UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49021081

I imagine it happened like a Tom and Jerry cartoon...

Nah. Both Tom and Jerry always had a plan.

Did they though? Did they?

[Fartsniffage]

Nah. Both Tom and Jerry always had a plan.

Did they though? Did they?

I never said it was a good plan....

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well for one, I hope whatever government we get is the least competent group of idiots possible.

[Fartsniffage]

Well for one, I hope whatever government we get is the least competent group of idiots possible.

Of course you do.

[Salandriagado]

Sorry was there a point you were trying to make here?

That the people who want looser immigration controls are the same people who want greater LGBT exceptance, and act surprised when one group they have championed act against the interest of another.

It's almost, almost like we're thinking of people as fucking people, rather than stereotypes.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Well for one, I hope whatever government we get is the least competent group of idiots possible.

Of course you do.

We should my cousin as foreign secretary. He's 5, but asks some seriously weird political questions, the most recent being:
'Do father Christmas, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny have a union?'

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That the people who want looser immigration controls are the same people who want greater LGBT exceptance, and act surprised when one group they have championed act against the interest of another.

It's almost, almost like we're thinking of people as fucking people, rather than stereotypes.

No. It's that you get outraged when a group of people who are known not to be the most lgbt-friendly show that they're not lgbt-friendly.

[Cerinda]

And he'll most likely be our next prime minister. Although I absolutely despise Jeremy Hunt, I think he's a sleazy slimeball who would sell out our NHS in a second, he's definitely the better option in only that he's competent, Boris on the other hand...

Nah, screw both of them. I want a general election after this sorry shitshow. Jeremy Corbyn is 100% guaranteed to handle things better than this pathetic government has.

With that I would agree.

[Fartsniffage]

Of course you do.

We should my cousin as foreign secretary. He's 5, but asks some seriously weird political questions, the most recent being:
'Do father Christmas, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny have a union?'

So you're really hoping for a better foreign secretary than Bojo was....

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We should my cousin as foreign secretary. He's 5, but asks some seriously weird political questions, the most recent being:
'Do father Christmas, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny have a union?'

So you're really hoping for a better foreign secretary than Bojo was....

I don't know, because his biggest fear is probably if they go on strike, Christmas being cancelled. My uncle has taught him all about those 'bastard selfish train drivers making everyones life a misery,' and how they should be 'forced to work by the police.' So yeah, probably would be worse than Boris.

[Salandriagado]

It's almost, almost like we're thinking of people as fucking people, rather than stereotypes.

No. It's that you get outraged when a group of people who are known not to be the most lgbt-friendly show that they're not lgbt-friendly.

No. We criticise people who do bad things, but we realise that they're still people, and still have rights.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

No. It's that you get outraged when a group of people who are known not to be the most lgbt-friendly show that they're not lgbt-friendly.

No. We criticise people who do bad things, but we realise that they're still people, and still have rights.

Then why don't you agree with my position of 'I don't like what they're protesting for but they still have the right to protest?'

[Duhon]

That pious homophobes are being let in due to their plight does not mean that they are right and will thus be treated as golden cows, effectively beyond criticism.

Thus it is to affirm their humanity both ways -- by saving them from lives of desperation and desolation, yet criticizing them for their more dubious choices, and if need be using the state to restrain and punish them should they think blows are their way out.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

That pious homophobes are being let in due to their plight does not mean that they are right and will thus be treated as golden cows, effectively beyond criticism.

Thus it is to affirm their humanity both ways -- by saving them from lives of desperation and desolation, yet criticizing them for their more dubious choices, and if need be using the state to restrain and punish them should they think blows are their way out.

We have no duty to save anyone from a life of desolation aside from genuine asylum seekers.

[Duhon]

We have no duty to save anyone from a life of desolation aside from genuine asylum seekers.

You have a moral if not a legal duty to do so -- but then again I am talking to you.

[Chan Island]

Well for one, I hope whatever government we get is the least competent group of idiots possible.

And now we head back to our regular schedule of people who don't want to watch the country they live in burn down to the ground.

[Salandriagado]

No. We criticise people who do bad things, but we realise that they're still people, and still have rights.

Then why don't you agree with my position of 'I don't like what they're protesting for but they still have the right to protest?'

Quote where I said that, or apologise for fucking lying about me.

[Salandriagado]

We have no duty to save anyone from a life of desolation aside from genuine asylum seekers.

These people are genuine asylum seekers. You can tell by how they turned up, seeked asylum, and our government - which has a frankly terrible history of sending back people who absolutely are legitimate asylum seekers - decided that their claim to asylum was legitimate.

[Chan Island]

No. We criticise people who do bad things, but we realise that they're still people, and still have rights.

Then why don't you agree with my position of 'I don't like what they're protesting for but they still have the right to protest?'

Who here has actually said that? Far as I see, everyone is saying they don't like the protest, but they are not saying anything about their right too. Except for nativist rightwingers who's broken clock go to solution is to send them all to some other country.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We have no duty to save anyone from a life of desolation aside from genuine asylum seekers.

These people are genuine asylum seekers. You can tell by how they turned up, seeked asylum, and our government - which has a frankly terrible history of sending back people who absolutely are legitimate asylum seekers - decided that their claim to asylum was legitimate.

You are claiming that everybody who has been protesting in front of these schools is a genuine asylum seeker? Not...you know, someone who immigrated the normal way?

I'll find the post I'm referring to in the other quote.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Then why don't you agree with my position of 'I don't like what they're protesting for but they still have the right to protest?'

Who here has actually said that? Far as I see, everyone is saying they don't like the protest, but they are not saying anything about their right too. Except for nativist rightwingers who's broken clock go to solution is to send them all to some other country.

People supporting the terrible court decision granting the school an injunction are not supporting their right to protest.

[Salandriagado]

These people are genuine asylum seekers. You can tell by how they turned up, seeked asylum, and our government - which has a frankly terrible history of sending back people who absolutely are legitimate asylum seekers - decided that their claim to asylum was legitimate.

You are claiming that everybody who has been protesting in front of these schools is a genuine asylum seeker? Not...you know, someone who immigrated the normal way?

No. Try reading my post and understanding it before replying.

Or don't, because this discussion is not continuing until you apologise for lying about me.

[Fartsniffage]

Who here has actually said that? Far as I see, everyone is saying they don't like the protest, but they are not saying anything about their right too. Except for nativist rightwingers who's broken clock go to solution is to send them all to some other country.

People supporting the terrible court decision granting the school an injunction are not supporting their right to protest.

I'm all for protesting outside Parliament or outside a local council office. Protesting outside a school achieves nothing. Schools don't decide on the national curriculum.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You are claiming that everybody who has been protesting in front of these schools is a genuine asylum seeker? Not...you know, someone who immigrated the normal way?

No. Try reading my post and understanding it before replying.

Or don't, because this discussion is not continuing until you apologise for lying about me.

"Freedom of choice" =/= "freedom to indoctrinate other people". Nor is it the same as "freedom to have public schools help you indoctrinate other people".

You, 2019

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You are claiming that everybody who has been protesting in front of these schools is a genuine asylum seeker? Not...you know, someone who immigrated the normal way?

No. Try reading my post and understanding it before replying.

Or don't, because this discussion is not continuing until you apologise for lying about me.

'these people are genuine asylum seekers.'

I was referring to the protesters, which 'these people' were you referring to?