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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:27 am

NERVUN wrote:some of the victims have been burned beyond recognition

This gets me every time.

I'm now a tiny bit nauseated and mostly grieving. Death by fire is easily one of the most terrible things to happen to anybody.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:28 am

Gigaverse wrote:
NERVUN wrote:some of the victims have been burned beyond recognition

This gets me every time.

I'm now a tiny bit nauseated and mostly grieving. Death by fire is easily one of the most terrible things to happen to anybody.

And to think a few 4channers on /pol/ are celebrating this... Why tho
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Postby NERVUN » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:29 am

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NERVUN wrote:Um... that's not what it said, only that some of the victims have been burned beyond recognition, not that they ALL have.

The rest, which cannot be identifies. And by some families, I meant the families of those ‘some’ people that were burnt beyond recognition. Wasn’t implying all were burnt so badly they can’t be recognised.

No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:30 am

NERVUN wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:The rest, which cannot be identifies. And by some families, I meant the families of those ‘some’ people that were burnt beyond recognition. Wasn’t implying all were burnt so badly they can’t be recognised.

No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.

Yes, yes. Still, doesn't invalidate the point here. Those victims suffered cruel deaths. No one can deny that
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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:30 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:/pol/

the answer's in the question
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:31 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:/pol/

the answer's in the question

B-But I go on there too...
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:31 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:This gets me every time.

I'm now a tiny bit nauseated and mostly grieving. Death by fire is easily one of the most terrible things to happen to anybody.

And to think a few 4channers on /pol/ are celebrating this... Why tho

Celebrating this on a public social media site? That’s messed up, also dumb because their reputation can easily be ruined.

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Bluelight-R006 wrote:The rest, which cannot be identifies. And by some families, I meant the families of those ‘some’ people that were burnt beyond recognition. Wasn’t implying all were burnt so badly they can’t be recognised.

No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.

And yet you said that some of the victims are burnt beyond recognition, so I go by that, not to mention that there are bound to be some victims that are burnt so badly they couldn’t be recognised. But thanks for clarifying part of it.

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Postby NERVUN » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:32 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:This gets me every time.

I'm now a tiny bit nauseated and mostly grieving. Death by fire is easily one of the most terrible things to happen to anybody.

And to think a few 4channers on /pol/ are celebrating this... Why tho

There's always some people...
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:34 am

Bluelight-R006 wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:And to think a few 4channers on /pol/ are celebrating this... Why tho

Celebrating this on a public social media site? That’s messed up, also dumb because their reputation can easily be ruined.

NERVUN wrote:No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.

And yet you said that some of the victims are burnt beyond recognition, so I go by that, not to mention that there are bound to be some victims that are burnt so badly they couldn’t be recognised. But thanks for clarifying part of it.

On phone, too lazy to edit quote, but... 4chan is anonymous. Lmao
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Postby NERVUN » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:34 am

Bluelight-R006 wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:And to think a few 4channers on /pol/ are celebrating this... Why tho

Celebrating this on a public social media site? That’s messed up, also dumb because their reputation can easily be ruined.

NERVUN wrote:No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.

And yet you said that some of the victims are burnt beyond recognition, so I go by that, not to mention that there are bound to be some victims that are burnt so badly they couldn’t be recognised. But thanks for clarifying part of it.

Yes, some have been. That's why they are using DNA to identify them. Last look at NHK doesn't have anyone stating that they will be unable to identify all of the victims, eventually.
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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:34 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:the answer's in the question

B-But I go on there too...

Not anything against you, but it has a reputation of being a cesspool for morbid ideologues. I wouldn't put it past them to be apologetic for such despicable ideas.
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Postby NERVUN » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:35 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
NERVUN wrote:No, no. the quote is "NHK reported on Saturday through an interview with a relative of a victim that the relative was told on Friday that police will need to conduct DNA testing to identify some of the victims, and that testing will take up to a week." SOME of the victims can only be ID'd by DNA, that doesn't mean the rest cannot be. Just that SOME of them have to be identified that way.

