West Palm Beach plays "Baby Shark" on repeat

[Pacomia]

I live in a large city known for its homeless problem. I see very little of what you've described. I think you have a very small sample size of the homeless population and are regarding that as an accurate depiction of the global homeless population. I know that over here, the largest problem with the homeless is all the needles they're leaving around everywhere.

I've been here for three years and these people are swarming everywhere, literally almost every street I see them crawling about. I think I've gathered a large enough representative sample size to form an informed opinion about these parasites.

I've been here for seven. I see homeless people around my neighbourhood and adjacent neighbourhoods, and they don't really cause those problems. Sure, there's the occasional theft and petty crime, and occasionally they're sleeping in your driveway, but that's just part of life. Maybe I'm just desensitised to it, but I don't see it as a large problem. I also don't live in a prestigious rich area. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you sound like you might be somebody from a rich area, who has now moved to a different place with more homelessness, and aren't used to it.

[Scomagia]

I live in a large city known for its homeless problem. I see very little of what you've described. I think you have a very small sample size of the homeless population and are regarding that as an accurate depiction of the global homeless population. I know that over here, the largest problem with the homeless is all the needles they're leaving around everywhere.

I've been here for three years and these people are swarming everywhere, literally almost every street I see them crawling about. I think I've gathered a large enough representative sample size to form an informed opinion about these parasites.

Calling them parasites is excessive.

[Purgatio]

I've been here for three years and these people are swarming everywhere, literally almost every street I see them crawling about. I think I've gathered a large enough representative sample size to form an informed opinion about these parasites.

I've been here for seven. I see homeless people around my neighbourhood and adjacent neighbourhoods, and they don't really cause those problems. Sure, there's the occasional theft and petty crime, and occasionally they're sleeping in your driveway, but that's just part of life. Maybe I'm just desensitised to it, but I don't see it as a large problem. I also don't live in a prestigious rich area. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you sound like you might be somebody from a rich area, who has now moved to a different place with more homelessness, and aren't used to it.

I'll admit the neighbourhood I live in in Singapore might not have the most affordable housing prices, but I don't think anyone's socioeconomic status has any bearing on their ability to form a sound opinion on a real public problem and concern. I'm clearly not the only one. Oxford City Council passed a series of anti-vagrancy and anti-homeless legislation because voters here are increasingly-irritated about the problem. So at the very least its not just me who is getting annoyed.

[Purgatio]

I've been here for three years and these people are swarming everywhere, literally almost every street I see them crawling about. I think I've gathered a large enough representative sample size to form an informed opinion about these parasites.

Calling them parasites is excessive.

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

[Pacomia]

Hey, my first thread that's been accused of being trolled! Congratulations, me! It's a great week for Pacomia- first a moderator talked to me, and now my thread is being trolled, apparently! I guess i wouldn't call it trolling, but still.

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[Purgatio]

Always fun to see the lengths people will go to to avoid seeing poverty.

People want to avoid getting harassed, pestered, exposed to noxious smells and poor hygiene, tripping over trash and litter left on the pavement, fearing theft or assault from vagrants, loitering and trespassing on private property. This has nothing to do with hiding poverty and everything to do with cleaning up the streets of a real public nuisance and menace.

[Andsed]

Calling them parasites is excessive.

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

People who have nothing and are desperate and in need of compassion and help?

[Pacomia]

I've been here for seven. I see homeless people around my neighbourhood and adjacent neighbourhoods, and they don't really cause those problems. Sure, there's the occasional theft and petty crime, and occasionally they're sleeping in your driveway, but that's just part of life. Maybe I'm just desensitised to it, but I don't see it as a large problem. I also don't live in a prestigious rich area. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you sound like you might be somebody from a rich area, who has now moved to a different place with more homelessness, and aren't used to it.

I'll admit the neighbourhood I live in in Singapore might not have the most affordable housing prices, but I don't think anyone's socioeconomic status has any bearing on their ability to form a sound opinion on a real public problem and concern. I'm clearly not the only one. Oxford City Council passed a series of anti-vagrancy and anti-homeless legislation because voters here are increasingly-irritated about the problem. So at the very least its not just me who is getting annoyed.

Wouldn't you agree that blaring "Baby Shark" is crossing a line of some sort, though? Especially considering that it definitely won't work as intended?

[Purgatio]

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

People who have nothing and are desperate and in need of compassion and help?

People who are annoying busy pedestrians trying to focus and get to work or school or university without getting harassed and pestered along the way.

[Liriena]

Trying to solve homelessness by being annoying dicks to the homeless.

If this is not quintessential American culture, I don't know what is.

[Purgatio]

I'll admit the neighbourhood I live in in Singapore might not have the most affordable housing prices, but I don't think anyone's socioeconomic status has any bearing on their ability to form a sound opinion on a real public problem and concern. I'm clearly not the only one. Oxford City Council passed a series of anti-vagrancy and anti-homeless legislation because voters here are increasingly-irritated about the problem. So at the very least its not just me who is getting annoyed.

Wouldn't you agree that blaring "Baby Shark" is crossing a line of some sort, though? Especially considering that it definitely won't work as intended?

If it didn't work then that's a separate issue. There are other ways to solve the problem. Anti-homeless legislation is very effective, passing laws banning unauthorised encampments and loitering in certain public spaces can help clear the streets of these people. Or, installing hostile architecture works too.

