UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The People’s Republics of Britain when?

Right now please, I even made a flag

I have better flags, choose your poison England. <.>

[The New California Republic]

Remove that blue, because in the event of a revolution you just know that the godawful SNP will take the opportunity in the chaos to declare independence, which the new government will either need to lie back and accept or quell with force.

The scots can try but it doesn't mean they'll succeed, Nicola Sturgeon is no William Wallace I can tell you that. Plus Scotland has other issues, I doubt the people would ready to fight and die for a new country that has a massive poverty, drug and alcohol problem.

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

[Cerinda]

The scots can try but it doesn't mean they'll succeed, Nicola Sturgeon is no William Wallace I can tell you that. Plus Scotland has other issues, I doubt the people would ready to fight and die for a new country that has a massive poverty, drug and alcohol problem.

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

I've also heard Scotland has a huge issue with mental health, my friend lives there and she said her area has had 7 suicides; I don't know if the rest of Scotland is like but obviously it needs to be addressed. I think the main reason Scotland has so many problems is because of the lack of support care and the constant squabbling between the SNP and Westminster.

[Fartsniffage]

The scots can try but it doesn't mean they'll succeed, Nicola Sturgeon is no William Wallace I can tell you that. Plus Scotland has other issues, I doubt the people would ready to fight and die for a new country that has a massive poverty, drug and alcohol problem.

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15PljTS2O8

[Dooom35796821595]

Right now please, I even made a flag

Remove that blue, because in the event of a revolution you just know that the godawful SNP will take the opportunity in the chaos to declare independence, which the new government will either need to lie back and accept or quell with force.

Or just declare it illegal, and issue arrest warrants for the Scottish government.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Remove that blue, because in the event of a revolution you just know that the godawful SNP will take the opportunity in the chaos to declare independence, which the new government will either need to lie back and accept or quell with force.

Or just declare it illegal, and issue arrest warrants for the Scottish government.

Channelling the PRC today are we?

[Dooom35796821595]

Or just declare it illegal, and issue arrest warrants for the Scottish government.

Channelling the PRC today are we?

So prosecuting proper cases of treason and sedition is channelling the PRC now? Since Scotland can’t become independent without a resolution from Westminster likley to require a majority in a referendum.

[Thermodolia]

Right now please, I even made a flag

I have better flags, choose your poison England. <.>

Gives new meaning to the 51st state

[Thermodolia]

Or just declare it illegal, and issue arrest warrants for the Scottish government.

Channelling the PRC today are we?

If anything it’s channelling the Spanish government

[The New California Republic]

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

I've also heard Scotland has a huge issue with mental health, my friend lives there and she said her area has had 7 suicides; I don't know if the rest of Scotland is like but obviously it needs to be addressed. I think the main reason Scotland has so many problems is because of the lack of support care and the constant squabbling between the SNP and Westminster.

Or lack of sunshine for part of the year might explain why everyone is so dour.

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o15PljTS2O8

Well I wouldn't go that far.

Remove that blue, because in the event of a revolution you just know that the godawful SNP will take the opportunity in the chaos to declare independence, which the new government will either need to lie back and accept or quell with force.

Or just declare it illegal, and issue arrest warrants for the Scottish government.

Or that too.

[Cerinda]

I've also heard Scotland has a huge issue with mental health, my friend lives there and she said her area has had 7 suicides; I don't know if the rest of Scotland is like but obviously it needs to be addressed. I think the main reason Scotland has so many problems is because of the lack of support care and the constant squabbling between the SNP and Westminster.

Or lack of sunshine for part of the year might explain why everyone is so dour.

I mean more people in Britiain have been diganosed with depression (including me) than ever before, makes sense consdiering that the tories are in charge.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The scots can try but it doesn't mean they'll succeed, Nicola Sturgeon is no William Wallace I can tell you that. Plus Scotland has other issues, I doubt the people would ready to fight and die for a new country that has a massive poverty, drug and alcohol problem.

Don't worry, I live in Scotland, I know all about the problems here.

At least the fringe is starting soon, a time where we can ignore some problems and happily indulge the others.

[The Huskar Social Union]

William Wallace is overrated, Robert the Bruce is where its at.

[Ism]

William Wallace is overrated, Robert the Bruce is where its at.

^

[Cerinda]

William Wallace is overrated, Robert the Bruce is where its at.

Or Sawney Bean, a true Scottish hero.

[The Archregimancy]

So this is what it feels like to vote for the winner in a political election/vote.

It's only taken me until my 50s to find out.

For reference (and bolding inserted to replicate original text; it's not my personal emphasis):

Dear [redacted],

I love this party.

I was just 17 when I became a Liberal Democrat. Honestly, if you'd have told me that I’d one day get the chance to write this post as the party's new leader I wouldn't have believed you.

The first thing I want to do is say a huge thank you to everyone who took part in this election. But special thanks must go to my good friend Ed Davey.

Over the last seven weeks, Ed's shown the country what an outstanding politician he is; energetic, passionate and thoughtful. We’ve debated and challenged each other in the way the contest deserved, but always in a spirit of friendship and unity. The contrast with the Conservative Party couldn’t be starker.

