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Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pm**

EastKekistan wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:It's quite inherently racist towards non Jews in Israel, atleast under the current regime.

That is, it is a normal ethnostate like Japan. OK.

Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:When you're accusing Jews of hypnotizing others and calling upon old stereotypes, yes.

No it isnt. Israel does have America hypnotized and anyone focusing on that word is trying to deflect from the crimes Israel has committed against humanity

Or maybe they just don't find anti-Semitism to be acceptable from a congresswoman.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:What's wrong with Zionism?

Ask lebanon, Palestine, Syria and egypt. Apparently Jews have a right to sovereignty but the neighboring Arab nations are ripe for invading at any time.

I don't think that's inherently a part of Zionism. That's Israeli imperialism.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:28 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
ECKU wrote:Except she was talking about the Zionist state and AIPAC, not Jewish people as a whole.

According to AIPAC and other zionists, that is criticism of all Jews and literally will cause the holocaust to immediately happen again. They're worried that if too many people criticize israel, Americans will literally elect a Nazi to be president

Just kidding, that's a bunch of dog shit. They're scared of Americans no longer caring and turning their back on israel, leaving it without its largest donor and defenseless. They're scared of losing control

Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:29 pm**

ECKU wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, she was talking about the Jewish state and using anti-Semitic stereotypes in doing so.

No she wasn't. Calling out the Jewish state for effing with another country is not wrong at all.

Even when it invokes old anti-Semitic stereotypes of Jews?

Maybe your sig is a lie after all.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:29 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
No it isnt. Israel does have America hypnotized and anyone focusing on that word is trying to deflect from the crimes Israel has committed against humanity

Or maybe they just don't find anti-Semitism to be acceptable from a congresswoman.

She isn't being antisemitic. She called Israel out for killing civilians and manipulating our country into doing its bidding. If that's antisemitic then the ADL needs to shut down it's database of white supremacist groups. After all, criticizing any ethnic group for anything it does is racist

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:29 pm**

Kvatchdom wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:That is, it is a normal ethnostate like Japan. OK.

Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

Neither does Israel, in point of fact.

Arabs compromise a large minority in Israel and are afforded the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:30 pm**

ECKU wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
According to AIPAC and other zionists, that is criticism of all Jews and literally will cause the holocaust to immediately happen again. They're worried that if too many people criticize israel, Americans will literally elect a Nazi to be president

Just kidding, that's a bunch of dog shit. They're scared of Americans no longer caring and turning their back on israel, leaving it without its largest donor and defenseless. They're scared of losing control

Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

Where shall Jews go then?

Palestinism does have its own merits though. If you look up the census data from British Mandate of Palestine you will find that population almost everywhere was mostly Arab.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:30 pm**

EastKekistan wrote:
ECKU wrote:Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

Where shall Jews go then?

Palestinism does have its own merits though.

The US, most likely.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:30 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Or maybe they just don't find anti-Semitism to be acceptable from a congresswoman.

She isn't being antisemitic. She called Israel out for killing civilians and manipulating our country into doing its bidding. If that's antisemitic then the ADL needs to shut down it's database of white supremacist groups. After all, criticizing any ethnic group for anything it does is racist

Or maybe you could just criticize them without using anti-Semitic stereotypes that have been around for centuries.

Either Omar is a tone-deaf idiot or she's an anti-Semite.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:30 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
ECKU wrote:No she wasn't. Calling out the Jewish state for effing with another country is not wrong at all.

Even when it invokes old anti-Semitic stereotypes of Jews?

It wasn't at Jews.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:31 pm**

ECKU wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
According to AIPAC and other zionists, that is criticism of all Jews and literally will cause the holocaust to immediately happen again. They're worried that if too many people criticize israel, Americans will literally elect a Nazi to be president

Just kidding, that's a bunch of dog shit. They're scared of Americans no longer caring and turning their back on israel, leaving it without its largest donor and defenseless. They're scared of losing control

Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

In reality Israel is there to stay and it needs to be contained and monitored. In my idea world, I would be putting many of its citizens on boats back to Europe and the only people who would be allowed to stay would be Jews who were there before 1948. Anyone else would have to legally immigrate there through official channels.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:31 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

Neither does Israel, in point of fact.

Arabs compromise a large minority in Israel and are afforded the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

Netanyahu just a while ago declared it a nation for Jews.

And no, arab schools as one point fare much worse than Jewish ones.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44881554

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:31 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
She isn't being antisemitic. She called Israel out for killing civilians and manipulating our country into doing its bidding. If that's antisemitic then the ADL needs to shut down it's database of white supremacist groups. After all, criticizing any ethnic group for anything it does is racist

Or maybe you could just criticize them without using anti-Semitic stereotypes that have been around for centuries.

Either Omar is a tone-deaf idiot or she's an anti-Semite.

