Two Senators want Antifa labled domestic terrorists

[EastKekistan]

Though they do cause problems, spreading terror among the populace isn't their primary objective. They should probably be covered by an intermediary category or something relating to street gangs.

They aren't even as deadly as a street gang. So they are..a group of hipsters. That's it.

[Grenartia]

As an antifascist (as all truly moral and ethical people should be), this is simply a transparent attempt to eliminate political opposition. First its us, tomorrow it will be the rest of you.

Also, how the fuck can antifa be a "terrorist organization" when its not even a fucking organization?

[NERVUN]

'Plus, friendly daily reminder that anybody who thinks Antifa and Fa are equivalent is an idiot. Thanks.

And your reminder not to troll. *** Warned ***.

[Dumb Ideologies]

As an antifascist (as all truly moral and ethical people should be), this is simply a transparent attempt to eliminate political opposition. First its us, tomorrow it will be the rest of you.

Also, how the fuck can antifa be a "terrorist organization" when its not even a fucking organization?

Describing yourself and everyone who agrees with you as "truly moral and ethical people" without an iota of self-deprecation is...well...arrogant doesn't begin to cover it. It's uncomfortable to read.

[Highever]

Though they do cause problems, spreading terror among the populace isn't their primary objective. They should probably be covered by an intermediary category or something relating to street gangs.

I don't disagree, but it is difficult given that Antifa is such a nebulous term and has no central authority or structure.

[Necroghastia]

As an antifascist (as all truly moral and ethical people should be), this is simply a transparent attempt to eliminate political opposition. First its us, tomorrow it will be the rest of you.

Also, how the fuck can antifa be a "terrorist organization" when its not even a fucking organization?

Describing yourself and everyone who agrees with you as "truly moral and ethical people" without an iota of self-deprecation is...well...arrogant doesn't begin to cover it. It's uncomfortable to read.

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

[The Brytish Isles]

AntiFa has shown itself to be a dangerous and practically criminal group in recent times, considering the sheer scale of property damage, riots and general unlawfulness of its members. However, AntiFa isn’t one organised group, and is really just a “front” from what I recall. There isn’t any hierarchy or leadership, just a bunch of random people taking up its banners and all that.

But I do agree with this. The American AntiFa is too unlawful and simply uncivilised in my opinion.

[Telconi]

Describing yourself and everyone who agrees with you as "truly moral and ethical people" without an iota of self-deprecation is...well...arrogant doesn't begin to cover it. It's uncomfortable to read.

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

Nothing is inherently unethical.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Describing yourself and everyone who agrees with you as "truly moral and ethical people" without an iota of self-deprecation is...well...arrogant doesn't begin to cover it. It's uncomfortable to read.

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

Given the tendency of the antifa rioters to misidentify people as fascists their actions are not solely directed against the supposedly "objectively" unethical.

So no, its membership is not "truly moral and ethical". People are not perfect and being sanctimonious about how moral your group is, we'll that's just trying to handwave both mistaken and deliberately wrong-targeted action.

[Grenartia]

Describing yourself and everyone who agrees with you as "truly moral and ethical people" without an iota of self-deprecation is...well...arrogant doesn't begin to cover it. It's uncomfortable to read.

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

DI just likes to take any opportunity to "dunk" on me. Plus, if memory serves, she's one of those unironic Nazbol types, so of course she'd think opposing fascism is a bad thing.

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

Nothing is inherently unethical.

From any ethical position worth having, fascism is inherently unethical.

[Telconi]

Fascism is inherently unethical. I'm not sure what kind of point you think you're making.

DI just likes to take any opportunity to "dunk" on me. Plus, if memory serves, she's one of those unironic Nazbol types, so of course she'd think opposing fascism is a bad thing.

Nothing is inherently unethical.

From any ethical position worth having, fascism is inherently unethical.

No individual ethical system makes anything 'inherently unethical'.

I also very much disagree on your ethical system being one worth having.

