox Jew and being a fascist are far from mutually exclusive. In fact, the more orthodox and zionist Jews tend to be more fascist.

Socialists believe in dismantling the socioeconomic hierarchies that oppress the workers and various other persecuted groups. Fascists believe in reinforcing hierarchies to benefit an ever-narrower corner of their society, such that the weakest and most vulnerable elements of society are considered worthy of death.

To open my mind to fucking PragerU is to lower my defenses against counterfactual, bigoted, and globally destructive propaganda. No thank you. Find a legitimate authority to support your arguments next time. Or, better yet, defend your arguments yourself.

Trump literally speaks like a child, doesn't know how key elements of his government work, can't pay attention for as much as 10 seconds, and whines about the media when they show everyone a fraction of how stupid he is. He has failed his way through his businesses, and he's failing his way through the presidency.

Fascism is literally about installing oppressors, not overthrowing them. Far-leftism across the fucking board believes in the total dissolution of the state, not "willingly surrendering the person to the state". The facts of political speech show that the left has had its speech suppressed far more than the right.

Marxism also involves overthrowing the concept of a state at all. You don't build a totalitarian state and empire-build to do that.

LMAO

I have never encountered a conservative that actually believes that. If they existed, Trump's comments about Democratic congresswomen would have gotten him convicted in the Senate by now.

1. Calling Steven Crowder a fascist is like calling the Black Hole "white". Nothing could be farther from the truth.
2. Then why did Hitler and the Nazis violate the Treaty of Versailles and attack Britain and France?

Because Britain and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland. The invasion of Poland and the dismissal of the treaty of Versailles was in line with Nazi ideology for more living space and subjugation of non-aryans.

Seriously dude crack open a book.

3. And that's why nobody could debate a leftist...

Nobody who listens to the shit that is PragerU can.

4. Trump is not failing. He's thriving. Look at the unemployment numbers. Look at the wall being built at the border. Frankly, the politicians of the Democrat Party seem to "whine" about Trump and conservatives significantly more. And as for Trump unable to focus for a long time, neither can the American people. Trump connects with us, and he doesn't pretend to be intellectually better than us.

Dude his poll numbers are constantly in the tank. And what wall? You mean the one that won’t be started until 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021?

5. Does that mean laissez-faire capitalism and right-libertarianism are left-wing ideologies?

No. Only a few far left ideologies are for the destruction of the state.

6. Well, who's going to make sure the "bourgeoisie" don't rise and "seize the means of production" from the laborers?

The state.
Male, Titoist cultural nationalist, lives somewhere in the Deep South, give me any good Irish, Canadian, or Scottish whiskey and I will be your friend for life. I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies
Click Here for RP Info Embassy Program
Ambassadors to the WA:
Ambassador to the GA Jon Æthr
Ambassador to the SC Eve Šanœ

RIP Dya

User avatar
The Greater Ohio Valley
Senator
 
Posts: 4073
Founded: Jan 19, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?


A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.
27 year old pansexual H. sapien male who enjoys heavy metal and the classic PS1 Resident Evil games.
Hey, it's up to us to take out Umbrella.

Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41513
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:05 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.


Not inherently. Whilst it is very meme worthy Richard Spencer and his "peaceful ethnic cleansing" where he'd just pay all the non-white people to leave is a good example of one such sort.

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Senator
 
Posts: 4801
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:06 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.


Instead of telling people to go back to their country, they'll politely ask them to go back

Seriously I have never once met a white nationalist that wasn't extremely authoritarian and tolerant of other views. Most if not all of them are pretty fascistic
political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
pro: marijuana, gun rights, private property, and sexy brown women

anti: fascism, communism, islamism, sexism, pan africanism, La raza, Warren Police Department (and most of the other police departments of metro Detroit except for Auburn Hills. They're aight), gun control, trump, obama, bush, clinton, reagan, carter, chipotle and snotty in crowd teens. Ugh I can't deal with them
Half Lebanese, Half Puerto Rican. All american. Not Kurdish at all.

User avatar
Thermodolia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52451
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wouldn’t call Stefan Molyneaux a fascist either. Not all WNs are fascist

Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

White nationalists are a broad group that covers everything from far-left to far-right. Besides fascism is an ideology based around corporatism, militarism, and established hierarchies. Fascism technically doesn’t require WN
Male, Titoist cultural nationalist, lives somewhere in the Deep South, give me any good Irish, Canadian, or Scottish whiskey and I will be your friend for life. I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies
Click Here for RP Info Embassy Program
Ambassadors to the WA:
Ambassador to the GA Jon Æthr
Ambassador to the SC Eve Šanœ

RIP Dya

User avatar
Hatterleigh
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1138
Founded: Sep 07, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:08 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that

Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.

