Did you celebrate Nathan Bedford Forrest Day?

[Duhon]

Get over yourself. You have no reason to be proud of them, yet you insist. Do you desire a securely independent Confederacy that subjugates people? No? Then your veneration is pointless.

I have every reason to be proud of commendable service by ancestor(s). You're not making a very convincing argument, or even a coherent one, at all here.

You're not the one who's making any sense. Is the fact they served, and were once soldiers all that matters to you, no matter the cause they fought for, no matter the consequences had they won?

[Totally Not OEP]

I have every reason to be proud of commendable service by ancestor(s). You're not making a very convincing argument, or even a coherent one, at all here.

You're not the one who's making any sense. Is the fact they served, and were once soldiers all that matters to you, no matter the cause they fought for, no matter the consequences had they won?

Yes, nor do I necessarily find the latter objectionable.

[Duhon]

You're not the one who's making any sense. Is the fact they served, and were once soldiers all that matters to you, no matter the cause they fought for, no matter the consequences had they won?

Yes, nor do I necessarily find the latter objectionable.

You're talking about continued slavery, at the very least. How is that not objectionable to you? Because fuck the blacks, your ancestors got theirs?

[Totally Not OEP]

Yes, nor do I necessarily find the latter objectionable.

You're talking about continued slavery, at the very least. How is that not objectionable to you? Because fuck the blacks, your ancestors got theirs?

My ancestors were Yeoman farmers.

[Duhon]

You're talking about continued slavery, at the very least. How is that not objectionable to you? Because fuck the blacks, your ancestors got theirs?

My ancestors were Yeoman farmers.

Who also marched alongside Lee at some point in the Civil War. But that's beside the point. How is a surviving Confederacy not objectionable to you?

[Totally Not OEP]

My ancestors were Yeoman farmers.

Who also marched alongside Lee at some point in the Civil War. But that's beside the point. How is a surviving Confederacy not objectionable to you?

My ancestors didn't get their's then, so again, we're back to the point I'm not even sure what you're arguing for or even about.

[EastKekistan]

I have every reason to be proud of commendable service by ancestor(s). You're not making a very convincing argument, or even a coherent one, at all here.

You're not the one who's making any sense. Is the fact they served, and were once soldiers all that matters to you, no matter the cause they fought for, no matter the consequences had they won?

As I said before, this is partly caused by Dixie poverty. I think by Anglo standards they are also unusually collectivistic on average.

Collectivists gonna do collectivist things. Since most people are collectivists I prefer segregation. Let them get a homeland where they can do collectivistic stuff 24/7. I don't care as long as I don't have to live there.

[Christian Confederation]

I don't I care for the chivery of the south, like gone with the wind, sweet tea, Sunday cooking, ETC, ETC

Gone With The Wind is quite literally racist propaganda...

I don't think the National film archive preserves "Racist propaganda"
Last I checked they preserve film of historic/ cultural significance.

[Christian Confederation]

I don't I care for the chivery of the south, like gone with the wind, sweet tea, Sunday cooking, ETC, ETC

Gone With The Wind is quite literally racist propaganda...

[Kowani]

Gone With The Wind is quite literally racist propaganda...

I don't think the National film archive preserves "Racist propaganda"
Last I checked they preserve film of historic/ cultural significance.

Something can be culturally significant and still be racist, mate.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

I don't think the National film archive preserves "Racist propaganda"
Last I checked they preserve film of historic/ cultural significance.

Something can be culturally significant and still be racist, mate.

That is true, very true indeed. With that being said, you do have to give credit where credit is due. To their credit, Gone With the Wind did make use of actual black actors and actresses rather than using white ones in blackface. Also gone with the wind was the first film to have a black actor/ress who won an oscar. Oh and while it may not seem like it, they actually did tone down the racism to a degree when compared to the book. Above all though...It's just a great film, even if it is somewhat racist.

[Christian Confederation]

Something can be culturally significant and still be racist, mate.

That is true, very true indeed. With that being said, you do have to give credit where credit is due. To their credit, Gone With the Wind did make use of actual black actors and actresses rather than using white ones in blackface. Also gone with the wind was the first film to have a black actor/ress who won an oscar. Oh and while it may not seem like it, they actually did tone down the racism to a degree when compared to the book. Above all though...It's just a great film, even if it is somewhat racist.

I agree all the way, now I have to find a certain novel I just found out about today.

[Ethel mermania]

Washington massacred blacks?

You're obviously referring to Fort Pillow and furthermore ignoring the context therein of it.

And what was that context?

We honor washington, he was a revolutionary who won. Who if lost would lost his life.
We dishonor Forrest, he was a revolutionary who lost, and seemed to do very afterwards.

Forrest made his money as a slave trader
Washington made his by marrying into the planter class.

Forrest massacred blacks, both at fort pillow and as grand lizard member of the Klan.

Washington treated his slaves reasonably well.
Forrest did not.

These are just a few of the profound differences between the two which make one worthy of admiration and the other vilification.

[Ohioan Territory]

Why does a US States have a holiday celebrating a traitor? General Sherman would be rolling in his grave.

I don't give a Da*n what that piece of Sh** would think, he tourched my State and sent Carpetbaggers and other curupt invadors to "Rebuild" or state.

Similarly, many Americans think this way about your beloved Confederate generals.

"I don't give a damn what that piece of shit would think, he enslaved and raped my ancestors and suppressed our voting rights when we were emancipated."

See why we should condemn all terrible people, Forrest and Sherman included?

[Heloin]

Gone With The Wind is quite literally racist propaganda...

I don't think the National film archive preserves "Racist propaganda"
Last I checked they preserve film of historic/ cultural significance.

The Birth of a Nation is on that list. Unless you want to try an argue that film isn't racist propaganda.