Did you celebrate Nathan Bedford Forrest Day?

[Kernen]

I'm struggling to see the problem.

Excessive classism and regionalism aren't healthy. For example in China a lot of people bash folks from Henan because they are supposedly "all fraudsters". In Japan Kanto folks don't like Kansai folks that much..

Neither is red meat, but I'd rather that then deal with veggie burgers.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.

No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?

Why do you hate the First Amendment? People are allowed to voice their opinions.

Or do only fascists deserve free speech?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I'm struggling to see the problem.

Excessive classism and regionalism aren't healthy. For example in China a lot of people bash folks from Henan because they are supposedly "all fraudsters". In Japan Kanto folks don't like Kansai folks that much..

Imagine supporting white nationalism and getting angry about "excessive" regionalism being unhealthy.

[Tombradyonia]

We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.

No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?

While we're at it, let's see if there's still any monuments for the German conservatives, militarists and monarchists who (indirectly) helped Lenin to power and (directly) helped ol' Godwin himself (Adolf H) to power just 16 years later.

[Des-Bal]

How appropriate it is depends on the purpose of the holiday. If it's another one of the many many many many many "not racist but" forms of reverence that hover around racist things and shitheels get hard-ons for then fuck it get rid of it.

[Christian Confederation]

I don't give a Da*n what that piece of Sh** would think, he tourched my State and sent Carpetbaggers and other curupt invadors to "Rebuild" or state.

Why do you care so much about racist chattel slavers?

I don't I care for the chivery of the south, like gone with the wind, sweet tea, Sunday cooking, ETC, ETC

[Totally Not OEP]

You do know that had Virginia not left the Union, he would have stayed in the U.S Army. He was loyal to his home state of Virginia so when they joined the CSA, he joined their Army.

Pretty sure the oath he took as a member of the US Army said something about protecting the Constitution of the United States. It may even have mentioned all enemies, foreign and domestic.

And he resigned his commission.

[Totally Not OEP]

Why does a US States have a holiday celebrating a traitor? General Sherman would be rolling in his grave.

Those men are our blood, to hell with Sherman.

[Totally Not OEP]

Those entering the thread:

Always remember that slavery is bad. Defending it is also very bad. Those who engage in it, defended it, or are defending it are unworthy of being granted respect on the same scale as national heroes like MLK and Washington.

Nathan Bedford Forrest was a skilled military leader who has the sin of being a traitor to the Union and a defender/practitioner of slavery. He does not deserve a state holiday.

You mean MLK who literally allowed one of his followers to rape a woman in front of him? As well, why does Washington get a pass for doing exactly the same thing Forrest did?

[Ethel mermania]

Those entering the thread:

Always remember that slavery is bad. Defending it is also very bad. Those who engage in it, defended it, or are defending it are unworthy of being granted respect on the same scale as national heroes like MLK and Washington.

Nathan Bedford Forrest was a skilled military leader who has the sin of being a traitor to the Union and a defender/practitioner of slavery. He does not deserve a state holiday.

You mean MLK who literally allowed one of his followers to rape a woman in front of him? As well, why does Washington get a pass for doing exactly the same thing Forrest did?

Washington massacred blacks?

[Des-Bal]

You mean MLK who literally allowed one of his followers to rape a woman in front of him? As well, why does Washington get a pass for doing exactly the same thing Forrest did?

Why aren't pro-Washington people overwhelmingly racist? Because it's not the same. Civil war was about slavery and nothing else, the monuments and honors relating to the confederacy are indelibly tied to racism and that's usually intentional.

[Thermodolia]

Repeal. That’s about it. Repeal the laws celebrating the Confederates.

How about we don't. Do you have something against Robert E. Lee?

You mean other than the fact he’s a traitor? And he fought for the right to own others?

[Thermodolia]

You mean MLK who literally allowed one of his followers to rape a woman in front of him? As well, why does Washington get a pass for doing exactly the same thing Forrest did?

Why aren't pro-Washington people overwhelmingly racist? Because it's not the same. Civil war was about slavery and nothing else, the monuments and honors relating to the confederacy are indelibly tied to racism and that's usually intentional.

