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I most certainly..

..did! He was a fine military leader and gentleman of the South
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12%
..did! It's the law so I had to
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1%
..did not! I refuse to celebrate this man
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16%
..did not! I'm not even from Tennessee
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26%
..did!..and I'm not even from Tennessee
5
3%
..think we should invade the South again
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28%
..think idpol.. if people want to celebrate the 1st Grandmaster of the KKK then so be it
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5%
..think we should click more polls on the subject
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:02 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I really wish racialists would stop appropriating biological science - that does not at all mean what you think it means.

It's possible to determine one's racial (or clinal) background genetically. So clines of Homo sapiens are definitely a legitimate and scientific concept.


Yeah, no. That's not how it works in the slightest. In particular, 23andme is a direct disproof of your absurd claims.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:05 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I really wish racialists would stop appropriating biological science - that does not at all mean what you think it means.

It's possible to determine one's racial (or clinal) background genetically. So clines of Homo sapiens are definitely a legitimate and scientific concept.

It literally isn't, though. You can make iffy guesses, but that's it.
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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:06 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:It's possible to determine one's racial (or clinal) background genetically. So clines of Homo sapiens are definitely a legitimate and scientific concept.


Yeah, no. That's not how it works in the slightest. In particular, 23andme is a direct disproof of your absurd claims.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim, like..how often do they misidentify whites as blacks and vice versa?
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:07 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Yeah, no. That's not how it works in the slightest. In particular, 23andme is a direct disproof of your absurd claims.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim, like..how often do they misidentify whites as blacks and vice versa?


That's not the claim that I made. As a hint for the actual claim: how many people do you know whose 23andme result was "100% X", for some X?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Northern Syria » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:Remove Confederate monuments and replace them with statues of Sherman.


Agreed

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I was hoping for this.

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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:08 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Do you have any evidence to back up your claim, like..how often do they misidentify whites as blacks and vice versa?


That's not the claim that I made. As a hint for the actual claim: how many people do you know whose 23andme result was "100% X", for some X?

Almost nope lol. Everybody is a bit mixed. Racial purity is a myth. For example Europeans are pretty much a mixture of at least three groups.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:09 pm

Northern Syria wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Agreed

Image

I was hoping for this.

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Now that's patriotism.


Don’t you mean freedom? And, are you delivering that freedom somewhere? :lol2:
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:09 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
That's not the claim that I made. As a hint for the actual claim: how many people do you know whose 23andme result was "100% X", for some X?

Almost nope lol. Everybody is a bit mixed. Racial purity is a myth. For example Europeans are pretty much a mixture of at least three groups.


Exactly zero, in fact. Which means that your "clines" simply do not exist.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Northern Syria » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Northern Syria wrote:I was hoping for this.

Image


Now that's patriotism.


Don’t you mean freedom? And, are you delivering that freedom somewhere? :lol2:

Gonna have to deliver this here freedom right to Nashville if they keep praising that Forrest guy...
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:21 pm

Northern Syria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don’t you mean freedom? And, are you delivering that freedom somewhere? :lol2:

Gonna have to deliver this here freedom right to Nashville if they keep praising that Forrest guy...


You made me chuckle. :lol2:
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:32 pm

Northern Syria wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don’t you mean freedom? And, are you delivering that freedom somewhere? :lol2:

Gonna have to deliver this here freedom right to Nashville if they keep praising that Forrest guy...

Nashville's great though, you can still smoke in some bars!
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Postby Ordenstaat Burgundy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:06 pm

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Elgin Mills wrote:Removing statues is not censorship, because statues aren't speech. It's funny how no-one ever gets mad about Lenin statues getting torn down in 1991, but as soon as you go after our favorite band of Gentleman Slavers...

We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.


No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:19 pm

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The Batorys wrote:We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.


No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates.


No there aren't.

While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes.


You realise we're in a thread about someone whose most notable achievement was crucifying people and burning them alive for being black, right?

Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?


How many of those are there in the US, again?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Highever » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:49 pm

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The Batorys wrote:We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.


No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself.

Why? The hell kind of sense does that make? Especially when they choose to venerate traitors and in thisinstance, both a traitor and one instrumental in the creation of a terrorist organization?
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Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
The Batorys wrote:We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.


No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?


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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:11 pm

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Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?


"We slavers didn't go full Nazi or commie, so we good! We good, right? We good?"

This thread suddenly reminded me of a fact. Dixies actually have the lowest status and are the most impoverished among all whites in America. As I said before, identitarianism usually correlates with low status. No wonder Dixies have a lot of identitarianism compared to other whites and why blacks and browns have so much identitarianism compared to whites.

Maybe..just leave them alone? I have visited Dixieland once and let me tell you something, the local STEM folks are mostly northern whites and foreigners from NE Asia or India who basically live in another world. Neither Dixies nor blacks tend to get in.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:16 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Duhon wrote:
"We slavers didn't go full Nazi or commie, so we good! We good, right? We good?"

