Trump stirs up the nativist pot (again)

[EastKekistan]

Texans are conquerors and they earned their right to own Texas by killing Mexicans and Native Americans.

The only ways to earn legitimacy are killing or joining those who currently have it. Of course the former gives you more legitimacy compared to the latter because if you join Tribe A you are actually less legit than the older A people since you joined but did not set up a society.

[EastKekistan]

Donnie has never cracked down on Willy Wonka for exploitation.

You got Ben Carson who was born into poverty and now supports programs which hurt the communities he came from, and you got Donald Trump, who has slashed taxes on Willy Wonka and turned a blind eye to his hiring of poor Bulgarian and Oompa Loompian undocumented immigrants. Shameful.

The elites are always cunning self-interest maximizers. Try to join them. Don't complain about them.

Anyone who can be inhibited by morality from killing a lot of people or doing anything else the elites indoctrinate commoners into disliking from child rape to cannibalism can not become a part of the elite.

[Tokora]

Sucks that he'll be re-elected.

Anybody have any ideas on how to prevent this? I'm open to literally any and all suggestions.

Isn't that obvious? White, Christian gold worshiping Republicans who lie about their religion and slander everything it stood for are clearly the only real Americans.

Fixed that for you.

[EastKekistan]

Sucks that he'll be re-elected.

Anybody have any ideas on how to prevent this? I'm open to literally any and all suggestions.

Isn't that obvious? White, Christian gold worshiping Republicans who lie about their religion and slander everything it stood for are clearly the only real Americans.

Fixed that for you.

You can not prevent ethnic conflicts. They tend to get worse when the economy is bad and get better when the economy improves. However they will always exist and the nation state has made it much worse than pre-French Revolution levels for it indoctrinates everyone into hating their neighbors.

[Salandriagado]

Anybody have any ideas on how to prevent this? I'm open to literally any and all suggestions.


Fixed that for you.

You can not prevent ethnic conflicts. They tend to get worse when the economy is bad and get better when the economy improves. However they will always exist and the nation state has made it much worse than pre-French Revolution levels.

Once again, you were proven entirely and completely wrong about this many pages ago. Stop repeating your stupid lies.

[Galiantus III]

English could also not be his first language. Or did you just assume his background based on the fact that he disagrees with you?

This is also not scanning, since no one mentioned that poster's background.

Munkcestrian Republic said 5 Kingdoms of Britannia's post didn't scan, then 5 Kingdoms of Britannia said his understanding of English was not so good. Rather than be civil, Munkcestrian Republic moved all the way from not understanding the post to calling 5 Kingdoms of Britannia's post bullshit. That response only makes sense if he either didn't take the time to read 5 Kingdoms of Britannia's post about his limited ability with the language, and assumes he is talking with a US native, or if he thinks someone else's lack of linguistic ability doesn't justify them posting something that isn't clear to understand. Given the context, Munkcestrian Republic should be an ally for minorities, so he must have been assuming 5 Kingdoms of Britannia is a US native.

[EastKekistan]

You can not prevent ethnic conflicts. They tend to get worse when the economy is bad and get better when the economy improves. However they will always exist and the nation state has made it much worse than pre-French Revolution levels.

Once again, you were proven entirely and completely wrong about this many pages ago. Stop repeating your stupid lies.

You can't stop organisms from subconsciously trying to harm each other. Different species have always been at war. Within a species different packs have always been at war. Within a pack different organisms have always been at war. Even within an organism cells have always been at war (e.g. the immune system, cancer). Even within a cell there are selfish genetic elements.

Defections, defections, defections everywhere. "Race" in a race war is merely an excuse. "War" and death of other people is the real goal. Same for other kinds of conflicts. People need excuses to kill other people.

[Salandriagado]

Once again, you were proven entirely and completely wrong about this many pages ago. Stop repeating your stupid lies.

You can't stop organisms from subconsciously trying to harm each other.

Doesn't happen.

Different species have always been at war.

Lie.

Within a species different packs have always been at war.

Lie.

Within a pack different organisms have always been at war.

Both a lie, and an admission that your claim is false.

Even within an organism cells have always been at war (e.g. the immune system, cancer). Even within a cell there are selfish genetic elements.

