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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:32 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
You realise it's sung at the end of every single Labour party conference, right? It's literally the party's official anthem.

Yes, I know this. And that’s a disgrace too.

Glad to hear that parties having anthems is bad now. :^)
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:01 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:You realise it's sung at the end of every single Labour party conference, right? It's literally the party's official anthem.

Yes, I know this. And that’s a disgrace too.

How dare political parties sing songs at their own conferences(!). They should all be puppet parties that adhere to the script that The Party gives them(!) :roll:
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Lying to the Queen. That's a beheading.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Wouldn't it work better for the UK to pay farmers enough money to support themselves, so they could grow more food and export it really cheaply and drive farmers in other countries out of business?

I thought taxes were extortion. Now you want to outspend the entire EU?

I guess GVH is all for government-run command economy.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:26 am

Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

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Proud Boris's Army,
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:26 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Lying to the Queen. That's a beheading.

Even though many British laws date back to dark medieval times, that is not how it is done anymore.


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Postby Chestaan » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:28 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Aside from you apparently getting upset that people hold views different to you I'm not sure what the problem is.

First of all singing in the chamber is deeply inappropriate but could be excused if some patriotic song were broken into in the wake of a national catastrophe. Second of all, it’s a song about revolution and hoisting a red flag. It has no place in Her Majesty’s Parliament.


Seems like you are doing an awful lot of flinching and sneering...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:29 am

Risottia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I thought taxes were extortion. Now you want to outspend the entire EU?

I guess GVH is all for government-run command economy.

Evidently.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:29 am

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Philjia wrote:But only according to Scotlands highest civil court, so they'll almost certainly have to go to the supreme court for the ruling to stick.


[haughty southerner noises] the supreme court can make a real decision after being advised by the tartan sandbox test server.

Southerner noises... there must be a southern pansy somewhere.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
Risottia wrote:I guess GVH is all for government-run command economy.

Evidently.

B-but that would be HARDCORE STALINISM!


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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:34 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Evidently.

B-but that would be HARDCORE STALINISM!

Surely you mean DANGEROUS SOCIALISM!
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:37 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:B-but that would be HARDCORE STALINISM!

Surely you mean DANGEROUS SOCIALISM!


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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:39 am

Risottia wrote:
Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

O Court of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Boris's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tæ think again.

I hope the Supreme Court (SCOTUK?) upholds the ruling, so I can see BoJo's total humiliation at the reopening of Parliament.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:41 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Lying to the Queen. That's a beheading.

Even though many British laws date back to dark medieval times, that is not how it is done anymore.


Surely we can at least put him on a pike?
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Postby Dejanic » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:42 am

This is a great episode of the new series of British politics. Unexpected plot twist up in Scotland. What will BoJo (BJ as I call him) do next?
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:48 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Evidently.

B-but that would be HARDCORE STALINISM!

I demand my hardcore stalinism right now. With AK-toting KGB belles and blackjack.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:49 am

Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

To me, this is like a state supreme court in the US declaring something the federal .gov did unlawful. Is this even allowed in the UK?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:56 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

To me, this is like a state supreme court in the US declaring something the federal .gov did unlawful. Is this even allowed in the UK?

This case was brought in a Scottish court because at the time the High Court in England was on holiday.

But that does not diminish the effect of the ruling, as the case was against the actions of the Westminister government which, within the devolution settlement, affects the whole of the UK.

So the ruling in Edinburgh is binding on the UK government - although this is by no means the end of the legal battle since the case will now be appealed to the UK Supreme Court which will make a definitive decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49650729
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:58 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Even though many British laws date back to dark medieval times, that is not how it is done anymore.

Surely we can at least put him on a pike?

Absolutely unacceptable, that would be highly unhygienic.


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Postby Philjia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:59 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

To me, this is like a state supreme court in the US declaring something the federal .gov did unlawful. Is this even allowed in the UK?

The government can't do anything illegal. Normally they can just ask parliament to make it legal but the government at the moment lack the necessary majority.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:02 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Philjia wrote:Scotlands highest civil court has ruled that the suspension of parliament was unlawful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

To me, this is like a state supreme court in the US declaring something the federal .gov did unlawful. Is this even allowed in the UK?

It's more like the 9th Circuit striking down a federal law.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:10 am

Dejanic wrote:This is a great episode of the new series of British politics. Unexpected plot twist up in Scotland. What will BoJo (BJ as I call him) do next?

BJ? Please reconsider, because it would be immoral to compare the blonde Brexiteer with something pleasant.


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Postby Nimzonia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:10 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Aside from you apparently getting upset that people hold views different to you I'm not sure what the problem is.

First of all singing in the chamber is deeply inappropriate but could be excused if some patriotic song were broken into in the wake of a national catastrophe. Second of all, it’s a song about revolution and hoisting a red flag. It has no place in Her Majesty’s Parliament.


As we all know, parliament's only legitimate function is to put on an embarrassingly outmoded 18th century pantomime for the entertainment of out of touch public schoolboys.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:18 am

Philjia wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:To me, this is like a state supreme court in the US declaring something the federal .gov did unlawful. Is this even allowed in the UK?

The government can't do anything illegal. Normally they can just ask parliament to make it legal but the government at the moment lack the necessary majority.

I beg your pardon? Of course the government can do something illegal. It has legal personality, thus it has duties which it can violate.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:37 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Surely we can at least put him on a pike?

Absolutely unacceptable, that would be highly unhygienic.

How about putting him on a salmon then?
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