'Manspreading chair' and men's boundaries

[Valentine Z]

It's an issue that makes a mountain out of a molehill. And it's such a waste of time and money to give an award to something that is so minute, so first-world problem centric, and all-around useless.

Like many have said here, we dudes sit like that for a reason. BUT you know what else helps other than this chair? Asking nicely.

Singapore more or less does not have that issue with manspreading, but if there is no one beside me and the train is nearly empty, I "manspread". However, if it is rush hour and there are a lot of people beside me, man or woman, I would be considerate and know my space.

It feels like a problem that can be mitigated with asking nicely. "Can you, err, close your legs a little? You're in my personal space," or something would have sufficed instead of stupid chairs like these.

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On the bright side, you can sit on this chair sideways and have yourself a little armrest. Ahh, now that's an idea.

[Katganistan]

With the way our society is going, companies will probably soon buy and install chairs like that.

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

[Garner Industrial State]

Not to some other people

If you're getting 'the epitome of leftism' from 'SJWs do shit', when none of us in this thread have mentioned 'the epitome of leftism' besides you, it is you to whom SJWs do shit = the epitome of leftism, not these 'other people'.

SJWs do shit =/= the epitome of leftism.

SJWs are basically the mainstream left, so they are the epitome.

Hmm

[Highever]

It's an issue that makes a mountain out of a molehill. And it's such a waste of time and money to give an award to something that is so minute, so first-world problem centric, and all-around useless.

Like many have said here, we dudes sit like that for a reason. BUT you know what else helps other than this chair? Asking nicely.

Singapore more or less does not have that issue with manspreading, but if there is no one beside me and the train is nearly empty, I "manspread". However, if it is rush hour and there are a lot of people beside me, man or woman, I would be considerate and know my space.

It feels like a problem that can be mitigated with asking nicely. "Can you, err, close your legs a little? You're in my personal space," or something would have sufficed instead of stupid chairs like these.

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On the bright side, you can sit on this chair sideways and have yourself a little armrest. Ahh, now that's an idea.

Indeed, I think most agree that those that do this and then refuse to move when asked are assholes, and 99% of the time this can be resolved with a simple question.

[Andsed]

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

What are you talking about? No one has said that. What we have been saying is that this issue has been blown way out of proportion and that most guys only spread a little due to not wanting to squish are balls. No one has said that it is okay to take up multiple seats and force others to stand.

[Katganistan]

They're silly, but they purchased those tickets. There are assigned seats on airlines, and those are ones they entitled to use since they have purchased the right to use (or not use) them. So no one is really inconvenienced by people who want to waste money that way.

Except the people that can no longer purchase those seats.

Do you also get angry when someone's bought the last dozen doughnuts because other people can't have them?

[Caracasus]

If you have to spread yourself over more than 1 seat (which I understand is what people are talking about when they say manspreading?) or else you bruise your love spuds then yeah you kinda need to get that checked out. Could be testicular cysts or something.

Very few guys (only a few assholes) spread their legs enough to take up more than one seat. Most guys only spread enough to get a bit of relief while not taking up more than one seat. I am pretty sure manspreading refers to just guys spreading their legs in general though I could be wrong on that. It has nothing to do with any condition.

I don't doubt that a couple of numpties on the internet might have gone with yoir interpretation but pretty much every instance I have seen of people complaining has been one of the occasions where someone's taken up two seats instead of one.

[Estanglia]

If you're getting 'the epitome of leftism' from 'SJWs do shit', when none of us in this thread have mentioned 'the epitome of leftism' besides you, it is you to whom SJWs do shit = the epitome of leftism, not these 'other people'.

SJWs are basically the mainstream left, so they are the epitome.

Hmm

How unfortunate for you that that post came after your posts.

Unless you're a time traveller or the master of prediction, there is no way you intended for that post to be your evidence when it didn't exist when you made your claim.

[Kynor]

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

You act like this happens to you every day, man I'm so sorry that you're so "oppressed"

[Valentine Z]

It's an issue that makes a mountain out of a molehill. And it's such a waste of time and money to give an award to something that is so minute, so first-world problem centric, and all-around useless.

Like many have said here, we dudes sit like that for a reason. BUT you know what else helps other than this chair? Asking nicely.

Singapore more or less does not have that issue with manspreading, but if there is no one beside me and the train is nearly empty, I "manspread". However, if it is rush hour and there are a lot of people beside me, man or woman, I would be considerate and know my space.

It feels like a problem that can be mitigated with asking nicely. "Can you, err, close your legs a little? You're in my personal space," or something would have sufficed instead of stupid chairs like these.

---

On the bright side, you can sit on this chair sideways and have yourself a little armrest. Ahh, now that's an idea.

Indeed, I think most agree that those that do this and then refuse to move when asked are assholes, and 99% of the time this can be resolved with a simple question.

Yup! Dudes need to sit like that for a reason, but... we don't get a free pass just because of that. I understand that there can be invasion of personal space amongst many other if someone manspread a little too much, but... yeah, just ask (though in most cases, we will know and close back our legs).

[Ors Might]

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

Oh get off that. Men not wanting to experience pain is not the same as saying that women’s comfort doesn’t matter.