Or zionists are desperate to guilt trip everyone into continuing to support Israel and use "antisemite" as a word to silence criticism and opposition

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

Neither does Israel, in point of fact.

Arabs compromise a large minority in Israel and are afforded the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

That's a fat lie that has been debunked numerous times.

EastKekistan wrote:
ECKU wrote:Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

Where shall Jews go then?

Palestinism does have its own merits though. If you look up the census data from British Mandate of Palestine you will find that population almost everywhere was mostly Arab.

They can stay there, just don't steal someone else land and claim it as yours.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 pm**

ECKU wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Even when it invokes old anti-Semitic stereotypes of Jews?

It wasn't at Jews.

It was at the world's only Jewish state and invoked an anti-Semitic stereotype.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:32 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
ECKU wrote:Israel should die, that my take on the Zionist state. Palestine should get all its land back without 1 speck of Israeli territory.

In reality Israel is there to stay and it needs to be contained and monitored. In my idea world, I would be putting many of its citizens on boats back to Europe and the only people who would be allowed to stay would be Jews who were there before 1948. Anyone else would have to legally immigrate there through official channels.

East Europe won't want them back. One key reason why natives participated in the Holocaust is that they considered a large Jewish minority a demographic threat. That's a consequence of having nation states such as Poland.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:33 pm**

Duvniask wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:
Yes, and she does such a wonderful job representing her constituency by shitting all over the very country they reside in. What a wonderful job she's done.

Assuming her constituency had a fair understanding of her views, a majority of them, or at least the ones that voted, agree with her.

You've yet to explain why she "hates" the country so damn much, however.

You know, recognizing the faults in something is part of loving it.

And then there are people like Omar who are purely interested in its faults.

Politics is rarely about how well things are going. There's always a problem somewhere, whichever side you're on.

Ah, yes. The deflector shield has been raised once.

"All politicians suck so why are so you mad at this one sucking?"

Because the inconsistency with which you apply you anger means that you're dishonest and a partisan hack.

Honestly, judging by the amount of commies here we really didn't topple enough governments, tbh.

Really, this is your response?

Fuck off.

You just couldn't leave it, right? Had to throw in that "Fuck off." Too bad, because that gets you *** warned for flaming. ***

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:33 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

Neither does Israel, in point of fact.

Arabs compromise a large minority in Israel and are afforded the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

First off Palestinians dont. Arab Israelis who live within its boundaries can vote supposedly but the military and police is almost entirely Jewish and discrimination against Arabs is rampant. arabs also have to take a different bus than Jews and Arabs who protest against Israeli crimes can be imprisoned.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:34 pm**

Nova Cyberia wrote:
ECKU wrote:It wasn't at Jews.

It was at the world's only Jewish state and invoked an anti-Semitic stereotype.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

Yes it is. Well actually it isn't. The Zionists literally have a lobby that shills for them and convinces other nations to look the other way from its crimes.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:34 pm**

EastKekistan wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
In reality Israel is there to stay and it needs to be contained and monitored. In my idea world, I would be putting many of its citizens on boats back to Europe and the only people who would be allowed to stay would be Jews who were there before 1948. Anyone else would have to legally immigrate there through official channels.

East Europe won't want them back. One key reason why natives participated in the Holocaust is that they considered a large Jewish minority a demographic threat.

Hmm, sorta seems may be Israel should have learned from its people's past and shouldn't be oppressing people of a different ethnicity

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:35 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Neither does Israel, in point of fact.

Arabs compromise a large minority in Israel and are afforded the same rights and privileges as Jewish citizens.

First off Palestinians dont. Arab Israelis who live within its boundaries can vote supposedly but the military and police is almost entirely Jewish and discrimination against Arabs is rampant. arabs also have to take a different bus than Jews and Arabs who protest against Israeli crimes can be imprisoned.

Man, this sounds so similar to a certain bird that flew around in the 50s

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:35 pm**

ECKU wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:It was at the world's only Jewish state and invoked an anti-Semitic stereotype.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

Yes it is. Well actually it isn't. The Zionists literally have a lobby that shills for them and convinces other nations to look the other way from its crimes.

Okay, but that still doesn't make the promotion of anti-Semitic stereotypes okay.

Like, you can bitch about Israel all you want and it still won't change that fact.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:35 pm**

Rojava Free State wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:East Europe won't want them back. One key reason why natives participated in the Holocaust is that they considered a large Jewish minority a demographic threat.

Hmm, sorta seems may be Israel should have learned from its people's past and shouldn't be oppressing people of a different ethnicity

Jews have had enough. Why isn't it fair for them to get their Zion?

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:36 pm**

Kvatchdom wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:That is, it is a normal ethnostate like Japan. OK.

Japan isn't an ethnostate, it does not have laws regarding different races.

It de facto is. Not everything strictly behaves according to the laws lol.

For example if you look at the constitution of the PRC you will find that it is a democracy. LOL. Same for North Korea.

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