Should homosexuals have the right to marry?

[Euroslav WA Mission]

The slippery slope arguments are right!! Talk about gay marriage long enough and our kids end up with ribbon tied around their genitalia and prancing around Neverland or a church altar!

The more important question being, why not both?

[Setebuhza]

Gay marriage is allowed in nations as diverse as Canada and Mexico, and neither have experienced any particular problems.

Have you forgotten the horrors of Canada's decent into anarchy when gay marriage caused the country to be attacked by time traveling gorillas riding cybernetic dinosaurs?



Oh, wait, that didn't happen. You're right no problems caused by gay marriage.

Actually, if you look at countries that have gay marriage, such as Canada, they weathered this economic crisis fairly well. Clearly, god loves fags.

socialist countrys have been known to have better recovery against economic problems, but that system also has its own problems. Socialist: a car slowing down for a stop sign : Capitalist: Car hitting the breaks at a stop sign. Both usually survive but the socialist dosn't get hit as bad, but as i said the socialist style has its own problems.

If you honestly think Canada is a socialist country you either
a) Don't know what socialism is.
b) Don't know a thing about Canada.

Which is it?

Sorry, I didn't mean there entirely socialist but they have socialist qualitys, dosn't make them evil or anything. Sorry you took such offense to that.

I stand by my statement. There's a huge difference between a social democracy. The existence of crown corporations and medicare do not = socialism.

Meanwhile: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... -2011.html

Either way, I stand by my point. Canada's recent economic success (their dollar is stronger than the US's) is a sign that god loves gay people.

[Ottoleo]

Ottoleo: I wouldn't worry. It all turned out ok.

Errr...what?

[Nobel Hobos]

The slippery slope arguments are right!! Talk about gay marriage long enough and our kids end up with ribbon tied around their genitalia and prancing around Neverland or a church altar!

Now that's a little far-fetched...

Ban gay marriage and ban pink and red ribbon!

We must ban blue ribbons too. Gender roles sexualize children!

Off-duty strippers wanting to educate child strippers in personal adornment should only be allowed to use yellow ribbon. Or maybe sparkly. Maybe.

[Steffenville]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

[North Calaveras]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

^^ if so, then you do not have the right to marry either

[Desperate Measures]

Ottoleo: I wouldn't worry. It all turned out ok.

Errr...what?

Try as I might, I am unable to answer your simple question.

[Nobel Hobos]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

I can laugh at this, because I don't live in "this Republic". But please consider how offensive your factually-incorrect statement could be to other US Americans.

It might seem to them that your ignorance casts them into a bad light too. Apparently, their education system has failed to teach you much about the founding of the Republic.

[Ottoleo]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

^^ if so, then you do not have the right to marry either

Explain before accusing.

And to Steffenville, all men are created equal, correct? Then why should homosexuals not share and enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals? And besides, this is a different time. Different measures.

[Desperate Measures]

The slippery slope arguments are right!! Talk about gay marriage long enough and our kids end up with ribbon tied around their genitalia and prancing around Neverland or a church altar!

Now that's a little far-fetched...

Ban gay marriage and ban pink and red ribbon!

We must ban blue ribbons too. Gender roles sexualize children!

Off-duty strippers wanting to educate child strippers in personal adornment should only be allowed to use yellow ribbon. Or maybe sparkly. Maybe.

Blue ribbon is indeed hideous when placed on pre-pubescent genitalia but I didn't include it because I didn't think anybody would attempt such travesty.

[North Calaveras]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

^^ if so, then you do not have the right to marry either

Explain before accusing.

And to Steffenville, all men are created equal, correct? Then why should homosexuals not share and enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals? And besides, this is a different time. Different measures.

he said that there is no right to marriage in the constitution, well if he can use that against homosexuals cannot the same be said to christians? his view not mine.

[Tmutarakhan]

This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation.

The only mention of religion in the original constitution was in Article VI, "No religious test shall ever be required for public office," and of course the First Amendment reaffirmed that the government is separate from religion.

"The United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion." Treaty of Tripoli, negotiated under the Washington Administration, signed by John Adams

[Ottoleo]

All your positions supporting gay marriage are flawed. At least in this country. This Republic was founded as a Christian Nation. If you don't like that then you always free to leave and go to some enlightened nation. If you feel persecuted you can always become a modern day pilgrim and find your own Mayflower. No more conjecture, show me in the Constitution where you have the right to marriage.

