What if America banned guns?

[The Chuck]

*laughs in Nam*

All it takes to offset that firepower advantage is one guy using innocent women and children as human shields...

*Looks at Israel-Palestine Conflict*

If you don't like the gifs, I think Ifreann is rubbing off on me

[Nova Cyberia]

Then we'd all live in a utopia where no one gets hurt and Eric Swallwell would have the greatest orgasm of his life.

[Hladgos]

I think there'd be a great new economy for the Cartel to hop into, plus there'd still be 2 guns per person already.

[Melondonia]

So you know background checks are a thing. If someone could figure out a way to close the loopholes in the existing system without either A) banning private sales or B) creating massive privacy issues, they'd probably do that.
Gun safety courses make the most sense when firearms accidents/negligence lead to a high percentage of gun deaths. In the US they do not, and most of those deaths are dubious as to being prevented by safety training anyways- they're either hunting accidents or children with guns.

I looked at a few links, and it seems like far more hunters hurt themselves falling from tree stands (an item which I had to look up) or with knives anyway. So you're right, I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference.

I wonder how you'd go about stopping kids from getting their hands on guns, though. Else than locking the guns away when they're not in use, which I would hope most gun owners with children would do anyway (otherwise it's more of a negligent parent problem than a gun problem, I suppose.)

[Bear Stearns]

Wouldn't change much. Gun crime is only partially a function of access to guns (which wouldn't even be that restricted given the US government's awful track record at controlling contraband).

[US-SSR]

After a year or so someone would stick their head up and say, "hey, there hasn't been a mass shooting in awhile, what do you think the reason for that is?"

[Zurkerx]

Good luck taking roughly 320 million guns because that's a feat right there. But a ban wouldn't work anyway. Now some gun control on the other hand...

What gun control measures would you propose?

Oh no, I wouldn't be proposing much other than strong background checks. I'm not fond of restricting the 2nd Amendment.

[Bear Stearns]

After a year or so someone would stick their head up and say, "hey, there hasn't been a mass shooting in awhile, what do you think the reason for that is?"

Mass shootings are an incredibly small part of gun crime.

[Imperium of Dragonia]

After a year or so someone would stick their head up and say, "hey, there hasn't been a mass shooting in awhile, what do you think the reason for that is?"

Mass shootings are an incredibly small part of gun crime.

Almost as if existing gun control measures actually work. Shocker

[Proctopeo]

Mass shootings are an incredibly small part of gun crime.

Almost as if existing gun control measures actually work. Shocker

And that "mass shootings" where people are actually shot are incredibly rare. Just highly televised.

[Novo Vaticanus]

Literally nothing would happen. The largely pro-gun police who would be made to enforce the law wouldn't agree with it, so they wouldn't enforce it. There wouldn't be a civil war of any kind.

[Telconi]

Literally nothing would happen. The largely pro-gun police who would be made to enforce the law wouldn't agree with it, so they wouldn't enforce it. There wouldn't be a civil war of any kind.

This is also likely true, law enforcement is by and large pro-gun.

[Jeoloba]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

[United States of Americanas]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

THIS!!!

Guns are a sin against the law and word of God!

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. It’s a commandment.

Guns didn’t exist until recent eras of history.

OMG OMG WE NEED OUR GUNS TO BE SAFE! IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT!

People in the old days used things called swords and bows with poison darts.

If you need to defend yourself use a taser.

But ultimately it is better to die and have not committed the sin of killing another man than to kill another man and have a cardinal sin on your record.

FYI I’m a Unitarian Universalist / Christian / Jewish Democrat.

Conservatives have their heads up their ass. That’s why they manage to support guns and killing Gods creations while at the same time being Christians.

Hilariously they take from the poor to make the rich wealthier. I don’t remember a Bible verse about “Cut social services and take from the needy to give the rich man another yacht” what I do remember is “I was a foreigner in your land and you did not feed me or clothe me” and then I remember the admonishment the Bible gives stating and I’m paraphrasing these items FYI “if a foreigner comes into your land treat him as a brother feed him clothe him and house him and give him work, pay him his wage nightly before sundown so that you do not go to bed indebted to another man”

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

THIS!!!

Guns are a sin against the law and word of God!

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. It’s a commandment.

Guns didn’t exist until recent eras of history.

OMG OMG WE NEED OUR GUNS TO BE SAFE! IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT!

People in the old days used things called swords and bows with poison darts.

If you need to defend yourself use a taser.

But ultimately it is better to die and have not committed the sin of killing another man than to kill another man and have a cardinal sin on your record.