[Risottia]

So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

Exactly, what tells you that there are no leftist policies or veterans?

Anyway, lovely. "I'm anti-supremacist BUT STILL" .

[Dumb Ideologies]

So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

Exactly, what tells you that there are no leftist policies or veterans?

Anyway, lovely. "I'm anti-supremacist BUT STILL" .

I much prefer my anti-supremacists still rather than carbonated.

[Risottia]

Exactly, what tells you that there are no leftist policies or veterans?

Anyway, lovely. "I'm anti-supremacist BUT STILL" .

I much prefer my anti-supremacists still rather than carbonated.

They can be carbonated at the beginning, but if you leave them open for enough time, they become still.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I much prefer my anti-supremacists still rather than carbonated.

They can be carbonated at the beginning, but if you leave them open for enough time, they become still.

By the time the process fully completes they'll be a stale anti-supremacist.

[Vassenor]

So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.

Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.

Thoughts, NSG?

Exactly, what tells you that there are no leftist policies or veterans?

Anyway, lovely. "I'm anti-supremacist BUT STILL" .

Also what makes veterans inherently requiring of respect?

[Tristian]

I am not sure about slapping the domestic terrorist label on them, but the Antifa are certainly a hateful, violent lot that are no better (if not worse) than the fascists that they claim to oppose.

[Vassenor]

I am not sure about slapping the domestic terrorist label on them, but the Antifa are certainly a hateful, violent lot that are no better (if not worse) than the fascists that they claim to oppose.

So how many people have antifa killed?

[Jack Thomas Lang]

So how many people have antifa killed?

It doesn't matter. You do not need an arbitrary number of kills (you don't even need a single one) to be violent. Beating up people and defacing private and public property is enough to make them violent.

[Vassenor]

So how many people have antifa killed?

It doesn't matter. You do not need an arbitrary number of kills (you don't even need a single one) to be violent. Beating up people and defacing private and public property is enough to make them violent.

When you're trying to push the "both sides are equally violent" narrative, it doesn't really hold water when one side has committed murders and the other side hasn't.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It doesn't matter. You do not need an arbitrary number of kills (you don't even need a single one) to be violent. Beating up people and defacing private and public property is enough to make them violent.

When you're trying to push the "both sides are equally violent" narrative, it doesn't really hold water when one side has committed murders and the other side hasn't.

I mean, not long ago an Antifa jackass got into a shootout with Tacoma PD and tried to burn down a refugee center with molotovs. Sure he kinda failed and it might have been suicide by cop, but it's not like he didn't try.

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Antifa is not an organization, how hard is this fact for people to get through their heads? There is no antifa membership card, there is no chairman of antifa. Antifa is a banner claimed by anyone who wants to claim it. If a group of 3 people who know each other and share the same antifascist beliefs decide to get together for a demonstration, that's antifa. Antifascists in Portland don't know or work with antifascists in New York. We are talking about hundreds of small groups of people who each decide to take action in their own town.

[Vassenor]

Antifa is not an organization, how hard is this fact for people to get through their heads? There is no antifa membership card, there is no chairman of antifa. Antifa is a banner claimed by anyone who wants to claim it. If a group of 3 people who know each other and share the same antifascist beliefs decide to get together for a demonstration, that's antifa. Antifascists in Portland don't know or work with antifascists in New York. We are talking about hundreds of small groups of people who each decide to take action in their own town.

And that's what makes this a transparent attempt to ban protests against the government.

[Grenartia]

DI just likes to take any opportunity to "dunk" on me. Plus, if memory serves, she's one of those unironic Nazbol types, so of course she'd think opposing fascism is a bad thing.



From any ethical position worth having, fascism is inherently unethical.

No individual ethical system makes anything 'inherently unethical'.

I also very much disagree on your ethical system being one worth having.

Strong words for someone who obviously doesn't even know my ethical system.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Not good, but it's not good to call white supremacists domestic terrorists either. It's just not double standards.