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Postby Arcadian States and Commonwealths » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:41 am

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Well you don't win against Trump with AOC either.

Well, we don't really have much of a historical precedent for AOC. The point is: whoever beats Trump must be someone who can actually excite people. The DNC's top picks don't fit the bill.


your right because I really doubt the DNC will choose Gubbard(who is thier best bet, outside of Biden). I already saw a piece saying Gubbard is back by the russians and r/Poltics seems to love it. Then the independent is even trying to say she is backed by white supremacists which means the DNC is shooting themselves in the foot again.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:43 am

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EastKekistan wrote:I didn't say that it is beneficial. However it is a necessary side effect of democracy. Democracy is beneficial and this is an unavoidable side effect.

No, that's not true. Democracy and nativism are not necessarily interlinked, even if they often are.

Of course. You can also have settler democracy, that is, democracy for settlers..such as pre-1994 South Africa.
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Postby Elgin Mills » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:43 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

Your country and your government are not the same thing. Burgers ought to stop confusing the two things. Omar's family moved in when she was ten, it's not like she came to the US for the express purpose of criticizing it.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:46 am

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Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

Your country and your government are not the same thing. Burgers ought to stop confusing the two things. Omar's family moved in when she was ten, it's not like she came to the US for the express purpose of criticizing it.

Nativism is precisely about defining (or redefining as in the case of America) who citizens of a republic are. Just like the rest of politics don't even bother to think about whether it is fair. Politics is inherently violent and about dominance. Both sides don't give a shit about fairness.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:46 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:47 am

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Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.

Ilhan Omar hasn't improved America.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:47 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.


What was that freedom of expression thing again?
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Postby Elgin Mills » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:48 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.


What was that freedom of expression thing again?

You don't get freedoms if you're Black and an immigrant, duh doy.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:49 am

Duvniask wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.

She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:49 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.


What was that freedom of expression thing again?

Yes, she does indeed have the freedom to be a piece of shit.
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:50 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
What was that freedom of expression thing again?

Yes, she does indeed have the freedom to be a piece of shit.


I am sorry. I missed the answer in all the nonsense.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:50 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Duvniask wrote:One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.

She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.


Well, what can you expect from her? I expect nothing. The divide can not be bridged and that she is just acting according to her own interests.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:51 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Duvniask wrote:One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.

Ilhan Omar hasn't improved America.


I must emphasize the "want" part there. She's only one congresswoman, in a party where the leadership is, at best, ambivalent towards her and, at worst, hostile.

Futhermore, she at least calls attention to issues that are worthy of discussion. It is good that there is someone critical of Israel in the US congress.
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Postby Elgin Mills » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:51 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Duvniask wrote:One apparently can't criticize the country one lives in, or, God forbid, want to better it.

She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.

Do you care to understand and respond to her criticisms? Or are you so filled with the Patriotic Rage that you can do nothing but yell HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:52 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, she does indeed have the freedom to be a piece of shit.


I am sorry. I missed the answer in all the nonsense.

You're invoking the First Amendment as if it absolves her of all criticism.
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:53 am

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What was that freedom of expression thing again?

Yes, she does indeed have the freedom to be a piece of shit.


Nice to hear that you think that education, healthcare, non-interventionalism, and human rights are all bad things.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:53 am

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Nova Cyberia wrote:She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.

Do you care to understand and respond to her criticisms? Or are you so filled with the Patriotic Rage that you can do nothing but yell HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!

Perhaps she would have been better off in Somalia. At least there'd be no racism against the poor dear there, right?
Yes, yes, I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:54 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.

“They” should? 3 of the 4 are American by birth.
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Postby Knask » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:54 am

Surely we elect people to defend and preserve the status quo? Anyone who suggests ways to change America obviously doesn't love it and should just leave instead.

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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:54 am

Elgin Mills wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.

Do you care to understand and respond to her criticisms? Or are you so filled with the Patriotic Rage that you can do nothing but yell HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!

Hint: Both sides use authoritarianism because the world is full of power struggle.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:55 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:She has not improved America in the least. In fact, all she's done is deepen the divide.

She came here from a literal shithole of a country, yet seems completely unappreciative of the life this country has afforded her. All she can ever muster herself to do is completely shit all over it.


Well, what can you expect from her? I expect nothing. The divide can not be bridged and that she is just acting according to her own interests.


So is Trump.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:55 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:They should, tbh. People like Omar who come here just to shit all over our country really need to go back.


Strongly agree.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:55 am

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Well, what can you expect from her? I expect nothing. The divide can not be bridged and that she is just acting according to her own interests.


So is Trump.

Yep. The election of Trump is the beginning of the transition of America from a Republic to an Empire.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:56 am

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Nova Cyberia wrote:Yes, she does indeed have the freedom to be a piece of shit.


Nice to hear that you think that education, healthcare, non-interventionalism, and human rights are all bad things.

And lying to high school students to further her political goals.

Did I mention she also broke campaign finance law?
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