^^ if so, then you do not have the right to marry either

Explain before accusing.

And to Steffenville, all men are created equal, correct? Then why should homosexuals not share and enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals? And besides, this is a different time. Different measures.

he said that there is no right to marriage in the constitution, well if he can use that against homosexuals cannot the same be said to christians? his view not mine.

He was implying homosexual marriage.

But his argument is flawed anyways...I have read the constitution and find no such basis. However, it is nonetheless prohibited by law.

[Nobel Hobos]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

[North Calaveras]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

[Nobel Hobos]

Ottoleo: I wouldn't worry. It all turned out ok.

Errr...what?

I think DM means that it "turned out OK" because you are grasping that the post you replied to was a joke. You are grasping that, aren't you ?

I know it's a bit confusing when a poster makes a serious and argumentative post, and then their next post is completely silly and just for fun. But get used to it; it helps to keep everyone from getting too angry and flaming each other.

[WWII History Geeks]

In every state that has allowed gay marriage, when a vote was taken the gay marriage was abolished. How about that for rights?

[Nobel Hobos]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

[Ottoleo]

Ottoleo: I wouldn't worry. It all turned out ok.

Errr...what?

I think DM means that it "turned out OK" because you are grasping that the post you replied to was a joke. You are grasping that, aren't you ?

I know it's a bit confusing when a poster makes a serious and argumentative post, and then their next post is completely silly and just for fun. But get used to it; it helps to keep everyone from getting too angry and flaming each other.

Thanks. I feel like such a n00b.

[North Calaveras]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

yes to the top and to the pregnant part, that's just silly were not talking about babys lol, were talking about two people that love eachother forming a union to eachother. Id like to point out again that christians don't get to define what marriage is.

[WWII History Geeks]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

Yeah. There should be COMPLETE EQUALITY among EVERYONE. So women should have penises and men vaginas. And everyone should be the same age all the time, and all look the same, and earn the same amount of money, and act...you get the point.

[North Calaveras]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

Yeah. There should be COMPLETE EQUALITY among EVERYONE. So women should have penises and men vaginas. And everyone should be the same age all the time, and all look the same, and earn the same amount of money, and act...you get the point.

i didn't say that, perhaps right wasn't the right word, I just believe if your going to allow two adults marry, why descriminate against the sex of the person?

[Redwulf]

I can barely believe StA is doing the "if I was wrong my feelings would be hurt so you're just as intolerant and bigoted as you say I am for denying gay marriage rights!" defense.

Indeed. You're not a bigot if you're a bigot against bigots, because a bigot bigot can't be a bigot because a bigot doesn't hate bigots.

Or as I once put it I admit that I'm racistist and homophobiphobic.

[WWII History Geeks]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

Yeah. There should be COMPLETE EQUALITY among EVERYONE. So women should have penises and men vaginas. And everyone should be the same age all the time, and all look the same, and earn the same amount of money, and act...you get the point.

i didn't say that, perhaps right wasn't the right word, I just believe if your going to allow two adults marry, why descriminate against the sex of the person?

Because some things aren't naturally right, as I'm sure you observed above in my little rant. And I certainly don't want my children viewing two teenage lusty homosexuals making out in the park. No siree, I have a BIG problem with that.

[North Calaveras]

how many times do i have to say this?

Feel free to stop, any time.

Its about equality under the law, idk why these good-law abiding christians can't see this. We aren't going to force you to do marrages lol.

It may come as a shock to you, but the debate is not just going to stop because YOU express an opinion.

To save you from having to repeat yourself any more: explain what equality under the law is all about please.

well you don't give one group of citizens a right that can't be shared by another group of the same citizens

The "same" citizens meaning citizens of the same country ?

We may allow women the right to get pregnant. But that right can't be shared by men. Problem ?

Yeah. There should be COMPLETE EQUALITY among EVERYONE. So women should have penises and men vaginas. And everyone should be the same age all the time, and all look the same, and earn the same amount of money, and act...you get the point.

i didn't say that, perhaps right wasn't the right word, I just believe if your going to allow two adults marry, why descriminate against the sex of the person?

Because some things aren't naturally right, as I'm sure you observed above in my little rant. And I certainly don't want my children viewing two teenage lusty homosexuals making out in the park. No siree, I have a BIG problem with that.

People see lots of things that they may not like, Porn, other religions, gays(as you think), politcal partys, don't look at them then, and if you don't want your children to see them, then tell them to cover there eyes or something lol.