UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well this is a fun discussion I've just read.

There is an app that makes train tickets cheaper by splitting them, I forget what it is called, I will ask my Dad. For some reason though when booking a train, it's often cheaper if you book various journeys on the same train to take you to your destination. So if you were taking the train from Manchester to oxford for example (I know not the route you want but it's one I know), it's cheaper to book a ticket from Manchester to Stafford, Stafford to Lemington, Lemington to Oxford rather than a direct one from Manchester to Oxford.

[Bonenburg]

Well this is a fun discussion I've just read.

There is an app that makes train tickets cheaper by splitting them, I forget what it is called, I will ask my Dad. For some reason though when booking a train, it's often cheaper if you book various journeys on the same train to take you to your destination. So if you were taking the train from Manchester to oxford for example (I know not the route you want but it's one I know), it's cheaper to book a ticket from Manchester to Stafford, Stafford to Lemington, Lemington to Oxford rather than a direct one from Manchester to Oxford.

Yeah i know about splitting tickets when it comes to international tickets. I save like 50% when i go Belgium when i do that. I never expected that it would be usefull on domestic trains.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

Remember to keep your tickets, do not throw them away, because in some train stations in Yorkshire [specifically Leeds] you need to present them to exit the station, even if they've been checked on the train itself.

York railway station is a fine railway station, inside at least, but elements of the exterior are a bit seventies. Leeds has a disgusting railway station, unfortunate because it is quite a good city. Huddersfield is the reverse; it has a beautiful railway station but I don't think it's good for a tourist. Yorkshire is actually quite well connected by railway so you should be able to go more or less wherever you want.

If you are travelling inside Yorkshire you should just take northern trains. They are slower and a bit grimier inside but much cheaper. You can go between cities for under £10 if you book a few days in advance.

[Phoenicaea]

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^ sth, this misunderstanding about somewhat 'scientific method' in politics, again. a wider discussion, as habits and politics, it s not a scientific essay, where you observe an outcome.

honestly, this simplified resume of a pseudo-scientific method in politics is a way, as far as i ve seen, to say the most nonsense things, to print graphs and drawing infantile conclusions.

[Joushiki Nante Iranai]

Remember to keep your tickets, do not throw them away, because in some train stations in Yorkshire [specifically Leeds] you need to present them to exit the station, even if they've been checked on the train itself.

From my extremely localised (London and surrounding area) experience, most stations do that, especially major ones.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Remember to keep your tickets, do not throw them away, because in some train stations in Yorkshire [specifically Leeds] you need to present them to exit the station, even if they've been checked on the train itself.

From my extremely localised (London and surrounding area) experience, most stations do that, especially major ones.

Its not most, but it is many. However he said he's goign to York and surrounding cities so specifically York does not have ticket barriers.

Do not get me started on ticket barriers.

[Vassenor]

http://archive.is/3mq2x




"It's an equality movement though. Stop focusing on people who only exist on tumblr.".

Do you remember when I was discussing this exact thing and the feminists on this forum were adamant this wasn't going to be the outcome and it was just a minority of feminists suggesting this idea, because their model of viewing the world and understanding feminism as a phenomanae is one way, while I was telling them this is exactly how it would go down because my model for explaining how feminism operates is another way?

Here's an image for all you feminists who disagreed with that to get tattoo'd onto the inside of your eyeballs.

It might help this finally sink in.



You don't understand what you are talking about. You have believed the gaslighting lies of a hate movement pretending to be an equality movement. Because of this, you assume they won't behave like a hate movement, and cannot accurately predict their behavior, compared to someone who knows they are merely gaslighting society, and CAN predict it.

Your model for understanding them is based on believing their lies. That's why you so consistently wrong and cannot make accurate predictions. This is not the first time this has happened.

Your model for understanding feminism, that it is an equality movement? Actually investigate the evidence for whether that is the case in a good-faith attempt to find the truth, and you will no longer be feminists.

As I stated previously though, all groups are filled with a variety of people.

I know feminists who also disagree with this, and also support a lot of work for problems with men, especially their rate of suicide.

Every feminist is different, just like every other group.

But that would make Feminism not a monolithic hate group 100% dedicated to the oppression of all men everywhere and that cannot possibly be right.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

sarcasm, the most useful substitution tool for analytical reasoning

[Dumb Ideologies]

sarcasm, the most useful substitution tool for analytical reasoning

Some speculate that the eyeroll technique might be even bigger-brained than the smug anime face.

