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Berkley to cease using gendered language like "manhole"

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Should other cities remove gendered words from their vocabulary too?

Of course. 'Manhole' is an inherently offensive term.
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No. I like my gendered words the way they are.
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Quarantine Berkley.
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Postby Cappuccina » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:57 pm

Communal concils wrote:I see that the Conservatives are triggered over something that is insignificant.

What's the point of complaining ?

It's retarded and doesn't help anything, renaming things that already have names for no reason.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Question: Who is actually harmed by this decision?

Or is this just conservatives looking for excuses to have the vapours over?

I mean, taxpayers are a little bit, but even then, it's so spread out it's probably not worth caring about overmuch.

Yeah. It's dumb. But it's nothing. It's a dumb nothing.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I see that the Conservatives are triggered over something that is insignificant.

What's the point of complaining ?

It's retarded and doesn't help anything, renaming things that already have names for no reason.


It doesn't help anything but it doesn't hurt anything either.

At best this is a fun thing to poke fun and laugh at, unless you have a weird attachment to the official usage of the term "manhole"
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Postby Purgatio » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Scomagia wrote:

We are making the same point.


Sorry I meant to respond to the guy you responded to but forgot to delete your reply
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Postby Communal concils » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:58 pm

Vassenor wrote:Question: Who is actually harmed by this decision?

Or is this just conservatives looking for excuses to have the vapours over?



1. My status quo and traditional views are being harmed by the SJW man haters, think of my foolish colleagues ? :eek:


2. The answer for the second question is exactly that !
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:59 pm

Kowani wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Question: Who is actually harmed by this decision?

Or is this just conservatives looking for excuses to have the vapours over?

It’s “Orwellian”


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Postby Partybus » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:59 pm

They thought about doing this in the late 70's early 80's Just check your "her"story...

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:00 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Question: Who is actually harmed by this decision?

Or is this just conservatives looking for excuses to have the vapours over?



1. My status quo and traditional views are being harmed by the SJW man haters, think of my foolish colleagues ? :eek:


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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:00 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:It’s “Orwellian”


Oh hey. Who is our enemy today?

East Asia.
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Postby Communal concils » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:00 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Communal concils wrote:I see that the Conservatives are triggered over something that is insignificant.

What's the point of complaining ?

It's retarded and doesn't help anything, renaming things that already have names for no reason.



However, it is as useless to care about it.

Your better of talking about more serious issues like liberal economic policies or poverty .
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Postby Galloism » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, taxpayers are a little bit, but even then, it's so spread out it's probably not worth caring about overmuch.

Yeah. It's dumb. But it's nothing. It's a dumb nothing.

It's definitely a thing that rounds down to zero.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Purgatio wrote:
Liriena wrote:Yes, I get it. It's a smear. You're using Marxism as a smear word.


I don't see what's the big deal with wanting to draw attention to the lessons of history

"Marxism bad so liberalism also bad" is not "drawing lessons from history". It's garbled, manipulative nonsense.

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Postby Communal concils » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:It's retarded and doesn't help anything, renaming things that already have names for no reason.


It doesn't help anything but it doesn't hurt anything either.

At best this is a fun thing to poke fun and laugh at, unless you have a weird attachment to the official usage of the term "manhole"



Manhole reminds me too much of certain parts of biology .
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh hey. Who is our enemy today?

East Asia. Eurasia

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Postby Tombradyonia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Communal concils wrote:I see that the Conservatives are triggered over something that is insignificant.

What's the point of complaining ?


Isn't it funny that for people who continuously say 'snowflake' and 'f**k your feelings' they just about are the group with the thinnest skins and most easily triggered?

Just go on some social media and say that compulsive liar Donald Trump is a compulsive liar, you'll soon witness the mass triggering and irate right wing snowflakes, especially when some 'celebrity' is the one saying it.
And the icing on that cakes is that their leader, Donald Trump is the snowflakiest snowflake of all, most easily triggered.
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Postby Communal concils » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

1. My status quo and traditional views are being harmed by the SJW man haters, think of my foolish colleagues ? :eek:


Don't worry. We all hate you.



Nice ?
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Galloism wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Yeah. It's dumb. But it's nothing. It's a dumb nothing.

It's definitely a thing that rounds down to zero.

Of all the things that have happened, this is one of them

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Postby Purgatio » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Purgatio wrote:
I don't see what's the big deal with wanting to draw attention to the lessons of history

"Marxism bad so liberalism also bad" is not "drawing lessons from history". It's garbled, manipulative nonsense.

Do better.


Literally not what I said, its your strawman version of my argument
Purgatio is an absolutist hereditary monarchy run as a one-party fascist dictatorship, which seized power in a sudden and abrupt coup d'état of 1987-1988, on an authoritarian eugenic and socially Darwinistic political philosophy and ideology, now ruled and dominated with a brutal iron fist under the watchful reign of Le Grand Roi Chalon-Arlay de la Fayette and La Grande Reine Geneviève de la Fayette (née Aumont) (i.e., the 'Founding Couple' or Le Couple Fondateur).

For a domestic Purgation 'propagandist' view of its role in the world, see: An Introduction to Purgatio.

And for a more 'objective' international perspective on Purgatio's history, culture, and politics, see: A Brief Overview of the History, Politics, and Culture of Le Royaume du Nettoyage de la Purgatio.

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:03 pm

Won't affect my life, I don't live in Berkeley, nor do I have to deal with reading their municipal codes. And even if it did, they're not forcing the public to use it for all areas of life: they're just going to use it for their internal regulations.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:03 pm

Galloism wrote:
Page wrote:
Yeah, how is that? How is someone harmed by being made aware of content so they can decide whether or not they want that content on their mind at the moment?


Galloism wrote:I mean, according to a recent harvard study, probably yes.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... lp-or-harm



Hmm. It does say that this study was conducted on the general public, not with people with PTSD. I'm also seeing a potential flaw with it simply giving a vague warning that could mean absolutely anything, which could lead the mind to make worse assumptions than are actually valid, rather than specifically describing what content is being warned for.
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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:03 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's definitely a thing that rounds down to zero.

Of all the things that have happened, this is one of them

And that's really all there is to say.
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Postby Camelone » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:04 pm

Kowani wrote:
Camelone wrote:A little weird to me but interesting nonetheless.

English has something similar, although not quite the same.

Are you referring to the Webster Dictionary?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:05 pm

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Kowani wrote:English has something similar, although not quite the same.

Are you referring to the Webster Dictionary?

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Postby Scomagia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:05 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Galloism wrote:


Hmm. It does say that this study was conducted on the general public, not with people with PTSD. I'm also seeing a potential flaw with it simply giving a vague warning that could mean absolutely anything, which could lead the mind to make worse assumptions than are actually valid, rather than specifically describing what content is being warned for.

Gallo's source aside, trigger warnings are contrary to accepted protocols for anxiety disorders. No therapist worth a damn is going to tell you to avoid the causes of anxiety and panic unless they are trying to ruin you.
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