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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:16 pm

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ECKU wrote:He said "just". Also I posted the rules of lesser jihad here.


Do you spend as much time on Islamic websites telling the terrorists that they're wrong as you do on here telling us infidels that we're wrong?

1: I haven't met any terrorists online
2: I'm not on any Islamic forum websites. Unless you count discord, in which case, see #1
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:16 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you spend as much time on Islamic websites telling the terrorists that they're wrong as you do on here telling us infidels that we're wrong?

Terrorists don't post on Islamic websites that I see anymore than they do on any other site.


But they might read them.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:19 pm

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Al Mumtahanah wrote:Terrorists don't post on Islamic websites that I see anymore than they do on any other site.


But they might read them.


I once was a member of an Islamic kik chat a few years back and while most people were alright, we had a few salafis join. One girl supported Al Nusra and another dude called for actually violence against Christians and jews. Unfortunately whenever an Islamic chat of any kind is created, the wahhabis are attracted to it like flies to a lamp
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:20 pm

ECKU wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Do you spend as much time on Islamic websites telling the terrorists that they're wrong as you do on here telling us infidels that we're wrong?

1: I haven't met any terrorists online
2: I'm not on any Islamic forum websites. Unless you count discord, in which case, see #1


Ah. So it's more important to you to try to convince us infidels that your religion is about peace and Jihad is a good thing than to talk to the fellow members of your religion to try to make that the truth?

Do you not see how that might be you wasting your time?

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Terrorists don't post on Islamic websites that I see anymore than they do on any other site.


But they might read them.


Arguments against such things are heavy on Muslim sites because...I have a world-shattering surprise for you...Muslims are by far the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism. A major and beloved woman, Hodan Naylayeh followed by tens of thousands of Muslims on twitter was recently killed in Somalia.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:26 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
But they might read them.


Arguments against such things are heavy on Muslim sites because...I have a world-shattering surprise for you...Muslims are by far the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism. A major and beloved woman, Hodan Naylayeh followed by tens of thousands of Muslims on twitter was recently killed in Somalia.


Says the guy who literally refers to us as infidels. You seem to be against violence when it affects Muslims but what if all the victims were Catholics or Buddhists or jews?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
ECKU wrote:1: I haven't met any terrorists online
2: I'm not on any Islamic forum websites. Unless you count discord, in which case, see #1


Ah. So it's more important to you to try to convince us infidels that your religion is about peace

Never said that
Fartsniffage wrote:and Jihad is a good thing

I'm just trying to say that jihaad =/= terrorism
Fartsniffage wrote:than to talk to the fellow members of your religion to try to make that the truth?

They already know that jihaad =/= terrorism
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:27 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Arguments against such things are heavy on Muslim sites because...I have a world-shattering surprise for you...Muslims are by far the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism. A major and beloved woman, Hodan Naylayeh followed by tens of thousands of Muslims on twitter was recently killed in Somalia.


Says the guy who literally refers to us as infidels. You seem to be against violence when it affects Muslims but what if all the victims were Catholics or Buddhists or jews?


You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:28 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Says the guy who literally refers to us as infidels. You seem to be against violence when it affects Muslims but what if all the victims were Catholics or Buddhists or jews?


You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.


Infidels is a pretty dehumanizing term bro
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:32 pm

ECKU wrote:They already know that jihaad =/= terrorism


Apparently not since so many terrorists claim they're fighting a Jihad.

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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:38 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.


Infidels is a pretty dehumanizing term bro

https://www.google.com/search?q=Infidels&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 wrote:in·fi·del
/ˈinfədl,ˈinfəˌdel/
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a person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own.
Anybody who says that I support non-Islamic slavery, persecution of non-Muslims, rape, domestic violence, terrorism, pedophilia, killing homosexuals, hating Jews, etc is lying.

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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:39 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
ECKU wrote:They already know that jihaad =/= terrorism


Apparently not since so many terrorists claim they're fighting a Jihad.

I'm talking about the Muslims on discord.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:43 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.


Infidels is a pretty dehumanizing term bro

If that were so you wouldn't want it on your hat.
Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:57 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Infidels is a pretty dehumanizing term bro

If that were so you wouldn't want it on your hat.


I look at it more like as a way to reclaim a word of hate so I can mess with those who use it. Like yeah I'm an infidel. If being able to think for myself and be an individual makes you one, then I'm infidel to the core. Doesn't change the fact you don't refer to people as infidels without some serious hate in your heart
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:59 pm

ECKU wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Infidels is a pretty dehumanizing term bro

https://www.google.com/search?q=Infidels&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 wrote:in·fi·del
/ˈinfədl,ˈinfəˌdel/
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a person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own.


I've never heard someone neutrally or lovingly call someone an infidel. The connotation is usually one of negativity, and is some intense salafi dog whistling
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Highever » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:59 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Says the guy who literally refers to us as infidels. You seem to be against violence when it affects Muslims but what if all the victims were Catholics or Buddhists or jews?


You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.

Yes and infidels as a pretty negative connotation that includes derogatory and often hostile intent.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:00 pm

Highever wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
You are literally infidels but where have I advocated hurting you? I don't.

Yes and infidels as a pretty negative connotation that includes derogatory and often hostile intent.


Replace infidels with a racial slur and you'll see how ridiculous his statement is.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:00 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
ECKU wrote:


I've never heard someone neutrally or lovingly call someone an infidel. The connotation is usually one of negativity, and is some intense salafi dog whistling

Salafis aren't the only people who use "infidel".
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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:01 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Highever wrote:Yes and infidels as a pretty negative connotation that includes derogatory and often hostile intent.


Replace infidels with a racial slur and you'll see how ridiculous his statement is.

Not really
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:01 pm

ECKU wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
I've never heard someone neutrally or lovingly call someone an infidel. The connotation is usually one of negativity, and is some intense salafi dog whistling

Salafis aren't the only people who use "infidel".


No but most people I hear using that term are salafis. Most of my Muslim friends don't tend to refer to people as infidels, mainly cause they aren't bigots
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:02 pm

ECKU wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Replace infidels with a racial slur and you'll see how ridiculous his statement is.

Not really


Yes really. It literally holds the same connotation
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby Highever » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:02 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Highever wrote:Yes and infidels as a pretty negative connotation that includes derogatory and often hostile intent.


Replace infidels with a racial slur and you'll see how ridiculous his statement is.

Well I know it isn't necessarily a slur or insult, but that is merely the connotations surrounding it. Especially in recent times.
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:04 pm

Being an infidel should be a point of pride anyway.
Yes, yes, I get it. I'm racist and fascist because I disagree with you. Can we skip that part? I've heard it a million times before and I guarantee it won't be any different when you do it
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Postby Highever » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:05 pm

Its pretty much the same as using Mohammedan to refer to someone who is Muslim. It isn't technically or specifically an insult and derogatory, but that is what it has become in the present day.
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Postby ECKU » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:06 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
ECKU wrote:Salafis aren't the only people who use "infidel".


No but most people I hear using that term are salafis. Most of my Muslim friends don't tend to refer to people as infidels, mainly cause they aren't bigots

So you've never heard a Christian say it?
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