[Pacomia]

People who have nothing and are desperate and in need of compassion and help?

People who are annoying busy pedestrians trying to focus and get to work or school or university without getting harassed and pestered along the way.

oH nO, i'M bEiNg MiNoRlY iNcOnVeNiEnCeD! wHaTeVeR sHaLl I dO?

[Valrifell]

A concept: instead of investing money and brain-calories into driving the homeless away, why not try to alleviate the causes of homelessness or build more shelters?

[Scomagia]

Calling them parasites is excessive.

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

Now you're painting too broadly. Some live off panhandling. Panhandling is perfectly fine. I ask you for money, you say yea or nay. Aggressive panhandling and harassment are wrong.

In the case of non aggressive panhandlers, it isn't parasitism. I spanged from time to time as a kid. I was never rude or intimidating and I stayed away from businesses. I don't see an issue.

[Liriena]

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

People who have nothing and are desperate and in need of compassion and help?

But they make me uncomfortable for, like, five seconds a day.

[Purgatio]

People who are annoying busy pedestrians trying to focus and get to work or school or university without getting harassed and pestered along the way.

oH nO, i'M bEiNg MiNoRlY iNcOnVeNiEnCeD! wHaTeVeR sHaLl I dO?

Minor? I was once trying to get to class and this irritating guy kept asking me for change, even after I said no. You don't call that a nuisance?

[Andsed]

People who have nothing and are desperate and in need of compassion and help?

People who are annoying busy pedestrians trying to focus and get to work or school or university without getting harassed and pestered along the way.

Yes because how dare these people who have nothing and have been forced to resort to begging slightly inconvenience some people. Dude do you have any compassion for those in need?

[Pacomia]

A concept: instead of investing money and brain-calories into driving the homeless away, why not try to alleviate the causes of homelessness or build more shelters?

That's good advice for everywhere, not just West Palm Beach.

[Purgatio]

They live off panhandling and harassing people who earn money. What do you call that?

Now you're painting too broadly. Some live off panhandling. Panhandling is perfectly fine. I ask you for money, you say yea or nay. Aggressive panhandling and harassment are wrong.

In the case of non aggressive panhandlers, it isn't parasitism. I spanged from time to time as a kid. I was never rude or intimidating and I stayed away from businesses. I don't see an issue.

I wasn't criticising panhandling specifically but the homeless do irritate me because many of them engage in harassment and aggressive panhandling and it is unfair to everyone else to have them around on public spaces and public streets.

[Pacomia]

oH nO, i'M bEiNg MiNoRlY iNcOnVeNiEnCeD! wHaTeVeR sHaLl I dO?

Minor? I was once trying to get to class and this irritating guy kept asking me for change, even after I said no. You don't call that a nuisance?

Maybe, but I'd say it's minor.

[Scomagia]

A concept: instead of investing money and brain-calories into driving the homeless away, why not try to alleviate the causes of homelessness or build more shelters?

One thing is cheap and easily implemented. The other is not.

As I've said before, those chastising the city for not ending homelessness need to put up the city budget and show where the money is going to come from.

[Andsed]

oH nO, i'M bEiNg MiNoRlY iNcOnVeNiEnCeD! wHaTeVeR sHaLl I dO?

Minor? I was once trying to get to class and this irritating guy kept asking me for change, even after I said no. You don't call that a nuisance?

Was he blocking your path or being aggressive? If not than yeah that is pretty minor. Suck it up because that ¨parasite¨ has it much worse than you.

Now you're painting too broadly. Some live off panhandling. Panhandling is perfectly fine. I ask you for money, you say yea or nay. Aggressive panhandling and harassment are wrong.

In the case of non aggressive panhandlers, it isn't parasitism. I spanged from time to time as a kid. I was never rude or intimidating and I stayed away from businesses. I don't see an issue.

I wasn't criticising panhandling specifically but the homeless do irritate me because many of them engage in harassment and aggressive panhandling and it is unfair to everyone else to have them around on public spaces and public streets.

And where exactly do you want them to go? They don´t have a home you know.

[Purgatio]

People who are annoying busy pedestrians trying to focus and get to work or school or university without getting harassed and pestered along the way.

Yes because how dare these people who have nothing and have been forced to resort to begging slightly inconvenience some people. Dude do you have any compassion for those in need?

If I'm busy and I'm trying to get to class or get to an internship I want to be able to get there without being stopped by people asking for change, is that too much to ask? I want to get somewhere and I want to get there without being bothered by strangers.

[Scomagia]

Minor? I was once trying to get to class and this irritating guy kept asking me for change, even after I said no. You don't call that a nuisance?

Maybe, but I'd say it's minor.

I wouldn't. I'd call it criminal harassment and poor spanging etiquette.

[Purgatio]

Minor? I was once trying to get to class and this irritating guy kept asking me for change, even after I said no. You don't call that a nuisance?

Was he blocking your path or being aggressive? If not than yeah that is pretty minor. Suck it up because that ¨parasite¨ has it much worse than you.

I wasn't criticising panhandling specifically but the homeless do irritate me because many of them engage in harassment and aggressive panhandling and it is unfair to everyone else to have them around on public spaces and public streets.

And where exactly do you want them to go?

Anywhere, just leave public spaces and public areas so they can stop annoying me and everyone else. And how do you know he has it worse than me? You don't know my life or his.