That and they are celebrating a bunch of traitorous trash

[Thermodolia]

Why does a US States have a holiday celebrating a traitor? General Sherman would be rolling in his grave.

I don't give a Da*n what that piece of Sh** would think, he tourched my State and sent Carpetbaggers and other curupt invadors to "Rebuild" or state.

Georgia is doing pretty good all things considered. We aren’t as fucked up as Alabama, Tennessee, or god forbid Mississippi

[Totally Not OEP]

You mean MLK who literally allowed one of his followers to rape a woman in front of him? As well, why does Washington get a pass for doing exactly the same thing Forrest did?

Washington massacred blacks?

You're obviously referring to Fort Pillow and furthermore ignoring the context therein of it.

[Duhon]

Why does a US States have a holiday celebrating a traitor? General Sherman would be rolling in his grave.

Those men are our blood, to hell with Sherman.

Those men fought to preserve an institution founded upon the subjugation of other men. If you have your wits with you and wish not to bring back chattel slavery or segregation in full force, you will not call them your kin, you will not be proud of them, you will not honor their names.

[Kowani]

Why do you care so much about racist chattel slavers?

I don't I care for the chivery of the south, like gone with the wind, sweet tea, Sunday cooking, ETC, ETC

Gone With The Wind is quite literally racist propaganda...

[Thermodolia]

Those men are our blood, to hell with Sherman.

Those men fought to preserve an institution founded upon the subjugation of other men. If you have your wits with you and wish not to bring back chattel slavery or segregation in full force, you will not call them your kin, you will not be proud of them, you will not honor their names.

They where also traitors to the republic

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

[Insert witty Sherman joke]

[Duhon]

Those men fought to preserve an institution founded upon the subjugation of other men. If you have your wits with you and wish not to bring back chattel slavery or segregation in full force, you will not call them your kin, you will not be proud of them, you will not honor their names.

They where also traitors to the republic

I will also be a traitor to my own, if not this year, then the next one, so I am unmoved by that reasoning. Had they fought against their country to end slavery, free the slaves, and eliminate bigotry, and impose equality, I will have no qualms with them.

As it was and is, they are worse than traitors, they are oppressors, and people who say southern culture can be credibly represented by people who fought to subjugate men they thought were their lessers are hideously mistaken.

[Totally Not OEP]

Those men are our blood, to hell with Sherman.

Those men fought to preserve an institution founded upon the subjugation of other men. If you have your wits with you and wish not to bring back chattel slavery or segregation in full force, you will not call them your kin, you will not be proud of them, you will not honor their names.

I call them my ancestors, I'm proud of my Great-Great Grandfather who was with Lee and I honor his name. Get over it.

[Duhon]

Those men fought to preserve an institution founded upon the subjugation of other men. If you have your wits with you and wish not to bring back chattel slavery or segregation in full force, you will not call them your kin, you will not be proud of them, you will not honor their names.

I call them my ancestors, I'm proud of my Great-Great Grandfather who was with Lee and I honor his name. Get over it.

Get over yourself. You have no reason to be proud of them, yet you insist. Do you desire a securely independent Confederacy that subjugates people? No? Then your veneration is pointless.

[Totally Not OEP]

I call them my ancestors, I'm proud of my Great-Great Grandfather who was with Lee and I honor his name. Get over it.

Get over yourself. You have no reason to be proud of them, yet you insist. Do you desire a securely independent Confederacy that subjugates people? No? Then your veneration is pointless.

I have every reason to be proud of commendable service by ancestor(s). You're not making a very convincing argument, or even a coherent one, at all here.

[Duhon]

If you wish to honor anyone from the antebellum or Jim Crow South, honor your Frederick Douglasses and your Sojourner Truths, your Booker T. Washingtons and your George Washington Carvers, and bemoan that the bigoted shortsightedness of those you call your ancestors did not pave the way for conditions that further foster further geniuses.

[Totally Not OEP]

If you wish to honor anyone from the antebellum or Jim Crow South, honor your Frederick Douglasses and your Sojourner Truths, your Booker T. Washingtons and your George Washington Carvers, and bemoan that the bigoted shortsightedness of those you call your ancestors did not pave the way for conditions that further foster further geniuses.

Except I don't and you're really not making sense here.