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Just a question, given parliamentary sovereignty, can parliament decide to not be suspended?

The Blaatschapen wrote:Just a question, given parliamentary sovereignty, can parliament decide to not be suspended?

Not directly. They could, however, order the Prime Minister to advise the Queen to cancel the order to prorogue parliament.

Vassenor wrote:

Nova Cyberia wrote:To prevent a no deal Brexit from being blocked.

Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.

I think we had a vote on leaving.....

The Nihilistic view wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.

I think we had a vote on leaving.....

there is no majority in parliament or public opinion for a no deal brexit. quit the bullshit.

The Nihilistic view wrote:

Vassenor wrote:Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.

I think we had a vote on leaving.....

A non-binding vote, even. Mind you, that was three years ago. Since then a few things have changed.

Nova Cyberia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:Protests against Prorogation grind Westminster to a halt

#stopthecoup

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

because stupid is stupid no matter how legal and binding it is
and this whole thing is stupid and may well doom britain for a spell
but apparently selling yourselves at a lark to trumpamericainc for a shot of maybe reestablishing nineteenth century inequalities and failing is plenty of sovereignty and ah

Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

So you agree this whole Brexit thing should never have happened?

Nova Cyberia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:Protests against Prorogation grind Westminster to a halt

#stopthecoup

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

And it's totally a coincidence that he got Parliament suspended the day after the opposition announced they were pursuing legislative means to block No Deal.

Hurdergaryp wrote:

The Nihilistic view wrote:I think we had a vote on leaving.....

A non-binding vote, even. Mind you, that was three years ago. Since then a few things have changed.

then non-binding
now bound and gagged
without the prospect of anyone hearing the fucking safe word

Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

When Parliament voted to block No Deal back in March.

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

remember when all the leave campaigners and politicians said that no deal was a million to one possibility and we'd be walking out with a smashing deal in no time at all. that's when they said it. or rather, the opposite.

Vassenor wrote:

Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

So you agree this whole Brexit thing should never have happened?

Just not in this way.

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

Show us your mandate for the act of national auto-irrumatio that is no deal brexit and we shall show you ours.

Greater Loegria wrote:

Salandriagado wrote:
And, very clearly, decided not to leave without a deal. Repeatedly.

That’s not in their gift. Article 50 has been triggered. We must at some point leave, on whatever terms we secure.

Article 50 can be revoked.

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Vassenor wrote:Protests against Prorogation grind Westminster to a halt

#stopthecoup

Excellent.

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Nova Cyberia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:Protests against Prorogation grind Westminster to a halt

#stopthecoup

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.

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Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

You do seem to be very bad at them.

Souseiseki wrote:

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

remember when all the leave campaigners and politicians said that no deal was a million to one possibility and we'd be walking out with a smashing deal in no time at all. that's when they said it. or rather, the opposite.

Shame nobody who believed it has had the chance till now.

Ifreann wrote:

Greater Loegria wrote:That’s not in their gift. Article 50 has been triggered. We must at some point leave, on whatever terms we secure.

Article 50 can be revoked.

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Vassenor wrote:Protests against Prorogation grind Westminster to a halt

#stopthecoup

Excellent.

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Nova Cyberia wrote:It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.

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Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

You do seem to be very bad at them.

I disagree with the idea of referenda

Greater Loegria wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Article 50 can be revoked.

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Excellent.

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Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.

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You do seem to be very bad at them.

I disagree with the idea of referenda

I'm not terribly surprised.

We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.

Vassenor wrote:We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.

That went pretty fast, yes.

Hurdergaryp wrote:

Vassenor wrote:We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.

That went pretty fast, yes.

>80,869 signatures in the last hour

Vassenor wrote:

Hurdergaryp wrote:That went pretty fast, yes.

>80,869 signatures in the last hour

That's got to be some kind of a record.

North German Realm wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
>80,869 signatures in the last hour

That's got to be some kind of a record.

I don't know, there was one to revoke article 50 that went viral. Got to 6 million.