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What's your take on manspreading?

It's necessary due to the physiological nature of men, and should be incentivized.
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I don't think it should be incentivized, but it's definitely okay to leg spread, even on crowded places.
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Manspreading is objectively bad and men should mind their own space when sitting around women.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:12 am

Ors Might wrote:
Kynor wrote:Best comeback

Post weak material, get weak response.

This. I ain't going to be scholarly in response to what can be called a shitpost.

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Postby Tornado Queendom » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:12 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:I... have no words for that. For those not wanting to read the whole thing (although it's fairly short), a British artist named Laila Laurel created gendered chairs with the purpose to stop manspreading as part of her final-year graduation project, and briefly after a design organization awarded her creation with the Belmond Award. This is how they look like...

Now, as even the proper artist denotes, I hope that's not to be taken seriously by anyone, although it does make me wonder about whether 'manspreading' can be even considered relevant -- and, if so, if any legal action (cf. NYPD) should be taken. My two cents on the matter are that men spreading their legs reasonably is not only natural as well as it should be encouraged: testicles tend to hang out of the body for the purpose of cooling as they work optimally below the natural body temperature, and squeezing their space (sitting tightly or crossing legs too often) not only is oftentimes a painful experience, as well as it can go to the extent of stunting the effectiveness of testosterone production, as well as decreased fertility and worse semen quality. Now, the unfortunate issue is that public transport is usually crowded, so even 'normal spreading' (say, occupying the space of 1.5 person) might seem exaggerated -- making men subject to criticism by women, even though their gonadal health depends on it.

What do you think though, NSG? Is manspreading unacceptable at any degree, is it okay for men to spread their legs or should it be further incentivized to guarantee higher hormonal and fertile performance?

It's one thing to call Manspreading bad etiquette (which is not what I'd recommend), but actually BANNING it opens up a whole new can of worms. If the SJW ideology wins, Manspreading in the future will be like Marijuana today: people will be calling to legalize it and say that it's completely safe (which it is).
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:12 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette

Remember when it was rude to demand that men smother their balls?
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:13 am

Katganistan wrote:
Highever wrote:I am pretty sure that if the bus is full and someone is refusing to move and making a scene out of it they will be made to leave the bus anyway. That is already a thing that happens.

Now I know you don't ride NYC Transit regularly. They actually had to put up signs on all trains and buses telling people that assaulting drivers conductors, and MTA workers is a felony punishable by 7 years in prison.

http://www.mta.info/news-bus-train-subw ... ll-go-jail

http://www.twulocal100.org/story/transi ... ies-needed

Think about why that would be necessary.


Ok, and what do you want to do about these violent seat-hogs?
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:13 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette


I don't recall it having ever stopped being so.

Unless UK commuters are unusually kind and/or socially awkward, in my experience people tend to make room for you if they are taking some of yours when you come and sit down.
If they don't, a simple "excuse me, can you give me some more room?" seems to work most of the time.

Which is one of the many reasons why I find manspreading to be something blown hugely out of proportion.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:14 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette

It still is. And again ¨manspreading¨ usually does not take up that much space.
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Postby Kynor » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:14 am

Katganistan wrote:
Highever wrote:I am pretty sure that if the bus is full and someone is refusing to move and making a scene out of it they will be made to leave the bus anyway. That is already a thing that happens.

Now I know you don't ride NYC Transit regularly. They actually had to put up signs on all trains and buses telling people that assaulting drivers conductors, and MTA workers is a felony punishable by 7 years in prison.

http://www.mta.info/news-bus-train-subw ... ll-go-jail

http://www.twulocal100.org/story/transi ... ies-needed

Think about why that would be necessary.

In what part of NYC do you even live in
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:15 am

Estanglia wrote:
Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette


I don't recall it having ever stopped being so.

Unless UK commuters are unusually kind and/or socially awkward, in my experience people tend to make room for you if they are taking some of yours when you come and sit down.
If they don't, a simple "excuse me, can you give me some more room?" seems to work most of the time.

Which is one of the many reasons why I find manspreading to be something blown hugely out of proportion.

We need to start measuring oppression by how far a man spreads his legs.
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For example, how much oppression per inch of spread is this?
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:15 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette

Remember when it was rude to demand that men smother their balls?

Yeah, I remember.
Now, many SJWs want this completely banned. Besides, banning Manspreading would be like how marijuana was banned: some people would celebrate, but most would want it legalized. I don't know any other way that it could end up other than total tyranny.
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Postby Garner Industrial State » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:15 am

Ors Might wrote:
Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette

It still is. Now its also proper ettiequte to not force someone to experience unnecessary pain when it’s convenient for you.

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Postby Caracasus » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 am

Saint Arsenio wrote:
Garner Industrial State wrote:Remember when making room for other people was considered proper etiquette

So was caring about others' comfortableness.


Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It still is. Now its also proper ettiequte to not force someone to experience unnecessary pain when it’s convenient for you.

Y’all guys are calling an art house project the epitome of leftism

As a leftist, no I ain’t.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It still is. Now its also proper ettiequte to not force someone to experience unnecessary pain when it’s convenient for you.

Y’all guys are calling an art house project the epitome of leftism


What?

This literally has no bearing on Ors' post.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:17 am

Caracasus wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:So was caring about others' comfortableness.


Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

Or maybe because it hurts to squish your balls? I know crazy concept.

Also reminder. Those who manspread are usually not taking up two seats. It is only a few jerks who do.
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Postby Kynor » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:17 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It still is. Now its also proper ettiequte to not force someone to experience unnecessary pain when it’s convenient for you.

Y’all guys are calling an art house project the epitome of leftism

No one has even said shot about leftism until you brought it up
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Postby Ors Might » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:18 am

Caracasus wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:So was caring about others' comfortableness.


Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

Listen, I got dummy thicc thighs. Just walking the wrong way in the wrong kind of pants can cause me occasional pain.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:18 am

Caracasus wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:So was caring about others' comfortableness.


Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

All people don't take up more than 1 seat is what I'm trying to get across. You can't say that all of us do it, simply because a few jerks do it.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:19 am

Saint Arsenio wrote:
The South Falls wrote:dont use those gendered terms. "kind" is better. :p

Nah, but I feel as though the term entitled seems a little overused these days.

Man, as in "Man-kind." Not Man as in Males.

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Postby Nova Cyberia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:19 am

Caracasus wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:So was caring about others' comfortableness.


Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

That usually is the case, tbh. Public transportation is meant to be convenient, not comfortable.

Men will sometimes spread a few inches into neighboring seats. Get over it.

If a woman can femspread with all of her shopping bags then I can at least spread my legs.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:20 am

Andsed wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

Or maybe because it hurts to squish your balls? I know crazy concept.

Seriously, how thicc are you guys that you can't sit normally in a chair without going falsetto? I ain't a slim guy but I've never squished myself into infertility just taking a seat.

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Postby Garner Industrial State » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:21 am

Kynor wrote:
Garner Industrial State wrote:Y’all guys are calling an art house project the epitome of leftism

No one has even said shot about leftism until you brought it up

“SJW”s have been brought up quite a lot in this thread
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Postby Andsed » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:21 am

Alvecia wrote:
Andsed wrote:Or maybe because it hurts to squish your balls? I know crazy concept.

Seriously, how thicc are you guys that you can't sit normally in a chair without going falsetto? I ain't a slim guy but I've never squished myself into infertility just taking a seat.

You don´t need to be to have thick thighs for it be uncomfortable to fucking squish your balls and need to spread your legs a little bit.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:21 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:
Kynor wrote:No one has even said shot about leftism until you brought it up

“SJW”s have been brought up quite a lot in this thread


SJWs do shit =/= the epitome of leftism.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:22 am

Highever wrote:
Katganistan wrote: A lot wider, Highever. And I've been nothing but polite while people are being quite hostile.

Is this necessary?

Did I ever say that no one ever manspreads or that they never take up too much space? No? Then your selected pic spam is pointless and irrelevant.

Yes, sometimes people are assholes and do in fact conform to the evil manspreader ideal. These people are, as mentioned, assholes.

Is spamming massive pictures in large numbers and not spoiling them necessary?

More hostility. And goal-post moving.
You're the one who says it doesn't happen. And six pictures non-framebreaking pictures over two different posts is hardly "massive pictures in large numbers".

Why so angry? Because your attempts to brush off what I am saying as unreasonable or untrue are absolutely failing in a very public way?

You, and the other men who have responded with sarcasm, vitriol and name-calling are doing a better job at proving that this self-centered, entitled behavior is a problem than any ONE WORD I posted.

Good job.
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:22 am

Garner Industrial State wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It still is. Now its also proper ettiequte to not force someone to experience unnecessary pain when it’s convenient for you.

Y’all guys are calling an art house project the epitome of leftism

I'm a leftist too. Unfortunately, I have balls.
Nova Cyberia wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
Thing is though, if you can't sit comfortably in one seat then either you have some kind of medical problem or whatever shithole company runs public transport has crammed in far too many seats.

That usually is the case, tbh. Public transportation is meant to be convenient, not comfortable.

Men will sometimes spread a few inches into neighboring seats. Get over it.

If a woman can femspread with all of her shopping bangs then I can at least spread my legs.

Another reason for communism. Bread from bread lines can be carried by hand, and shopping is, of course, pigdog bourgeoisie fare, and therefore the practice of femspreading will finally come to an abrupt end.
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