[Proctopeo]

Very few guys (only a few assholes) spread their legs enough to take up more than one seat. Most guys only spread enough to get a bit of relief while not taking up more than one seat. I am pretty sure manspreading refers to just guys spreading their legs in general though I could be wrong on that. It has nothing to do with any condition.

I don't doubt that a couple of numpties on the internet might have gone with yoir interpretation but pretty much every instance I have seen of people complaining has been one of the occasions where someone's taken up two seats instead of one.

That happens far more often with bags than with sitting styles.

[Andsed]

Very few guys (only a few assholes) spread their legs enough to take up more than one seat. Most guys only spread enough to get a bit of relief while not taking up more than one seat. I am pretty sure manspreading refers to just guys spreading their legs in general though I could be wrong on that. It has nothing to do with any condition.

I don't doubt that a couple of numpties on the internet might have gone with yoir interpretation but pretty much every instance I have seen of people complaining has been one of the occasions where someone's taken up two seats instead of one.

Huh. Well if manspreading is just taking up two seats than yeah I agree that is a douchey thing to do with little justification. Though it does seem like guys who do that are a small minority which makes this kinda of a non issue in my mind.

[The South Falls]

I propose we do away with sitting. As Marx postulated in Das Kapital, the very cell of capitalism is the exploitation of workers. One of the items workers toil to create? Yep, chairs. Therefore, hand stands and crawls, the true proletariat way to rest oneself, should be ushered in as the golden age of the revolution.

[Fasma]

The reason why men separate their legs when sitting is because they have larger external genitalia. This design is misandrist and is clearly aimed at emasculating males. That being said on public transit, people should try to take up as little space as comfort allows. This design reminds me of anti-homeless measures, like armrests in the middle of benches.

[Ors Might]

Except the people that can no longer purchase those seats.

Do you also get angry when someone's bought the last dozen doughnuts because other people can't have them?

If they intend to eat them all by themself, I am going to think of them as a fat and gluttonous bastard.

[Tornado Queendom]

SJWs do shit =/= the epitome of leftism.

SJWs are basically the mainstream left, so they are the epitome.

That's what most of them tend to be, and the old leftist narrative of the JFK and Bill Clinton days has become far-right to much of the current left. Meanwhile, those same leftists think that the far left doesn't exist. That's like saying that Australia doesn't exist! The SJW fad needs to die off, because it's just the left-wing equivalent of Evangelical Christianity.

[Caracasus]

I don't doubt that a couple of numpties on the internet might have gone with yoir interpretation but pretty much every instance I have seen of people complaining has been one of the occasions where someone's taken up two seats instead of one.

That happens far more often with bags than with sitting styles.

Yeah people being nobs on public transport is annoying, however I am reasonably sure I was talking about this manspreading thing?

[Valentine Z]

I propose we do away with sitting. As Marx postulated in Das Kapital, the very cell of capitalism is the exploitation of workers. One of the items workers toil to create? Yep, chairs. Therefore, hand stands and crawls, the true proletariat way to rest oneself, should be ushered in as the golden age of the revolution.

You have my... STANDING ovation on the matter.

[Saint Arsenio]

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

Nobody ever said it's only men's comfort that matters. I feel like you're trying to make it come off as that, just so you can come off as correct. Stop doing that. Not one person said it's only Men's comfort that matters, you're the only one who's said that. Don't try and make us look like bad guys, because not all of us do it. If this came off as hostile, it's not.

[Proctopeo]

That usually is the case, tbh. Public transportation is meant to be convenient, not comfortable.

Men will sometimes spread a few inches into neighboring seats. Get over it.

If a woman can femspread with all of her shopping bags then I can at least spread my legs.

Don't touch me with your disgusting sweaty thighs and knees. It's etiquette to maybe not be an extreme dick about it, though judging from this post I see you struggle with understanding how not to be a rampaging douche all the time.

"don't make me uncomfortable by sitting comfortably! sit uncomfortably so I'm comfortable! also fuck you"

[Estanglia]

Then, we boycott until they recognize that we like to be comfortable too.

It's not comfy for women to be squeezed into a triangle because fellows want to take up so much space. TRUST me. I've got off with my legs aching from being jammed against the metal end of the bench and someone's legs shoving mine seven inches to the left or right.

But hey, it's only men's comfort that matters.
That's the point of this entire thread.

It ain't and it's not.

Except the people that can no longer purchase those seats.

Do you also get angry when someone's bought the last dozen doughnuts because other people can't have them?

If they promptly decide to waste those doughnuts, yes.

[Valentine Z]

Also this thread is moving alarmingly rapidly. I only took a few seconds to type, and there are already 5-6 posts. Nothing wrong, but just an observation.

[Ors Might]

I propose we do away with sitting. As Marx postulated in Das Kapital, the very cell of capitalism is the exploitation of workers. One of the items workers toil to create? Yep, chairs. Therefore, hand stands and crawls, the true proletariat way to rest oneself, should be ushered in as the golden age of the revolution.

I have to stand for several hours at a time. Marx can kiss the whitest prt of my ass with that nonsense.

[Garner Industrial State]

How unfortunate for you that that post came after your posts.

Unless you're a time traveller or the master of prediction, there is no way you intended for that post to be your evidence when it didn't exist when you made your claim.

I merely said it was the mindset of some in the thread, and someone confirmed that.