Except where God tells them to kill all the Midianites, except the “girl children who have not known a man”.

[United States of Americanas]

THIS!!!

Guns are a sin against the law and word of God!

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. It’s a commandment.

Guns didn’t exist until recent eras of history.

OMG OMG WE NEED OUR GUNS TO BE SAFE! IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT!

People in the old days used things called swords and bows with poison darts.

If you need to defend yourself use a taser.

But ultimately it is better to die and have not committed the sin of killing another man than to kill another man and have a cardinal sin on your record.

Except where God tells them to kill all the Midianites, except the “girl children who have not known a man”.

That is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Take it to the Christian discussion thread.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Except where God tells them to kill all the Midianites, except the “girl children who have not known a man”.

That is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Take it to the Christian discussion thread.

I’m merely disagreeing with you that it’s anti-Christian to own guns. You took it there, not me, bucko.

[Telconi]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

THIS!!!

Guns are a sin against the law and word of God!

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. It’s a commandment.

Guns didn’t exist until recent eras of history.

OMG OMG WE NEED OUR GUNS TO BE SAFE! IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT!

People in the old days used things called swords and bows with poison darts.

If you need to defend yourself use a taser.

But ultimately it is better to die and have not committed the sin of killing another man than to kill another man and have a cardinal sin on your record.

FYI I’m a Unitarian Universalist / Christian / Jewish Democrat.

Conservatives have their heads up their ass. That’s why they manage to support guns and killing Gods creations while at the same time being Christians.

Hilariously they take from the poor to make the rich wealthier. I don’t remember a Bible verse about “Cut social services and take from the needy to give the rich man another yacht” what I do remember is “I was a foreigner in your land and you did not feed me or clothe me” and then I remember the admonishment the Bible gives stating and I’m paraphrasing these items FYI “if a foreigner comes into your land treat him as a brother feed him clothe him and house him and give him work, pay him his wage nightly before sundown so that you do not go to bed indebted to another man”

Wait, you mean when the Israelites sacked all those cities in the promised land God was bamboozling them into damnation?

[Barboneia]

Expect a lot of boating accidents.

[Abaja]

Except where God tells them to kill all the Midianites, except the “girl children who have not known a man”.

That is irrelevant to the topic of this thread. Take it to the Christian discussion thread.

You were the one who was literally just talking about Christianity.

And plus, do you think God is going to punish somebody for protecting themselves.
No, I don't mean coming into some place and shooting it up. I mean actually protecting themselves from outside danger.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

You clearly misunderstand Christianity then.

[Bluelight-R006]

Perhaps making guns illegal to own will make it harder to get them. A lot of people get guns easily from stores, but make it illegal and some of those same group of people will give up trying to find ways. That’s what I believe at least.

This won’t necessarily stop gun-involved crimes though. Like what the OP said, people who really want a gun will find ways to own it, even when illegal. Banning guns may help solve the problem... only by a little.

Then there’s also self defence, which a baseball bat may not take up the place at all times.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

You clearly misunderstand Christianity then.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” -Matthew 10:34

[Luminesa]

I never understood how Christians, which most conservatives are, could support guns, that's very purpose is to take life from gods creatures.

THIS!!!

Guns are a sin against the law and word of God!

THOU SHALT NOT KILL. It’s a commandment.

Guns didn’t exist until recent eras of history.

OMG OMG WE NEED OUR GUNS TO BE SAFE! IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT!

People in the old days used things called swords and bows with poison darts.

If you need to defend yourself use a taser.

But ultimately it is better to die and have not committed the sin of killing another man than to kill another man and have a cardinal sin on your record.

FYI I’m a Unitarian Universalist / Christian / Jewish Democrat.

Conservatives have their heads up their ass. That’s why they manage to support guns and killing Gods creations while at the same time being Christians.

Hilariously they take from the poor to make the rich wealthier. I don’t remember a Bible verse about “Cut social services and take from the needy to give the rich man another yacht” what I do remember is “I was a foreigner in your land and you did not feed me or clothe me” and then I remember the admonishment the Bible gives stating and I’m paraphrasing these items FYI “if a foreigner comes into your land treat him as a brother feed him clothe him and house him and give him work, pay him his wage nightly before sundown so that you do not go to bed indebted to another man”

I hate to be the person to tell you that gunpowder has existed since at least the 10th century...and that an incredible amount of damage has been done throughout human history with things even worse than guns...and also things not as “bad” as guns...like swords...

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You clearly misunderstand Christianity then.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” -Matthew 10:34

That has a different meaning than what's relevant but fuck it, I can work with it.