'Manspreading chair' and men's boundaries

[Katganistan]

Careful. Apparently saying that is hostility.

Well, we wouldn't want to be hostile, would we? After all, we aren't mods. If we're obnoxious ideologues, people can actually ignore us.

If you feel I have broken any rules, please link to it in moderation and ask that it be reviewed rather than, once again, attacking me and not what I've written.

[Ors Might]

Please provide evidence that most man spreading is men taking up two to three seats, if you would.

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

So if most men aren’t doing this, then there isn’t a widespread problem.

[Saint Arsenio]

Please provide evidence that most man spreading is men taking up two to three seats, if you would.

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

That's one guy in one picture, and nobody looks squished or crowded to me. Even still, his actions don't define the rest of us.

[Scomagia]

Please provide evidence that most man spreading is men taking up two to three seats, if you would.

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

[Katganistan]

Quit being hostile, you know very will she proved that with those 5 pictures she posted earlier in the thread.

None of them were taking up two or three seats, though. They were being jerks, but they weren't taking up space like that.

I suggest you go back and look at the pictures. That was precisely the point, that they were taking up that much space.

[Valentine Z]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

[Garner Industrial State]

1: You said it a quote ago
1.5: It’s called a deconstruction
2: there is a thing called an inference
3: no one is omniscient

1) Show me where in

Except only one person has done that.

I said

Apparently a belief can’t be held unless it’s announced word for word

1.5) What?

2) Inferences can be incorrect, and don't be shocked when people call you out on a lack of evidence for your inference. For example, your inference that me saying "only one person expressed that belief" somehow means "Nobody can hold said belief unless it's announced word for word", which is incorrect, evidenceless and has promptly been burned as the strawman it is.

3) So you can't prove that any of us hold that belief. What's the point of bringing up that belief in the first place then when only one person has ever been shown to hold said belief, and only after you brought up said belief?

1:just because you dont say it doesnt mean you dont think it
1.5:deconstruction is looking at something piece by piece, and i happen to disagree with most elements
2:inferences can also be right sometimes
3:you tried to bring it up

[Highever]

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

[Saint Arsenio]

None of them were taking up two or three seats, though. They were being jerks, but they weren't taking up space like that.

I suggest you go back and look at the pictures. That was precisely the point, that they were taking up that much space.

The picture you provided above shows a Man taking up a few seats, sure, but nobody looks squished to me.

[Ors Might]

1) Show me where in

Except only one person has done that.

I said

Apparently a belief can’t be held unless it’s announced word for word

1.5) What?

2) Inferences can be incorrect, and don't be shocked when people call you out on a lack of evidence for your inference. For example, your inference that me saying "only one person expressed that belief" somehow means "Nobody can hold said belief unless it's announced word for word", which is incorrect, evidenceless and has promptly been burned as the strawman it is.

3) So you can't prove that any of us hold that belief. What's the point of bringing up that belief in the first place then when only one person has ever been shown to hold said belief, and only after you brought up said belief?

1:just because you dont say it doesnt mean you dont think it
1.5:deconstruction is looking at something piece by piece, and i happen to disagree with most elements
2:inferences can also be right sometimes
3:you tried to bring it up

You haven’t provided evidence of them thinking it though.

[Highever]

None of them were taking up two or three seats, though. They were being jerks, but they weren't taking up space like that.

I suggest you go back and look at the pictures. That was precisely the point, that they were taking up that much space.

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

[Scomagia]

Well, we wouldn't want to be hostile, would we? After all, we aren't mods. If we're obnoxious ideologues, people can actually ignore us.

If you feel I have broken any rules, please link to it in moderation and ask that it be reviewed rather than, once again, attacking me and not what I've written.

Well, the rules are a little different for you now, aren't they?

And I wasn't attacking you. I was attacking the substance of your writing. It's clear as day, babe. Not hard to understand. Your posts are ridiculously hostile and then you project that hostility onto others.

