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Postby Whole Conviction » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:08 am

Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?
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Postby Self--Esteem » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:09 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.


You get to vote for Saddam Hussein, so you have the right to vote.

Saddam is one man.

Men/women are each around 50% of the population.


There are actually more men.

It's about 48% women, 52% men.

Not that it would matter. Numbers don't count much, since not everyone is attracted to everyone.


Numbers don't matter much indeed.

Hence, your post is a waste of screen.


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Oh, you don't care about what you post.

Well, then you won't mind me telling you that your irrelvant numbers are wrong, then, will you ?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... /2018.html

My apologies if you live in American Samoa.


I care about what I post. I simply don't care about you trying to dictate my writing.

As for the sex-ratio, mind telling me what American Samoa has to do with a worldwide sex-ratio?

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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:13 am

Whole Conviction wrote:Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose?


Uggh...did you mean to throw a not in there as, according to that sentence, I have the right to marry one gender and am free to marry the either...I don't see the problem.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:19 am

Self--Esteem wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Phenia wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.


You get to vote for Saddam Hussein, so you have the right to vote.

Saddam is one man.

Men/women are each around 50% of the population.


There are actually more men.

It's about 48% women, 52% men.

Not that it would matter. Numbers don't count much, since not everyone is attracted to everyone.


Numbers don't matter much indeed.

Hence, your post is a waste of screen.


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Oh, you don't care about what you post.

Well, then you won't mind me telling you that your irrelvant numbers are wrong, then, will you ?

https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... /2018.html

My apologies if you live in American Samoa.


I care about what I post. I simply don't care about you trying to dictate my writing.

As for the sex-ratio, mind telling me what American Samoa has to do with a worldwide sex-ratio?


American Samoa has approximately the ratio you claimed.

Here, the source I assumed you had consulted before giving figures:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... _sex_ratio

1.01 men per woman (world average, all ages) is 50.5 % men, 49.5 % women.

So yeah, more men than women.

Take India, Pakistan and China out of the picture, it would be the other way around.

Are you comfortable with that ?

And anyway, what was your point? Other than to "correct" another poster with wrong information ?
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Postby Whole Conviction » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:20 am

Scarsaw wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose?


Uggh...did you mean to throw a not in there as, according to that sentence, I have the right to marry one gender and am free to marry the either...I don't see the problem.

No, it's quite correct. Read it again in context of the hypothetical. Perhaps it would be clearer if I said 'would you argue that you SHOULD have the right to marry a woman'
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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:25 am

Whole Conviction wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose?


Uggh...did you mean to throw a not in there as, according to that sentence, I have the right to marry one gender and am free to marry the either...I don't see the problem.

No, it's quite correct. Read it again in context of the hypothetical. Perhaps it would be clearer if I said 'would you argue that you SHOULD have the right to marry a woman'


Oh I got it now. I must have over looked the "would YOU say."
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:35 am

Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?
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Postby Tekania » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:35 am

The general gist here, is much like the miscegenationists did not view discrimination based upon race as "wrong", ant-SSM persons do not view discrimination based upon sexual-orientation wrong.... It's the larger context of innate human bigotry surfacing in the context of human society. This is one of the contexts where federal power must be used to punish state sanctioned bigotry which has been continued through the perversion of republican democracy.
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Postby Sith Korriban » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:38 am

Parthenon wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?

Cute fixation you've got there. How have you managed to be on the internet this long without realising there are gay guys who don't do anal sex? It's not the only way for them.

Also, hetero couples can have anal sex.

And if you want to be even cleaner there's lesbian sex, and the absence of hideous wobbly penises. :p
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:39 am

Parthenon wrote:Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?


Heterosexuals never engage in anal sex? I recall a thread about heterosexual Anal queens and butt-rats. What the hell does the cleanliness of anal sex have to do with anything?

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Postby Phenia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:41 am

Parthenon wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?


No.

Seriously, where did you ever get anything about anal or vaginal intercourse from what he said? Am I just not reading the same forum you are or what?

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:42 am

Parthenon wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?


Disgusting =/= unclean.