[The Archregimancy]

All the impartial advice anyone needs for UK train travel can be found here:

https://www.seat61.com/UK-train-travel.htm


Can we now get back on topic, please?

[The Free Joy State]

As I stated previously though, all groups are filled with a variety of people.

I know feminists who also disagree with this, and also support a lot of work for problems with men, especially their rate of suicide.

Every feminist is different, just like every other group.

But that would make Feminism not a monolithic hate group 100% dedicated to the oppression of all men everywhere and that cannot possibly be right.

Isn't there a Feminism Discussion Thread, somewhere?

Jo Swinson wins the leadership contest. She should be an antidote to our current gammony politics.

Excellent!

I think the current shortest amount of time as PM was a few months, so yes.

Right, now that I've managed to stop the Egyptian authorities from blocking my VPN, I'm back in action - and ready to help with historical errors of fact.

The shortest ever term in office of any Prime Minister was Wellington's 1834 government, which lasted 23 days.

The circumstances would be impossible to replicate in the modern era of mass communication, but summarising briefly... William IV dismissed Melbourne's first government, and asked the Duke of Wellington (previously Prime Minister 1828-30) to form a government. Wellington refused, and instead recommended Peel to the King. However, Peel was in Sardinia, so Wellington agreed to serve as Prime Minister until Peel could be summoned back to the UK, with Wellington serving as Prime Minister for 23 days. Wellington took on board the full formal panoply of offices and titles, serving as First Lord of the Treasury, Leader of the Lords, and Secretary of State (combining the Foreign Office, Home Office, and Colonial Office) for the duration.

Excluding Wellington's second term in office, which was self-consciously a caretaker administration, the shortest term in office of any Prime Minister was Rockingham's second ministry, which lasted 97 days from 27 March until Rockingham's death on 1 July 1782; clearly a circumstance that Johnson will be keen to avoid.

To beat Wellington's record, Johnson has to stay in office until the 17th of August. To beat Rockingham's record, he has to cling on until the very end of October (I think; quick calculation).

With Parliament about to go into Summer recess, Johnson could well beat Wellington's record.

Though, considering the rate of changes in British politics at the moment, I wouldn't like to bet on the likelihood of anything...

[Bombadil]

The Tories and their DUP allies have 321 votes, including Elphicke. Opposition parties and independents have 317. If, as polls suggest, the Liberal Democrats win the Welsh special election next month, that’ll increase to 318. And if Elphicke is eventually forced out and replaced in a special election by another opposition MP -- Dover was Labour-held before he took it in 2010 -- then the government will be down to 320, with the opposition on 319.

Elphicke's currently being charged with three counts of sexual assault.. but essentially you're looking at a PM who can be held to ransom by any one individual in his party.

As prime minister, Johnson will also have the smallest constituency majority (5,034 in Uxbridge and South Ruislip) of any PM since Labour’s Ramsay MacDonald in 1924.

I'm sure Brexit will be a smashing success in October.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

[Bonenburg]

yes we have ticket barriers over here but that is only on the bigger stations. I think the boat option is far easier to book without a creditcard. I don't have one because i dont like debt and i am a student.

[Bonenburg]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

So absolute monarchy?

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

So absolute monarchy?

yes

[Vassenor]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

We had a civil war over that. Your side lost.

[The Blaatschapen]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

Permanently?

But what if she dies? She still has to rule then?

[Galloism]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

Permanently?

But what if she dies? She still has to rule then?

Still better than Boris Johnson, no?

[Cerinda]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

[Dooom35796821595]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

Permanently?

But what if she dies? She still has to rule then?

Summon the royal necromancer!

[Dumb Ideologies]

Just dismiss Parliament, ban all political parties, and put HM Queen Elizabeth II permanently in control of the country's affairs.

We had a civil war over that. Your side lost.

Just a temporary ceasefire.

[Kowani]

So absolute monarchy?

yes

I’m gonna put that under no.

[Vassenor]

Also seems we're going cap in hand to the EU for help with the Tankers thing because the US won't lift a finger.

Remember how we were meant to be strong and stable enough to not need Europe's help with anything?

[Dooom35796821595]

Also seems we're going cap in hand to the EU for help with the Tankers thing because the US won't lift a finger.

Remember how we were meant to be strong and stable enough to not need Europe's help with anything?

Right. I forgot that phase five of Brexit was the disintegration of Europe.