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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:Mental damage is much different than physical damage. A person who got hit on the back of the head with a brick may not have the scars the next day, but he may have been traumatized for it, like the innocent person waving an american flag in protest of white supremacy that Antifa beat.

He was mentally damaged, but up for television interviews? Gosh. Must be serious. We can only hope he some day recovers.


ANTIFA sucks, but Andy Ngo is not the hill people should die on about Antifa.

Hasen't Andy talked about killing commies?
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:15 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He was mentally damaged, but up for television interviews? Gosh. Must be serious. We can only hope he some day recovers.


ANTIFA sucks, but Andy Ngo is not the hill people should die on about Antifa.

Hasen't Andy talked about killing commies?

I was talking about Paul Welch.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
ANTIFA sucks, but Andy Ngo is not the hill people should die on about Antifa.

Hasen't Andy talked about killing commies?

I was talking about Paul Welch.

Ah, yes. I remember this charming incident.

The man was obviously a fascist, since as we know Antifa thugs totally only go after fascists.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
ANTIFA sucks, but Andy Ngo is not the hill people should die on about Antifa.

Hasen't Andy talked about killing commies?

I was talking about Paul Welch.


Touche, I remember that.

That was fucked up.
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Postby Sudorenstan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:17 pm

Ifreann wrote:Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.

I don't think violent crime and no respect for law enforcement is any way to protest the current administration. They have a history of violence and racism and need to be calmed down.

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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:17 pm

ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:18 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:I was talking about Paul Welch.

Ah, yes. I remember this charming incident.

The man was obviously a fascist, since as we know Antifa thugs totally only go after fascists.

And as we all know, a couple anti-fascists fucking up one liberal makes the entire movement a terrorist organization.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:18 pm

Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

Funny, considering you endorsed a terrorist who tried to burn down a detainment center filled with children.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:18 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
United States of Devonta wrote:
ANTIFA sucks, but Andy Ngo is not the hill people should die on about Antifa.

Hasen't Andy talked about killing commies?

I was talking about Paul Welch.


Are the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood marked as terrorist organization? Jw and do you think they should be?
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:18 pm

Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

They're communists and anarchists, so they're not much better than fascists.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:19 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

They're communists and anarchists, so they're not much better than fascists.


Imagine thinking Communism and Anarchism are remotely equivalent to Fascism.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:20 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Ah, yes. I remember this charming incident.

The man was obviously a fascist, since as we know Antifa thugs totally only go after fascists.

And as we all know, a couple anti-fascists fucking up one liberal makes the entire movement a terrorist organization.

Ah, yes. Just a couple of Anti-Fascists.
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:20 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

They're communists and anarchists, so they're not much better than fascists.


Is Antifa an organized group w/ a leader anyways? Or national structure?

It's more of a social movement.
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Postby Hladgos » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:20 pm

I guess if what Antifa as an organization has fulfilled the requirements the US gommint has set that standardizes what 'terrorist group' means then sure. Have they done that?
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:22 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:And as we all know, a couple anti-fascists fucking up one liberal makes the entire movement a terrorist organization.

Ah, yes. Just a couple of Anti-Fascists.

That's not the same incident we were talking about, is it?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:23 pm

Wallenburg wrote:

That's not the same incident we were talking about, is it?

I forgot, we can only talk about that incident so you can continue to delude yourself into thinking that Antifa are gud bois who do nothing wrong.
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby Bozopolis » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:23 pm

I feel like it needs to be said that Antifa isn't like, a singular organization. No one group is really able to say it represents the whole of antifa. It's one of those things where it's just a political view. One of those "all it takes to join is to consider yourself a member" kinda deals. Just want to make sure you guys keep this information in mind.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:23 pm

Wallenburg wrote:

That's not the same incident we were talking about, is it?


I like how that WaPo link opens up with a video that has a thumbnail of a dude with a shirt that praises Pinochet getting knocked around by a sign.

That's totally a peaceful dude right there!
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:25 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That's not the same incident we were talking about, is it?


I like how that WaPo link opens up with a video that has a thumbnail of a dude with a shirt that praises Pinochet getting knocked around by a sign.

That's totally a peaceful dude right there!

Anndddd.... all the other people who got attacked who weren't wearing Pinochet shirts?

And besides, you endorsed a terrorist who tried to kill children. You have no moral superiority.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:25 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That's not the same incident we were talking about, is it?


I like how that WaPo link opens up with a video that has a thumbnail of a dude with a shirt that praises Pinochet getting knocked around by a sign.

That's totally a peaceful dude right there!


Oop :blink:
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:25 pm

Bozopolis wrote:I feel like it needs to be said that Antifa isn't like, a singular organization. No one group is really able to say it represents the whole of antifa. It's one of those things where it's just a political view. One of those "all it takes to join is to consider yourself a member" kinda deals. Just want to make sure you guys keep this information in mind.


No, no, clearly AntiFA is a well-armed and extremely dangerous terrorist organization that's totally the most organized thing to ever organize ever and has sleeper cells all across America!!1! Pray to your bible wrapped in an American flag every night otherwise an AntiFA terrorist organizer might pop out from your closet and terrorize you with their organized terrorism!
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"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:26 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Nothing to see here, just the GOP trying to ban dissent against Trump.

They would need more than a nonbinding resolution to do that.

Every plan needs a first step.
Plus black clad anarchists are not the only people who criticise Trump.

That's right. And watch as the label "antifa terrorists" is applied to people who aren't the scary anarchists you're thinking about.
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:26 pm

Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

Most Antifa members think anyone to their right is fascist, so their understanding is lacking just as much.
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Postby Torrocca » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:27 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

Most Antifa members think anyone to their right is fascist, so their understanding is lacking just as much.


I'm sure you have some verifiable proof like, say, a study or a poll that backs up this claim of yours. Amirite?
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"When the people are being hit with a stick, they are not happier if the stick is called “the stick of the people”. The State is an oppression that must be abolished."
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:27 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Torrocca wrote:ITT: People and two senators who don't understand the definition of Fascism praising the proposed legalized abolishment of anti-Fascists because people think violence is Fascism.

Imagine the amount of totally legitimate shock I'm currently definitely experiencing.

Most Antifa members think anyone to their right is fascist, so their understanding is lacking just as much.

Besides, Torra endorsed a terrorist who tried to burn down a detainment center filled with children, so her moral superiority is lacking anyway.
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