Yes, yes. Still, doesn't invalidate the point here. Those victims suffered cruel deaths. No one can deny that

Definitely not, no.
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:40 am

NERVUN wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Celebrating this on a public social media site? That’s messed up, also dumb because their reputation can easily be ruined.


And yet you said that some of the victims are burnt beyond recognition, so I go by that, not to mention that there are bound to be some victims that are burnt so badly they couldn’t be recognised. But thanks for clarifying part of it.

Yes, some have been. That's why they are using DNA to identify them. Last look at NHK doesn't have anyone stating that they will be unable to identify all of the victims, eventually.

How sad.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:51 am

I didn't know people actually died. Jesus Christ this is like a full scale terrorist attack
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 am

Nakena wrote:I am wondering what the fire protection and alarm regulations in Japan are. (fire sprinklers etc)


The perp set all the exit points on fire. Most regulations do not cover such wanton acts of malice.
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:54 am

Rojava Free State wrote:I didn't know people actually died. Jesus Christ this is like a full scale terrorist attack

It is a full scale terrorist attack. I was shocked when I first heard of the amount of deaths (in the first report I saw: 26 deaths). If only they had added more emergency exits and thought about their designs...

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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:11 am

This is shocking. Its troubling. Its horrible. I had thought it was some kind of accident but knowing there was a deliberate perpetrator behind it is sickening.

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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:18 am

https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/11 ... 6842711046
update from Kyoto Animation president Hatta to press: “Another employee has passed away. There are employees among the seriously injured that have had to amputate their legs.”

This just keeps getting better, doesn't it.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:21 am

Somebody burnt it down for copyright infringement

Why not just sue them?! Imagine the movies lost because of someone thinking they're pirated!
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:26 am

Gigaverse wrote:https://twitter.com/soukatsu_/status/1152403736842711046
update from Kyoto Animation president Hatta to press: “Another employee has passed away. There are employees among the seriously injured that have had to amputate their legs.”

This just keeps getting better, doesn't it.


I'm genuinely disgusted. There are certain things that seem too cruel to be real but human brutality knows no boundaries.

If you haven't felt anything yet, consider the following. These were people's spouses, brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, maybe even grandparents for all we know. Don't imagine that one of your loved ones died. IMagine that they died in this horrific of a way or even worse that you went to the hospital to visit them and saw them in this broken of a state. It isn't just statistics folks. somebody's loved ones are either dead or in intense suffering now and it's driving people insane with sorrow. 4chan is disgusting for making fun of this, I can't believe them
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:33 am

Greed and Death wrote:
Nakena wrote:I am wondering what the fire protection and alarm regulations in Japan are. (fire sprinklers etc)


The perp set all the exit points on fire. Most regulations do not cover such wanton acts of malice.

He didn't actually. Most of the victims died in the stairwell because the roof access was locked, not because it was on fire.
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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:48 am

OK apparently the additional casualty was the earlier 34th, as I haven't seen any additional news on a 35th and I'd much prefer it that way, but for this now I'm getting reminded of the grim reality of the consequences of being burned alive.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:52 am

Gigaverse wrote:OK apparently the additional casualty was the earlier 34th, as I haven't seen any additional news on a 35th and I'd much prefer it that way, but for this now I'm getting reminded of the grim reality of the consequences of being burned alive.


:( :( God I feel nauseated

One thing I always stress is that no matter how many mass killings you see on TV, no matter how much violence you become aware of, never become desensitized. Be angry, be upset, just feel something. Because once you feel nothing, you've lost your humanity and it's next to impossible to get it back
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Postby Gigaverse » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:19 am

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Postby Bienenhalde » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:21 am

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The loss of innocent life and creative work is certainly terrible, but the building itself does not seem like anything very special to me.

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