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Postby ECKU » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:41 pm

Actually, reading that post would confuse you more. It's actually my fault for explaining myself.

The post I was quoting was this:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Every madhab supports death for sodomy or at least caning and every one supports death for apostasy, at least under some circumstances, as far as I kmow. Salafism is a movement quite distinct from those issues.

I'm with caning/lashing, not death for apostasy.

Al Mumtahanah was talking about both sodomy and apostasy.
The lashing/caning was about the sodomy. If anyone has any questions about that please ask in the IDT.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:43 pm

ECKU wrote:Actually, reading that post would confuse you more. It's actually my fault for explaining myself.

The post I was quoting was this:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'm with caning/lashing, not death for apostasy.

Al Mumtahanah was talking about both sodomy and apostasy.
The lashing/caning was about the sodomy. If anyone has any questions about that please ask in the IDT.


Or, you know, people can discuss it here where the discussion is taking place.

Seriously, for the umpteenth time now, stop with the IDT bullshit already.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:43 pm

ECKU wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Isn't lying a sin in Islam?





You know that's an incredibly good argument in favor of suppressing your religion, correct?

Yes, lying is Haraam in most cases. No, that post of mine that you blew up (haha :p ) isn't evidence of that. Read that post again.


How is it not proof that you lied? It clearly shows you saying something you literally just denied saying. Unless you're going to say that "caning/lashing" aren't 'beating the shit out of people', but that would be just as blatant of a lie as saying you never said it in the first place.

Also, only to those who don't understand what lesser jihaad is. But then they should actually pick up an Islamic book or go to an Islamic website to learn about it.


You clearly said "violent jihad". That is terrorism, no matter how you slice it, and justification for suppressing any ideology/philosophy/theology that endorses it. At least have the strength of character to own up to it, instead of hiding behind bullshit semantics like you always do.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:46 pm

ECKU wrote:Actually, reading that post would confuse you more. It's actually my fault for explaining myself.

The post I was quoting was this:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'm with caning/lashing, not death for apostasy.

Al Mumtahanah was talking about both sodomy and apostasy.
The lashing/caning was about the sodomy.


You do realize that doesn't help you at all, right? If anything, you're digging an even deeper hole for yourself.

If anyone has any questions about that please ask in the IDT.


Paddy O Fernature wrote:Or, you know, people can discuss it here where the discussion is taking place.

Seriously, for the umpteenth time now, stop with the IDT bullshit already.
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Postby ECKU » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:49 pm

Grenartia wrote:Unless you're going to say that "caning/lashing" aren't 'beating the shit out of people', but that would be just as blatant of a lie as saying you never said it in the first place.

Islamically speaking caning/lashing would not equate "beating the crap out of people".
Grenartia wrote:You clearly said "violent jihad".

"Lesser jihaad" and "violent jihaad" mean the same thing.
Grenartia wrote:That is terrorism, no matter how you slice it, and justification for suppressing any ideology/philosophy/theology that endorses it.

And you have now shown that you don't know what lesser jihaad is. Ironic considering I posted what jihaad in general is in this very thread for you and others to use. I even included a tl;dr.
Grenartia wrote:At least have the strength of character to own up to it, instead of hiding behind bull*hit semantics like you always do.

And you read what Al-Islam actually teaches instead of using baseless assumptions and going by what Muslims do.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:52 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Seriously, for the umpteenth time now, stop with the IDT bullshit already.

^-- This. In fact, let me help make it easier to do so.

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