by Abaja » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:26 pm
by Jean-Paul Sartre » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:28 pm
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:30 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Nuclear Wastelands » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:30 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:32 pm
by Inkopolitia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:33 pm
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:39 pm
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:40 pm
by Abaja » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:41 pm
Thermodolia wrote:As in tomorrow? Civil war.
There is no way in hell the US could ever ban guns as there’s at the bare minimum 600 million guns in the USA already
by EastKekistan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:42 pm
Abaja wrote:I'm not sure if this was asked before but just in case it wasn't:
I was wondering what anti-gunners really wanted to accomplish by banning guns in the United States. Do they want to impose gun control laws on all guns or just certain types like assault weapons? If we ban those guns, how is it necessarily going to stop mass shootings from happening? To me, a person who is willing to kill is going to go out of his/her way to illegally purchase guns and commit the crime. What this is doing is taking away guns from people who actually follow the rules.
Prohibition didn't work out. All it did was increase crime and smuggling of alcohol. What makes them think banning guns will stop criminals from killing other people?
I'd love to hear explanations on this.
by Arlenton » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:46 pm
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:47 pm
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world and you would get used to it.
by EastKekistan » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:47 pm
by Solarist VZ » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:48 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:48 pm
Thermodolia wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:It wouldn't be the end of the world and you would get used to it.
There’s 600 million guns in the US according to conservative estimates. Other estimates put the number around 900 million.
That’s roughly 1.5 to almost 3 guns per person in the US. There is no way in hell that you could ban guns in the US. Not to mention that many Americans would literally die to keep their guns
by East Ustya » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:49 pm
by Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:49 pm
Solarist VZ wrote:1. Crime rate increases as criminals realize their victims cannot defend themselves anymore.
2. The US economy has a serious contraction, as the industries based around the gun-culture lose their money (and if there's something the Elite on Washington hates, it is losing cash)
3. What happends if the gun-owners say no?. There wasn't a situation on New Zealand when a gun-owner got killed by the police because giving his gun?. Expect people geting their SKSs and going SHTF at best or Waco-esque disasters at worst.
4. The Feds, specially in this rising chaos, could never grab the guns of millions of citizens (the gun-owners can live in the countryside where police presence could be little, and in red states where possibly state governments could side with the Anti-gun grabbers).
by Page » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:51 pm
by Solarist VZ » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:52 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you have a source on the New Zealand thing? I hadn't heard it.
by Arlenton » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:52 pm
Page wrote:I seriously doubt there will be total gun prohibition in America within the lifetime of anyone reading this. At most, within a few decades there may come more restrictions on magazine capacity, longer waiting periods, and a universal system for background checks.
If we are going to entertain the fantastical notion of a gun ban happening in present day America, it's definitely going to be an unpleasant and violent hypothetical. There is about one gun per person in America. If people were told to give up their firearms, tens of millions would refuse. If law enforcement tried to collect guns from the people who refused to surrender, I imagine more than 1000 law enforcement officers would be killed trying within a year. There would be domestic terrorist attacks, and while these attacks might be carried out by individuals or small groups, they would do significant damage. A total prohibition might even spark secessionist movements which may not ever win independence, but they wouldn't be a joke as they are in the real world. I also expect that several states would outright refuse to comply with federal law and that might even end up with governors and state congresses being removed by the feds which will spark even more violence and disorder.
It wouldn't be pretty.
by Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:55 pm
Page wrote:I seriously doubt there will be total gun prohibition in America within the lifetime of anyone reading this. At most, within a few decades there may come more restrictions on magazine capacity, longer waiting periods, and a universal system for background checks.
If we are going to entertain the fantastical notion of a gun ban happening in present day America, it's definitely going to be an unpleasant and violent hypothetical. There is more than one gun per person in America. If people were told to give up their firearms, tens of millions would refuse. If law enforcement tried to collect guns from the people who refused to surrender, I imagine more than 1000 law enforcement officers would be killed trying within a year. There would be domestic terrorist attacks, and while these attacks might be carried out by individuals or small groups, they would do significant damage. A total prohibition might even spark secessionist movements which may not ever win independence, but they wouldn't be a joke as they are in the real world. I also expect that several states would outright refuse to comply with federal law and that might even end up with governors and state congresses being removed by the feds which will spark even more violence and disorder.
It wouldn't be pretty.
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