Not necessarily.
✦ ✦ ✦ The Free Domain of Hatterleigh ✦ ✦ ✦
National News Network: Hatterlese Ligue A kicks off, Football / Soccer fans prepare for the season
Overview of Hatterleigh | William Botrum, Hatterleigh's President | Hatterlese Embassy Program | I don't use NS stats.
Pro: Tribalism, Guilds, Religion, Collectivism, Evola, Plato
Anti: Tech, Industrial Capitalism, Hedonism, Nihilism

User avatar
Hatterleigh
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1138
Founded: Sep 07, 2016
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Hatterleigh » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:10 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?

White nationalists are a broad group that covers everything from far-left to far-right. Besides fascism is an ideology based around corporatism, militarism, and established hierarchies. Fascism technically doesn’t require WN

Fascism isn't based around corporatism. Certain fascist systems incorporated corporatism, however it is not tantamount to fascism
✦ ✦ ✦ The Free Domain of Hatterleigh ✦ ✦ ✦
National News Network: Hatterlese Ligue A kicks off, Football / Soccer fans prepare for the season
Overview of Hatterleigh | William Botrum, Hatterleigh's President | Hatterlese Embassy Program | I don't use NS stats.
Pro: Tribalism, Guilds, Religion, Collectivism, Evola, Plato
Anti: Tech, Industrial Capitalism, Hedonism, Nihilism

User avatar
Thermodolia
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 52451
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:11 pm

Strahcoin wrote:
Kowani wrote:Yeah, PragerU is an unbiased source on how good PragerU is.

Of course it's not unbiased. What I was trying to show you was the positive impact it had.

Thermodolia wrote:Strange how their reviews just rave about them and never saying anything bad

Could be because most of those who despise PragerU never seriously watched it with an open mind...

If my mind was any more open my brain would fall out. I seriously doubt that any of those people are real.

Of course, the left dominates the media, so if you're looking for criticism, there's plenty on the internet (and here, apparently).

When did the left take control of the media? I wasn’t informed of this. Come comrades our time is now!! To arms citizens!! To arms!
Male, Titoist cultural nationalist, lives somewhere in the Deep South, give me any good Irish, Canadian, or Scottish whiskey and I will be your friend for life. I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies
Click Here for RP Info Embassy Program
Ambassadors to the WA:
Ambassador to the GA Jon Æthr
Ambassador to the SC Eve Šanœ

RIP Dya

User avatar
Wallenburg
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20204
Founded: Jan 30, 2015
New York Times Democracy

Postby Wallenburg » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Where is the difference between a white nationalist and a fascist?


A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.

Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.
PROFESSIONAL CRITIC OF ALL THINGS GENSEC
There never has been, nor will there ever be, such thing as a wallenburger.
grestin went through the MKULTRA program and he has more of a free will than wallenburg does - Imperial Idaho
PRO: GOOD || ANTI: BAD
Minister of World Assembly Affairs for The East Pacific

User avatar
Great Algerstonia
Envoy
 
Posts: 205
Founded: Mar 21, 2019
Conservative Democracy

Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:15 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.

Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.

*edited out*
Last edited by Great Algerstonia on Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Read this signature at your own risk.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 132529
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:15 pm

Strahcoin wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You think so? I'd be more of the opinion that if you go to a rally where there are a bunch of Nazis on your side, and you decide to hang around with the Nazis instead of turning right the fuck around and going home, then you're basically a Nazi too.

It's important to understand the ideologies and thoughts of those who disagree with you (including that of Nazis). That way, if their ideology is bad (which it is), you can dispute them more easily, because you'll know what they will say and how they will think. This exchange of knowledge is why the First Amendment exists, and it can enlighten all who participate.

It is important to understand Nazis. It is not important to go to a rally to support their attempts to unite with the mainstream right in order to understand Nazis.
Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Banter For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Snark That Are Themselves The Mere Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Sarcasm
He/Him

Dangerous this Jack o' Hearts.
With his kiss
the riot
starts

User avatar
Highever
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1862
Founded: Dec 21, 2014
New York Times Democracy

Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:15 pm

GrEaT ALgErStOnIa wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.