All lies.

Defections, defections, defections everywhere.

None of which have any bearing on the discussion.

[EastKekistan]

You can't stop organisms from subconsciously trying to harm each other.

Doesn't happen.

Different species have always been at war.

Lie.

Within a species different packs have always been at war.

Lie.

Within a pack different organisms have always been at war.

Both a lie, and an admission that your claim is false.

Even within an organism cells have always been at war (e.g. the immune system, cancer). Even within a cell there are selfish genetic elements.

All lies.

Defections, defections, defections everywhere.

None of which have any bearing on the discussion.

Evidence? People want other people dead. Wolves want other wolves dead. Chimpanzees want other chimpanzees dead. Everyone benefits from others getting harmed and destroyed.

[Farnhamia]

You really liken donnie to the founders? How sad.

No, I literally did not. Try again after practicing reading comprehension.

Texans are illegal immigrants, friend.

Aside from that, it's great to see the Republican Party getting back to their Know Nothing roots.

You're an ill-educated moron. Opinion discarded.

*** Warned for flaming. ***

[Salandriagado]

Doesn't happen.



Lie.



Lie.



Both a lie, and an admission that your claim is false.



All lies.



None of which have any bearing on the discussion.

Evidence?

Civilisation.

People want other people dead.

No we don't. That, in fact, has been our primary evolutionary advantage.

[quote Wolves want other wolves dead. Chimpanzees want other chimpanzees dead. [/quote]

Both lies.

Everyone benefits from others getting harmed and destroyed.

No, they don't. Cooperation works better.

[Chan Island]

Sucks that he'll be re-elected.

Anybody have any ideas on how to prevent this? I'm open to literally any and all suggestions.

Isn't that obvious? White, Christian gold worshiping Republicans who lie about their religion and slander everything it stood for are clearly the only real Americans.

Fixed that for you.

Well, I like to be nice and assume they are telling the truth when they so loudly, constantly and repeatedly proclaim the name of their religion.

[Gormwood]

You got Ben Carson who was born into poverty and now supports programs which hurt the communities he came from, and you got Donald Trump, who has slashed taxes on Willy Wonka and turned a blind eye to his hiring of poor Bulgarian and Oompa Loompian undocumented immigrants. Shameful.

The elites are always cunning self-interest maximizers. Try to join them. Don't complain about them.

Anyone who can be inhibited by morality from killing a lot of people or doing anything else the elites indoctrinate commoners into disliking from child rape to cannibalism can not become a part of the elite.

Advocating mass murder and child rape. Any edgier and you'll cut through dimensions.

[Greater Texia]

No, I literally did not. Try again after practicing reading comprehension.


You're an ill-educated moron. Opinion discarded.

*** Warned for flaming. ***

Okay, I'll be nicer. I believe that this user's post was ill-informed because it seemed to imply that my ancestors who came to settle in Texas, which was barely inhabited at the time, and who declared independence from the Mexican dictatorship that had illegally overthrown the constitutional Republic of Mexico and opened hostilities against Anglo American settlers, and who fought in the revolutionary war against said dictatorship, and who subsequently contribute to and helped build up Texas communities, are the same as modern immigrants who come into our country illegally to take advantage of what my ancestors fought and worked for while claiming to have the same rights as the American citizens whose families built this country. I believe that the poster was mistaken for making such a shamefully false equivalency.

[Duhon]

You got Ben Carson who was born into poverty and now supports programs which hurt the communities he came from, and you got Donald Trump, who has slashed taxes on Willy Wonka and turned a blind eye to his hiring of poor Bulgarian and Oompa Loompian undocumented immigrants. Shameful.

The elites are always cunning self-interest maximizers. Try to join them. Don't complain about them.

Anyone who can be inhibited by morality from killing a lot of people or doing anything else the elites indoctrinate commoners into disliking from child rape to cannibalism can not become a part of the elite.

"Leadership is about killing people" bullshit fucking again and again and again

[Farnhamia]

Mia Love. Candace Owens. Look them up.

I did. There's a picture of them next to the dictionary entry for "Uncle Tom."

*** Warned for trolling. ***

[Tobleste]

So you like him for his xenophobia and trollish behavior.