[Scomagia]

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

Yes.

[Katganistan]

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

So if most men aren’t doing this, then there isn’t a widespread problem.

LOL, great pun.

[Saint Arsenio]

If you feel I have broken any rules, please link to it in moderation and ask that it be reviewed rather than, once again, attacking me and not what I've written.

Well, the rules are a little different for you now, aren't they?

And I wasn't attacking you. I was attacking the substance of your writing. It's clear as day, babe. Not hard to understand. Your posts are ridiculously hostile and then you project that hostility onto others.

Well said.

[Ors Might]

So if most men aren’t doing this, then there isn’t a widespread problem.

LOL, great pun.

..I swear to god I didn’t intend that one.

[Scomagia]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

Of course its exagerrated, it's a staged shot.

[Valentine Z]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

Of course its exagerrated, it's a staged shot.

Ahh... good to know, then.

[Katganistan]

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

That's one guy in one picture, and nobody looks squished or crowded to me. Even still, his actions don't define the rest of us.

Again, did I say MOST?
You seem to keep arguing about your PERCEPTION of what I said, not what I ACTUALLY did.

[Highever]

That's one guy in one picture, and nobody looks squished or crowded to me. Even still, his actions don't define the rest of us.

Again, did I say MOST?
You seem to keep arguing about your PERCEPTION of what I said, not what I ACTUALLY did.

It is quite frustrating when people do that, isn't it?

[Estanglia]

1) Show me where in

Except only one person has done that.

I said

Apparently a belief can’t be held unless it’s announced word for word

1.5) What?

2) Inferences can be incorrect, and don't be shocked when people call you out on a lack of evidence for your inference. For example, your inference that me saying "only one person expressed that belief" somehow means "Nobody can hold said belief unless it's announced word for word", which is incorrect, evidenceless and has promptly been burned as the strawman it is.

3) So you can't prove that any of us hold that belief. What's the point of bringing up that belief in the first place then when only one person has ever been shown to hold said belief, and only after you brought up said belief?

1:just because you dont say it doesnt mean you dont think it
1.5:deconstruction is looking at something piece by piece, and i happen to disagree with most elements
2:inferences can also be right sometimes
3:you tried to bring it up

1) Something that you yourself have admitted is impossible to prove. So not only have I not said it, you now have to resort to statements like the one you just made as '''proof''', even though you can't use them to prove anything by your own admission (also ignoring the fact that I said 'said' not 'thought').

1.5) Most elements of what?

2) Unfortunately for you, both of yours was wrong (including your first one, which was only proven after you posted your inference).

3) Only because you originally brought it up.

[Ors Might]

That's one guy in one picture, and nobody looks squished or crowded to me. Even still, his actions don't define the rest of us.

Again, did I say MOST?
You seem to keep arguing about your PERCEPTION of what I said, not what I ACTUALLY did.

If it isn’t most, then why is this a problem? If most man spreading does not cause a problem for the most prt, theb this is a non-issue.

[Saint Arsenio]

That's one guy in one picture, and nobody looks squished or crowded to me. Even still, his actions don't define the rest of us.

Again, did I say MOST?
You seem to keep arguing about your PERCEPTION of what I said, not what I ACTUALLY did.

Did I say you said MOST?

[Highever]

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

Yes.

Truly incredible.

[Katganistan]

Did I say most? Please, link that.

In reaction to that doesn't happen, men don't take more than a little of another seat I posted this:



which, let's count together. How many seats is this fine gent taking?

Really now. Don't make arguments for me I did not make. I did say people in the 50s-60s sat in a more reasonable stance. And provided proof.

The exaggerations of what was actually posted is coming from some people, on one side, who appear to feel threatened by "please be courteous". It would be hilarious, if not so sadly indicative of the problem.

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

Please link to the place this stock photo comes from? When I googled it, it didn't have anything that mentioned it was a stock photo.