This thread suddenly reminded me of a fact. Dixies actually have the lowest status and are the most impoverished among all whites in America. As I said before, identitarianism usually correlates with low status. No wonder Dixies have a lot of identitarianism compared to other whites and why blacks and browns have so much identitarianism compared to whites.

Maybe..just leave them alone? I have visited Dixieland once and let me tell you something, the local STEM folks are mostly northern whites and foreigners from NE Asia or India who basically live in another world. Neither Dixies nor blacks tend to get in.

They should do better at school.
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Kernen wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:This thread suddenly reminded me of a fact. Dixies actually have the lowest status and are the most impoverished among all whites in America. As I said before, identitarianism usually correlates with low status. No wonder Dixies have a lot of identitarianism compared to other whites and why blacks and browns have so much identitarianism compared to whites.

Maybe..just leave them alone? I have visited Dixieland once and let me tell you something, the local STEM folks are mostly northern whites and foreigners from NE Asia or India who basically live in another world. Neither Dixies nor blacks tend to get in.

They should do better at school.

OK. Your argument is actually the same as the argument NE Asian expats and right-wing whites use in the West against AA for blacks and browns.

I do support it in both cases but most people don't when their tribe benefits from AA.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:23 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Kernen wrote:They should do better at school.

OK. Your argument is actually the same as the argument NE Asian expats and right-wing whites use in the West against AA for blacks and browns.

I do support it in both cases but most people don't when their tribe benefits from AA.

I'm not big on affirmative action. I'll give the minority population this: In my experience, they don't take an anti-intellectual perspective like the Dixie Locals. Its hard for me to feel sorry for Johnny Reb.
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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:27 pm

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EastKekistan wrote:OK. Your argument is actually the same as the argument NE Asian expats and right-wing whites use in the West against AA for blacks and browns.

I do support it in both cases but most people don't when their tribe benefits from AA.

I'm not big on affirmative action. I'll give the minority population this: In my experience, they don't take an anti-intellectual perspective like the Dixie Locals. Its hard for me to feel sorry for Johnny Reb.

Dixies and their black frenemies who live in the same land aren't that different in many aspects. They have short lifespans, similar food preferences, poor health, high levels of drug use, violence and poverty etc. Dixies are still healthier and richer than local blacks. Both have a lot of resentment towards and are not really liked by coastal educated folks.

The Africans who don't behave like local blacks tend to be Nigerian.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:28 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Kernen wrote:I'm not big on affirmative action. I'll give the minority population this: In my experience, they don't take an anti-intellectual perspective like the Dixie Locals. Its hard for me to feel sorry for Johnny Reb.

Dixies and their black frenemies who live in the same land aren't that different in many aspects. They have short lifespans, similar food preferences, poor health, high levels of drug use, violence and poverty etc. Dixies are still healthier and richer than local blacks. Both have a lot of resentment towards and are not really liked by coastal educated folks.


Educated coastal types aren't a big fan of bumpkins? Perish the thought.
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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:31 pm

Kernen wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Dixies and their black frenemies who live in the same land aren't that different in many aspects. They have short lifespans, similar food preferences, poor health, high levels of drug use, violence and poverty etc. Dixies are still healthier and richer than local blacks. Both have a lot of resentment towards and are not really liked by coastal educated folks.


Educated coastal types aren't a big fan of bumpkins? Perish the thought.

This form of classism and regionalism happens everywhere including in very homogeneous societies such as Japan and Korea. If anything coastal whites nominally ally with blacks and browns against Dixies while avoiding them like a plague in life.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:34 pm

Ordenstaat Burgundy wrote:
The Batorys wrote:We literally blew up up Germany's big swastika sculptures when we conquered it in WW2.

I think we need to do more to remind the south that they lost and were conquered.


No...I think what you need to do is keep your bloody opinions about who the South venerates to yourself. Also FYI buddy, there's a vast fucking difference between the crimes of the nazis and the confederates. While the latter may not have been perfect, they didn't engage in the mass slaughter of innocents and commit innumerable war crimes. Also with that being said...If you're going to blow up the statues of confederates, perhaps we should return the favor and start destroying communist/soviet monuments. I mean after all they committed many crimes against humanity as well. So it's only fair right?

You seem terribly upset about other people's opinions.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Educated coastal types aren't a big fan of bumpkins? Perish the thought.

This form of classism and regionalism happens everywhere including in very homogeneous societies such as Japan and Korea. If anything coastal whites nominally ally with blacks and browns against Dixies while avoiding them like a plague in life.

I'm struggling to see the problem.
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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:41 pm

Kernen wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:This form of classism and regionalism happens everywhere including in very homogeneous societies such as Japan and Korea. If anything coastal whites nominally ally with blacks and browns against Dixies while avoiding them like a plague in life.

I'm struggling to see the problem.

Excessive classism and regionalism aren't healthy. For example in China a lot of people bash folks from Henan because they are supposedly "all fraudsters". In Japan Kanto folks don't like Kansai folks that much..
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