Are you implying that everyone that aligns with right-wing policies is a fascist?

How the hell did you get that from that post?
ΦΣK
⚦ Through the souls of your brothers and sisters I take My place amongst the Three; through their pleasure I ascend my Throne. Pleasure, for Pleasure's sake! ⚦
Remember Bloody Sunday
A wise man once said, ("We all dead, fuck it")
There's something in the water
Jolthig wrote:Use Soresu and not Juyo.
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

User avatar
The Greater Ohio Valley
Senator
 
Posts: 4073
Founded: Jan 19, 2013
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:16 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.


Not inherently. Whilst it is very meme worthy Richard Spencer and his "peaceful ethnic cleansing" where he'd just pay all the non-white people to leave is a good example of one such sort.


Hatterleigh wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Tbh that’s quite a bit of an oxymoron IMO, white nationalism would require authoritarianism or totalitarianism to achieve its goals.

Not necessarily.

I mean, you guys say that, but how else is a white ethnostate gonna be achieved without using dictatorial totalitarian or authoritarian power to cleanse the nation of nonehites? Pizza parties? Ice cream socials? Moving all WN’s to an uninhabited island somewhere? You guys might see different but I honestly can’t. Ethnostates (to me) require as much governmental and state power as possible to make a reality since you can’t remove the “””undesirables””” any other way.
27 year old pansexual H. sapien male who enjoys heavy metal and the classic PS1 Resident Evil games.
Hey, it's up to us to take out Umbrella.

Liriena wrote:anyone to the left of Pinochet: *exists*

right-wingers: wat about vuvuzelaaa lmao gottem

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41513
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:16 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.

Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.


As stated above, not inherently. Indeed the early era of our nation could be described as one that excluded and expelled non-whites but was still markedly liberal.

User avatar
Great Algerstonia
Envoy
 
Posts: 205
Founded: Mar 21, 2019
Conservative Democracy

Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:16 pm

Highever wrote:
GrEaT ALgErStOnIa wrote:Are you implying that everyone that aligns with right-wing policies is a fascist?

How the hell did you get that from that post?

I misread the post. I am sorry.

I’m going to edit it out now. If anyone asks, you saw nothing.
Read this signature at your own risk.

User avatar
Highever
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1862
Founded: Dec 21, 2014
New York Times Democracy

Postby Highever » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.


As stated above, not inherently. Indeed the early era of our nation could be described as one that excluded and expelled non-whites but was still markedly liberal.

Well....I dont know about expelled given the mass import of slaves.
ΦΣK
⚦ Through the souls of your brothers and sisters I take My place amongst the Three; through their pleasure I ascend my Throne. Pleasure, for Pleasure's sake! ⚦
Remember Bloody Sunday
A wise man once said, ("We all dead, fuck it")
There's something in the water
Jolthig wrote:Use Soresu and not Juyo.
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

User avatar
Washington Resistance Army
Post Czar
 
Posts: 41513
Founded: Aug 08, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:20 pm

Highever wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
As stated above, not inherently. Indeed the early era of our nation could be described as one that excluded and expelled non-whites but was still markedly liberal.

Well....I dont know about expelled given the mass import of slaves.


I was more thinking of the Natives with that bit, and slaves were just that.

User avatar
Diopolis
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12945
Founded: May 15, 2012
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Diopolis » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:21 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A white nationalist just wants a nation for white people, one can fully be a liberal democrat and still want that. Fascism is an entire political ideology laying out economic, social, political and foreign policy ideas. It's also used as a label for other authoritarian and ultranationalistic ideologies that are similar to Italian Fascism.

Exclusion of all non-whites from society and expulsion of all non-whites from the country is fully incompatible with liberalism, by any definition of the word.

The Chinese exclusion act is an example of a white nationalist policy adopted by a liberal state.
Trad-Catholic, hispanophile Texan distributist and paleoconservative.
Economic left -3.88, authoritarian 6.15
Thoughts
Abortion is not healthcare.
St Generalissimo Francisco Franco, pray for us!

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Anglia-Saxia, Crysuko, Destriustan, Diopolis, Dooom35796821595, Dresderstan, Fartsniffage, Geneviev, Gormwood, Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States, Inner Cubis, Ngelmish, Nouveau Yathrib, Perchan, Saiwania, Sangamonia, Shrillland, Telconi, Tengoto, Treadwellia, Trollgaard, Vassenor

Advertisement

Remove ads