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by Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:30 pm
Strahcoin wrote:Torrocca wrote:
Protesters can, have, and do move out of the way of emergency vehicles. They don't need police brutality to do that.
I'm an Anarchist, chief. Put two and two together.
1. In an emergency, time is of the essence. Getting a crowd out of the way will take some time, which could be the difference of life and death. Better to get out now than later. Moreover, what about the other vehicles for which protesters don't move out of the way? They have important matters too. And the police in the United States is very lenient compared to that of other, more totalitarian nations.
2. Anarchy is bad. A power vacuum would be inevitable in anarchy. A small government is necessary to protect the people.
by Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:31 pm
Cedoria wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:Antifa cockroaches are a subset of a subset of a group. I am painting them with a broad brush because violence is their modus operandi. Or, if we're using commie Newspeak, "direct action".
Right, so I'm hearing that when YOU do it with no evidence whatsoever it's perfectly fine. Cool, just so we're clear. I don't think we need to hear much more from you on that.
by Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:31 pm
by Cedoria » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:33 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Cedoria wrote:Right, so I'm hearing that when YOU do it with no evidence whatsoever it's perfectly fine. Cool, just so we're clear. I don't think we need to hear much more from you on that.
You're trying to justify assaulting people. I'm not. There is no moral equivalency between us, chief.
And I will call inherently violent people violent.
by Strahcoin » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:35 pm
by Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:35 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Still waiting on that evidence.
It was published on this very thread not half an hour ago, as I mentioned twice now.
by Cedoria » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:38 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Cedoria wrote:And sub-human cockroaches apparently. Charming, Watch that mask brother, it's starting to eat your face
Well, yes. They exist only to hurt others, so they're scum.
It was published on this very thread not half an hour ago, as I mentioned twice now.
Torre's Wikipedia article was not evidence and didn't prove what she claimed it did.
She rarely ever actually reads the articles she posts, so bear that in mind when referencing her stuff.
by Strahcoin » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:41 pm
Torrocca wrote:Strahcoin wrote:1. In an emergency, time is of the essence. Getting a crowd out of the way will take some time, which could be the difference of life and death. Better to get out now than later. Moreover, what about the other vehicles for which protesters don't move out of the way? They have important matters too. And the police in the United States is very lenient compared to that of other, more totalitarian nations.
You seem to not understand what the point of a protest actually is. Protesting isn't about sitting quietly in an officially-designated corner, it's very specifically about causing inconvenience and commotion.2. Anarchy is bad. A power vacuum would be inevitable in anarchy. A small government is necessary to protect the people.
Nope. Nope. Aaand nope. But that's neither here nor there since this isn't the thread for that debate.
by Ohioan Territory » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:43 pm
by Totally Not OEP » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:00 pm
by Cekoviu » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:08 pm
Nova Cyberia wrote:Cedoria wrote:
Righto, because that's definitely NOT painting people you disagree with with an overly broad brush based on the actions of one particular subset of that group because it's more convenient of you to demonise. Totally different from what you were ranting about me doing a minute ago. Got ya. Do you even read how dumb this stuff is to yourself before you post it?
Antifa cockroaches are a subset of a subset of a group. I am painting them with a broad brush because violence is their modus operandi. Or, if we're using commie Newspeak, "direct action".
by The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:29 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:41 pm
by Radiatia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:49 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:A good move, if we could apply the label to them and the racialists they oppose in one fell swoop that would be great.
by The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:49 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:A good move, if we could apply the label to them and the racialists they oppose in one fell swoop that would be great.
by Wallenburg » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:37 pm
Totally Not OEP wrote:They need to be proscribed, as their views and antics represent a threat to the security and well being of the nation. Ideally, if I was in power, I'd deploy the National Guard to suppress and arrest their membership, in particular their leadership cadres. Same goes for any third party funders, coupled with the shutting down of all affiliated organizations, websites, social groupings, etc.
by Telconi » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:44 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Totally Not OEP wrote:They need to be proscribed, as their views and antics represent a threat to the security and well being of the nation. Ideally, if I was in power, I'd deploy the National Guard to suppress and arrest their membership, in particular their leadership cadres. Same goes for any third party funders, coupled with the shutting down of all affiliated organizations, websites, social groupings, etc.
+1 person who doesn't know jack shit about antifa. It isn't a fucking organization, it doesn't have membership rolls or leaders.
If instead you mean anyone who practices or supports antifascist action or speech, then you're really fucking letting your power level show buddy. Try at least pretending you care about freedom of speech like the rest of your buddies.
by Totally Not OEP » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:59 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Totally Not OEP wrote:They need to be proscribed, as their views and antics represent a threat to the security and well being of the nation. Ideally, if I was in power, I'd deploy the National Guard to suppress and arrest their membership, in particular their leadership cadres. Same goes for any third party funders, coupled with the shutting down of all affiliated organizations, websites, social groupings, etc.
+1 person who doesn't know jack shit about antifa. It isn't a fucking organization, it doesn't have membership rolls or leaders.
If instead you mean anyone who practices or supports antifascist action or speech, then you're really fucking letting your power level show buddy. Try at least pretending you care about freedom of speech like the rest of your buddies.
by EastKekistan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:28 am
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-senators-want-antifa-activists-to-be-labeled-domestic-terrorists-heres-what-that-means/ar-AAECtvK?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=spartanntpTwo Republican senators have introduced a nonbinding resolution that would label antifascists — known as antifa — as “domestic terrorists,” doubling down against radical activists who have drawn criticism from conservatives and President Trump.
“Antifa are terrorists, violent masked bullies who ‘fight fascism’ with actual fascism, protected by Liberal privilege,” Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) said in a statement. “Bullies get their way until someone says no. Elected officials must have courage, not cowardice, to prevent terror.”Hina Shamsi, director of the national security project at the American Civil Liberties Union, told The Washington Post that she opposes labeling groups as domestic terrorists. “It is dangerous and overly broad to use labels that are disconnected [from] actual individual conduct,” she said. “And as we’ve seen how ‘terrorism’ has been used already in this country, any such scheme raises significant due process, equal protection and First Amendment constitutional concerns.”Designating a group as a domestic terrorist organization expands law enforcement’s ability to investigate it. The label also means that police can not only investigate a specific suspect, but also look into groups that person affiliates with, Neal Katyal, a Georgetown University law professor and former national security adviser, told NPR.
Similar concerns may be the reason the federal government does not make public an official list of domestic terrorist groups, Jerome Bjelopera, a specialist in organized crime and terrorism, wrote in a Congressional Research Service report. The government does include domestic and international terrorists on its terrorist watch list, Bjelopera wrote.
So, as the article says, two republican senators want Antifa declared a terrorist organization.
Personally, I couldn't be more happy about this. Finally taking action against these left-wing versions of the white supremacists is long overdue. While I'm just as anti-supremacist as the next guy, Antifa's not much better, given their blatant lack of respect for the police force, veterans, and anyone who isn't on the left.
Thoughts, NSG?
by Vassenor » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:28 am
by Gormwood » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:29 am
by EastKekistan » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:33 am
Gormwood wrote:So Antifa has switched from Effeminate Soyboys to Murderous Supersoldiers already?
by Dumb Ideologies » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:25 am
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