Are you trying to imply those are bad qualities? I really don't see how it's so offensive to want to care for your own countrymen and family members before foreigners.

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

[Saiwania]

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

If I had it my way, I'd have ensured that their parents or their parents' parents were never able to get US citizenship, and as a result the US would be more majority White than it is now. What a disaster the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 and onwards, proved to be.

[Duhon]

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

If I had it my way, I'd have ensured that their parents or their parents' parents were never able to get US citizenship, and as a result the US would be more majority White than it is now. What a disaster the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 and onwards, proved to be.

Go peddle your fear and darkness in hell.

[Galiantus III]

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

If I had it my way, I'd have ensured that their parents or their parents' parents were never able to get US citizenship, and as a result the US would be more majority White than it is now. What a disaster the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 and onwards, proved to be.

Oh look. An actual racist. See lefties? They brand themselves. No need to call people racists who aren't.

Skin color doesn't matter. Genetics and heritage doesn't matter. We're all people. Trump says ambiguous things because it wins him attention, but he doesn't actually do anything that is racist. White supremacists and the far left are desperate to make race the important issue.

[Gormwood]

If I had it my way, I'd have ensured that their parents or their parents' parents were never able to get US citizenship, and as a result the US would be more majority White than it is now. What a disaster the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 and onwards, proved to be.

Oh look. An actual racist. See lefties? They brand themselves. No need to call people racists who aren't.

Skin color doesn't matter. Genetics and heritage doesn't matter. We're all people. Trump says ambiguous things because it wins him attention, but he doesn't actually do anything that is racist. White supremacists and the far left are desperate to make race the important issue.

Apologists sure love to pretend Donnie was never nailed for racist rental discrimination.

[Galiantus III]

Oh look. An actual racist. See lefties? They brand themselves. No need to call people racists who aren't.

Skin color doesn't matter. Genetics and heritage doesn't matter. We're all people. Trump says ambiguous things because it wins him attention, but he doesn't actually do anything that is racist. White supremacists and the far left are desperate to make race the important issue.

Apologists sure love to pretend Donnie was never nailed for racist rental discrimination.

First, I seem to recall he just (I don't know the legal term) but he acquiesced to the prosecution and gave them what they wanted. Wealthy people and companies do that sometimes in lawsuits for a variety of reasons. It doesn't imply guilt. It often amounts to "I don't have time for this", "I don't want the bad press", or "It's cheaper just to roll with it".

Second, people change. Trump used to support abortion. Now he doesn't. That's a pretty drastic change. His economy now is helping improve the lives of black communities, so even if he was racist back then, evidence would suggest that he is not racist now. And what matters is what he thinks now, not what he thought back then. Again, people change. Don't you want racists to change and not be racist? That's a win for all of us. Why aren't you accepting your win?

[Greater Texia]

Are you trying to imply those are bad qualities? I really don't see how it's so offensive to want to care for your own countrymen and family members before foreigners.

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

I disagree. One is a Palestinian, one a Puerto Rican and one a Somalian. I don't know much about Ayanna Pressley, but I'm going to assume that her family has been in the country for multiple generations and so would not dismiss her as not being a real American, despite political differences or what you seem to think I think regarding people's race.

[Galiantus III]

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

I disagree. One is a Palestinian, one a Puerto Rican and one a Somalian. I don't know much about Ayanna Pressley, but I'm going to assume that her family has been in the country for multiple generations and so would not dismiss her as not being a real American, despite political differences or what you seem to think I think regarding people's race.

AOC and Ayanna were born in the US. The other two weren't (if I remember correctly).

Edit: Ultimately, I don't really care where they were born. I think all four of them are sources of bad policy and are bad for the country. And I would say the same of plenty of politicians with generations of ancestors in the US.

[Highever]

The 4 congresswoman he attacked are American. They're just not "Real Americans" and we all know what that means.

I disagree. One is a Palestinian, one a Puerto Rican and one a Somalian. I don't know much about Ayanna Pressley, but I'm going to assume that her family has been in the country for multiple generations and so would not dismiss her as not being a real American, despite political differences or what you seem to think I think regarding people's race.

You do know that Puerto Rico is part of the US, right? And that ones cultural origin does not mean they cannot be American?