I also want to pay tribute to Vince Cable, whose leadership has put us in an exciting position to have a real impact on British politics.

And I want to pay tribute to all of you. You've not only challenged and tested us over the course of the contest, but your hard work has ensured the party I'm now so proud to lead is looking at a much brighter future.

Our first priority must be, of course, stopping Brexit. And as your new leader, it's right at the top of my agenda.

When I say Bollocks to Brexit I mean it. This isn’t a normal political issue. This is about the fundamental direction of our country for generations to come. Brexit in any form is a disaster for our country and we’ll do everything in our power to stop it.

The path to stopping Brexit starts by winning the Brecon and Radnorshire by-election. We must get Jane Dodds into Parliament and get add another MP in favour of a People's Vote to our cause.

See you there!
We're at a pivotal moment. Our country needs a strong, liberal movement more than ever, and that is what we are going to build.

This is only the country of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson if we let it be. We all know that Britain deserves better than both of them.

Their narrow-minded nationalism can be beaten. And the people who are going to beat it are the thousands of you reading this and the thousands more who are going to join us along the way.

Only the Liberal Democrats have the values, the ideas and the sheer bloody determination to stand up to those who are doing so much to damage our country. This is our time.

The road ahead will be hard, but anything that is ever worth doing is hard. I know that together we can take this party further than we have ever been and make Britain the open, positive, liberal country that we all believe in.

Thank you again. Now let's get to work.

Jo Swinson
Leader of the Liberal Democrats

[The Blaatschapen]

Tomorrow will be an interesting day, as the Houses of Parliament go on summer break on Thursday and doesn't come back until 3rd of September. So to get Boris out, the sooner they act the better.

If Boris loses the vote does that make him the shortest PM?

Only if they cut him in half, like the Tories plan to do with the homeless

[The Archregimancy]

William Wallace is overrated, Robert the Bruce is where its at.

The true connoisseur of medieval Scottish history would surely pick Andy Murray over either Wallace or Robert I.

The 13th-century version, that is; not the tennis player. I've always found it odd that nats don't play on the reference; maybe they just don't know their Scottish history well enough.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

William Wallace is overrated, Robert the Bruce is where its at.

The true connoisseur of medieval Scottish history would surely pick Andy Murray over either Wallace or Robert I.

The 13th-century version, that is; not the tennis player. I've always found it odd that nats don't play on the reference; maybe they just don't know their Scottish history well enough.

I would pick the tennis player over Wallace too tbh.

[The Archregimancy]

If Boris loses the vote does that make him the shortest PM?

I think the current shortest amount of time as PM was a few months, so yes.

Right, now that I've managed to stop the Egyptian authorities from blocking my VPN, I'm back in action - and ready to help with historical errors of fact.

The shortest ever term in office of any Prime Minister was Wellington's 1834 government, which lasted 23 days.

The circumstances would be impossible to replicate in the modern era of mass communication, but summarising briefly... William IV dismissed Melbourne's first government, and asked the Duke of Wellington (previously Prime Minister 1828-30) to form a government. Wellington refused, and instead recommended Peel to the King. However, Peel was in Sardinia, so Wellington agreed to serve as Prime Minister until Peel could be summoned back to the UK, with Wellington serving as Prime Minister for 23 days. Wellington took on board the full formal panoply of offices and titles, serving as First Lord of the Treasury, Leader of the Lords, and Secretary of State (combining the Foreign Office, Home Office, and Colonial Office) for the duration.

Excluding Wellington's second term in office, which was self-consciously a caretaker administration, the shortest term in office of any Prime Minister was Rockingham's second ministry, which lasted 97 days from 27 March until Rockingham's death on 1 July 1782; clearly a circumstance that Johnson will be keen to avoid.

To beat Wellington's record, Johnson has to stay in office until the 17th of August. To beat Rockingham's record, he has to cling on until the very end of October (I think; quick calculation).

[Bonenburg]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

[Salandriagado]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

If you're from outside the UK, there's a thing called a BritRail pass that's apparently an excellent deal. At least two of us live in York, me included, so you can probably get some solid advice on other stuff about the area.

[Bonenburg]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

If you're from outside the UK, there's a thing called a BritRail pass that's apparently an excellent deal. At least two of us live in York, me included, so you can probably get some solid advice on other stuff about the area.

Yes i am from the Netherlands aka Holland.

[The New California Republic]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

You can get something called a moving toilet Megabus to York if you are on a tight budget (depending on where you are travelling to and from).

[Bonenburg]

Excuse to disturb your political discussion.

Are train in the UK so expensive that you have to avoid them? I want to visit York and some cities around it.

You can get something called a moving toilet Megabus to York if you are on a tight budget (depending on where you are travelling to and from).

Well, i don't mind taking a little longer. The only problem is that the airports are very far from my area, the nearest is 2 hours using trains and that is a smaller one. I think i want to spend like 500-600 euro for like a long weekend.

I know the boat goes from Rotterdam to Hull and new castle. The Eurostar train is an option but from my town to london is like 6 hours with trains. So it is more of cost comparisson really.