Parhe wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
On the desperate point, there are “sasaeng” (sp).
Yeah, the stalking is definitely an issue.Bluelight-R006 wrote:By ‘obsessively,’ I meant always buying and spending for not that much of a reason I see why. And for the group? It’s not a bad thing. They get profit. But for whoever that is organising, and using the group as mere objects—that is, to prevent them from having a free and unmonitored life for the sake of money—, it’s not that great to see it happen.
I definitely see what you mean. If the entire system is seen as troublesome, than people should maybe boycott the entire industry to send a message to some of the labels that their behavior will not be tolerated. I just didn't agree with how the argument was originally worded, since it made it sound like buying a group's merchandise was somehow the opposite of supporting the group as a fan.Pacomia wrote:K-Pop, is, in my opinion, just soulless and hollow. I’m not sure how to explain it, it just sort of conjures up no real reaction. If someone else can explain what I’m trying to articulate better, that’d be greatly appreciated.
This is an argument I see often about pop music, but I strongly disagree that K-Pop (the thread's topic) is soulless or hollow. The artists put hundreds of hours into their work and, from what I can tell, they genuinely do care about their work. Some of them might grow to hate it over time, in large part because of the treatment from their companies, but artists in most forms begin out of passion. I guess people could try to argue that it is all theatrics, but shows like Produce 101 show how passionate a lot of trainees, even after the tough training and possible mistreatment, are about making music and dancing. As for deep music, there are plenty of meaningful K-Pop songs. In two seconds of thinking, half the things by Epik High, for one, "Don't Look At Me Like That" by Song Jieun, 10cm's "Help," and a lot of early work by BTS. It is just that the international community cares less about deep music, despite almost everyone complaining about how hollow modern music is. Like I mentioned earlier, BTS used to focus more on serious and personal songs when they debuted, but they were not making money. BTS only really blew up once their focus shifted towards party songs and singing about how good they are: people may claim they want music with deeper meaning and vulnerability, but money talks.
IIRC, “Far Away”, by Suga, talks about depression and suicide and why you shouldn’t lose hope. Supposedly it is based on his own experience with crippling anxiety and depression. I however do not know which BTS era that song belongs to.
I’ve listened to them a few times, but I must admit that I, first they’re not my cup of tea (I’m not really a KPop fan), and second, I don’t listen to some of their songs for finding much meaning. Only to pass the time, listen to something light.