Also, way to pick one word out of a hypothetical and pretend that it is the whole point of the post.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:44 am

Phenia wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?


No.

Seriously, where did you ever get anything about anal or vaginal intercourse from what he said? Am I just not reading the same forum you are or what?


It's the one word "disgusting".

I certainly got Whole Convictions point. Perhaps because I wasn't determined to miss it.

IF homosexual intercourse was the norm, there would be many homosexuals who considered the major alternative "disgusting". Would they be right ?
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Postby YDKJMF » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:46 am

I don't think gay marriage is the problem we face, the real problem is procreation.
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:47 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:IF homosexual intercourse was the norm, there would be many homosexuals who considered the major alternative "disgusting". Would they be right ?


What do you mean if? There already are many homosexuals who consider the major alternative disgusting.

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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:48 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Disgusting =/= unclean.

Also, way to pick one word out of a hypothetical and pretend that it is the whole point of the post.


Has nothing to do with disgusting or not; anal intercourse is less sanitary than vaginal intercourse: "Anal sex exposes participants to two principal dangers: infections, due to the high number of infectious microorganisms not found elsewhere on the body, and physical damage to the anus and the rectum due to their vulnerability."
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Postby Scarsaw » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:49 am

Tech-gnosis wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:IF homosexual intercourse was the norm, there would be many homosexuals who considered the major alternative "disgusting". Would they be right ?


What do you mean if? There already are many homosexuals who consider the major alternative disgusting.


What he means is that if everyone was homosexual, than vaginal sex would seem disgusting since it is against the norm.
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Postby Tekania » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:51 am

YDKJMF wrote:I don't think gay marriage is the problem we face, the real problem is procreation.


Well, we don't have a problem with procreation... Procreation seems to be working just fine.... Thought there seems to be way too much of it.
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Postby Phenia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:52 am

Scarsaw wrote:
Tech-gnosis wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:IF homosexual intercourse was the norm, there would be many homosexuals who considered the major alternative "disgusting". Would they be right ?


What do you mean if? There already are many homosexuals who consider the major alternative disgusting.


What he means is that if everyone was homosexual, than vaginal sex would seem disgusting since it is against the norm.


If everyone was homosexual, at least half the population would have almost nothing but vaginal sex!

P.S. Women can be homosexual, too. True story.

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Postby YDKJMF » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:52 am

We need to kill certain people when they get to be a certain age or if they have a liability.
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:52 am

Scarsaw wrote:What he means is that if everyone was homosexual, than vaginal sex would seem disgusting since it is against the norm.


What he meant was if the majority was homosexual it would seem disgusting by many homosexuals. What I'm saying is that many homosexuals already find it disgusting.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:53 am

YDKJMF wrote:We need to kill certain people when they get to be a certain age or if they have a liability.

Care to expand on that a little? Which people?
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Postby Whole Conviction » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:54 am

Parthenon wrote:
Whole Conviction wrote:
Parthenon wrote:A gay man has the right to marry a woman, just as a lesbian has the right to marry a man.

A beautiful false choice.

Let's say something odd happened at some point in history. IVF was developed 1000 years back, allowing for procreation without sex. Some other fuddling happened in the timestream, and everything went a bit Greek. As a result, same-sex marriage is the ONLY legal marriage, and children are handled without any disgusting heterosexual sex. Ew.

Are you happy? Would you say that you have the right to marry a woman if you want, despite being free to marry any man you choose? Or would that be an unjust restriction on your personal freedoms?


Are you honestly suggesting that anal sex is cleaner than vaginal intercourse?

Would you rather eat food that fell on the stove, or food that fell on the toilet seat? Would your answer change if I told you that there are fewer -- and less dangerous -- germs on toilet seats than stoves? Probably not. Wouldn't for most poeple. 'disgusting' is cultural.

And way to dodge the question.
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Postby YDKJMF » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:55 am

If you're over the age of 65 you should be put to death. If you have a disease that makes you a liability, you should be put to death.
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Postby Tech-gnosis » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:56 am

YDKJMF wrote:If you're over the age of 65 you should be put to death. If you have a disease that makes you a liability, you should be put to death.


What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

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