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Postby Lillorainen » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:59 am

North German Realm wrote:(Responding to both) Not very surprising to be honest. I'd compare the Norse history of "fixing the invasive culture" to that of Iranians regarding Arab, and later Turk and Mongol invading cultures in its efficiency. Neither could manage to keep the old culture going completely, but both did force the invading culture to change itself for their victims.

Makes absolutely sense. For a successful takeover in a region, one often needs to adopt a few particularities of local culture - one could also compared it to Spain or Italy having some differences in traditions compared to, say, Croatia or Hungary, despite being Catholic. And similarly, German particularities may even vary from region to region, a good example being the maypole, another Germanic tradition still well alive in many areas, such as NRW, my home state. And even in here, there are differences, with the large one put up in the center of a village or town in the Westphalian part, and with smaller ones put up in front of the house of a person you love in the Rhenish part.
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This is now a Polytheism thread by virtue of our continued posting. :twisted:


This is what being culturally taken over must feel like. :D
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Postby Risottia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:35 pm

Cydalia wrote:Catholic gang here


bro imagine actually being pagan in 2019


stop posting cringe bro

I guess a Muslim could say
"Muslim gang here, bro imagine actually being christian in 1440, stop posting cringe bro".
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:05 pm

While not a pagan, I've always found merit in the idea that the Protestant Reformation was a bit of a return to the more naturally Germanic form of Christianity that existed in Northern Europe prior to Charlemagne. The early Northern European church was really quite distinct from the faith of Rome.

I wonder how much pagan influence there was in Christianity at the time of the Anglo-Saxon conquest.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:06 pm

Cydalia wrote:Catholic gang here


bro imagine actually being pagan in 2019


stop posting cringe bro


Imagine actually being a papist in 2019
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Postby Giovenith » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:20 pm

I used to be pretty into it, mostly the Northern Tradition Shamanism interpretations. I still have my copy of The Jotunbok. I'm an atheist/anti-theist now, but I still have a lot of fondness for the Norse myths and their modern followers (well... you know, the non-white supremacist ones.)
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Postby First American Empire » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:34 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Cydalia wrote:Catholic gang here


bro imagine actually being pagan in 2019


stop posting cringe bro


Imagine actually being a papist in 2019


Imagine being a Pagan in 2910 instead. Much more awesome.
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First American Empire wrote:
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Imagine actually being a papist in 2019


Imagine being a Pagan in 2910 instead. Much more awesome.


I agree.
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Postby Giovenith » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:41 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Imagine actually being a papist in 2019


Imagine being a Pagan in 2910 instead. Much more awesome.


Considering the current rate of Abrahamic membership, also more likely than not.
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Postby Lillorainen » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:42 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Imagine actually being a papist in 2019


Imagine being a Pagan in 2910 instead. Much more awesome.

I agree. I'd be 917 years old by that date. I imagine myself as a guy still visiting pubs, drinking beer and mead, and share the awesome load of wisdom I'll have with everyone who doesn't want to hear it. That's gonna be cool! ^^
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:06 pm

First American Empire wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
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Imagine being a Pagan in 2910 instead. Much more awesome.


By that time we likely know a little more about how things run. And also, SPACE.

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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:16 pm

Cydalia wrote:Catholic gang here


bro imagine actually being pagan in 2019


stop posting cringe bro


A neo-reactionary seriously using the current year argument...
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Postby Giovenith » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:23 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Cydalia wrote:Catholic gang here


bro imagine actually being pagan in 2019


stop posting cringe bro


A neo-reactionary seriously using the current year argument...


Martin Luther and Henry VIII are laughing in the grave.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:52 pm

Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?
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Postby North German Realm » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Grenartia wrote:Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?

There are a number of temples. I think the last one I heard open was in Iceland, but don't quote me on that.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:39 pm

Grenartia wrote:Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?


Personal home shrine for me.
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Postby First American Empire » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:12 am

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Grenartia wrote:Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?


Personal home shrine for me.


Me too, but this is mainly due to a lack of temples. I'd go to one if it were an option.
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Postby Lillorainen » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:27 am

North German Realm wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?

There are a number of temples. I think the last one I heard open was in Iceland, but don't quote me on that.

Any chance you mean the this one? It's currently under construction, but ceremonies have already taken place there. Other than that, there is also a heathen hof in Denmark, and several organizations are planning to open/dedicate more of these. A common place of worship in Germany would also be the Externsteine - not exactly a temple, but still with a historical and spiritual meaning.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:58 am

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Grenartia wrote:Nonpagan here with a question. Are there any pagan houses of worship yall go to, or do you just gather in someone's house somewhere?


Personal home shrine for me.


Based and Pagan pilled.

Considering it too.

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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:02 am

If you aren't a folkish pagan, you are a LARP and probably don't understand paganism of the Indo-European variety in the first place
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Postby Nakena » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:03 am

Hatterleigh wrote:If you aren't a folkish pagan, you are a LARP and probably don't understand paganism of the Indo-European variety in the first place


Elaborate.

You got to have to bring a little more than such a blanket statement here.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:04 am

Hatterleigh wrote:If you aren't a folkish pagan, you are a LARP and probably don't understand paganism of the Indo-European variety in the first place


Folkish paganism has literally no basis in historical fact lol
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:05 am

Hatterleigh wrote:If you aren't a folkish pagan, you are a LARP and probably don't understand paganism of the Indo-European variety in the first place

That sounds ahistorical and something some "race scientist" in late 19th century would pull out of his ass but ok
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:09 am

The only truly viable pagans are those that take the overarching ideas of giant groups of religions, for the norse and greeks, the overarching themes in Indo-European religions like reincarnation, certain types of gods, veneration of ancestors, veneration of war, horse and cow holy stuff, ancestral twins, that sort of stuff. Norse Paganism, Greek Paganism, are just evolutions of the same religion both characterized by isolation and influence from pre-IE groups living in the area or other peoples who interacted with them. The role pantheons of pagan peoples plays is for an origin narrative.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:10 am

North German Realm wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:If you aren't a folkish pagan, you are a LARP and probably don't understand paganism of the Indo-European variety in the first place

That sounds ahistorical and something some "race scientist" in late 19th century would pull out of his ass but ok

This has nothing to do with race as a science, it's a spiritual thing. Unlike christianity, you don't go to eternal hell for not being part of the pagan cults.
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Postby North German Realm » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:12 am

Hatterleigh wrote:
North German Realm wrote:That sounds ahistorical and something some "race scientist" in late 19th century would pull out of his ass but ok

This has nothing to do with race as a science, it's a spiritual thing. Unlike christianity, you don't go to eternal hell for not being part of the pagan cults.

True as that may be, it's irrelevant to what you stated in your first post. "Folkish Paganism" was literally something a bunch of racist antisemites came up with in late 19th century to oppose muh Jewish Christianity and has no basis in actual, recorded history.
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