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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:13 am

Just a question, given parliamentary sovereignty, can parliament decide to not be suspended?
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:14 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:Just a question, given parliamentary sovereignty, can parliament decide to not be suspended?


Not directly. They could, however, order the Prime Minister to advise the Queen to cancel the order to prorogue parliament.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:22 am

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Nova Cyberia wrote:To prevent a no deal Brexit from being blocked.


Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.


I think we had a vote on leaving.....
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:31 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.


I think we had a vote on leaving.....


there is no majority in parliament or public opinion for a no deal brexit. quit the bullshit.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:32 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Or rather to force through a No Deal Brexit with no democratic mandate.

I think we had a vote on leaving.....

A non-binding vote, even. Mind you, that was three years ago. Since then a few things have changed.


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Postby Duhon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:34 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?


because stupid is stupid no matter how legal and binding it is
and this whole thing is stupid and may well doom britain for a spell
but apparently selling yourselves at a lark to trumpamericainc for a shot of maybe reestablishing nineteenth century inequalities and failing is plenty of sovereignty and ah

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Postby Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:34 am

Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:35 am

Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.


So you agree this whole Brexit thing should never have happened?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:35 am

Nova Cyberia wrote:

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?


And it's totally a coincidence that he got Parliament suspended the day after the opposition announced they were pursuing legislative means to block No Deal. :roll:
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Postby Duhon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:36 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:I think we had a vote on leaving.....

A non-binding vote, even. Mind you, that was three years ago. Since then a few things have changed.


then non-binding
now bound and gagged
without the prospect of anyone hearing the fucking safe word

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:41 am

Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:42 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.


When Parliament voted to block No Deal back in March.
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:43 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.


remember when all the leave campaigners and politicians said that no deal was a million to one possibility and we'd be walking out with a smashing deal in no time at all. that's when they said it. or rather, the opposite.
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Postby Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.


So you agree this whole Brexit thing should never have happened?

Just not in this way.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:53 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.

Show us your mandate for the act of national auto-irrumatio that is no deal brexit and we shall show you ours.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:00 pm

Greater Loegria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
And, very clearly, decided not to leave without a deal. Repeatedly.

That’s not in their gift. Article 50 has been triggered. We must at some point leave, on whatever terms we secure.

Article 50 can be revoked.



Excellent.


Nova Cyberia wrote:

It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.


Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

You do seem to be very bad at them.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:01 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:Just wondering where it said there had to be a deal to leave.


remember when all the leave campaigners and politicians said that no deal was a million to one possibility and we'd be walking out with a smashing deal in no time at all. that's when they said it. or rather, the opposite.


Shame nobody who believed it has had the chance till now.
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Postby Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:That’s not in their gift. Article 50 has been triggered. We must at some point leave, on whatever terms we secure.

Article 50 can be revoked.



Excellent.


Nova Cyberia wrote:It's not a coup lmao this is so stupid.

Parliament was legally suspended after Johnson got the Queen's permission.

Why is so much of the left so hysterical these days?

Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.


Greater Loegria wrote:Having a referendum on this was a terrible idea.

You do seem to be very bad at them.


I disagree with the idea of referenda
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:06 pm

Greater Loegria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Article 50 can be revoked.



Excellent.



Parliament hasn't actually been suspended yet.



You do seem to be very bad at them.


I disagree with the idea of referenda

I'm not terribly surprised.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:12 pm

We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:30 pm

Vassenor wrote:We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.

That went pretty fast, yes.


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Postby Vassenor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:34 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Vassenor wrote:We've cracked three quarters of a million signatures.

That went pretty fast, yes.


>80,869 signatures in the last hour
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:49 pm

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Hurdergaryp wrote:That went pretty fast, yes.


>80,869 signatures in the last hour

That's got to be some kind of a record.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:57 pm

North German Realm wrote:
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>80,869 signatures in the last hour

That's got to be some kind of a record.

I don't know, there was one to revoke article 50 that went viral. Got to 6 million.
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