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by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Nothing could turn more royalists republican.
Firstly, no research has been done that I am aware of to say that royalists all (or, even as a majority) support Brexit.
Secondly, if we got a republican system, that works for me, too. We'd have an elected upper house, similar to Congress and with the power to block any of the Prime Minister's attempts to pass executive orders (unlike the House of Lords, whose function I sometimes question).
Royal prerogative or an upper house -- either/or -- no national leader should ever have the right of circumventing elected officials.
Right now, we have a queen with royal prerogative. As one of the sole remaining arguments was that the referendum was a democratic vote (as the promise about the NHS cannot be fulfilled, economic arguments are falling by the wayside as more businesses flee, and the government predicts shortages of medicines, food and fuel -- meaning it's hard to call it "project fear" anymore), supporting the undermining democracy to force it through seems to be a somewhat hypocritical action.
I mean, sure, you still have the old total sovereignty argument. But total sovereignty weighed against guaranteed access to trading partners with equivalent food and rights standards, employment, food, medicines, fuel, economic stability... Things that make peoples' daily lives better?
High ideals don't put food in stomachs.
by Ifreann » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:54 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Vassenor wrote:
And your solution for that is to put our laws at the mercy of the US and anyone else who feels like naming terms for trade deals
It’s a matter of principle. De jure ties to supranational legislative and judicial bodies ought to be severed. It’s not going to be the first time we deepthroat the Yanks, as sorry a state of affairs as it is.
Brexit was always going to be a catastrophic clusterfuck but the idea that our institutions can be superseded is simply not stomach-able. We should never have joined in the first place.
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:55 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:56 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:56 am
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:56 am
Ifreann wrote:Greater Loegria wrote:It’s a matter of principle. De jure ties to supranational legislative and judicial bodies ought to be severed. It’s not going to be the first time we deepthroat the Yanks, as sorry a state of affairs as it is.
Brexit was always going to be a catastrophic clusterfuck but the idea that our institutions can be superseded is simply not stomach-able. We should never have joined in the first place.
It's strange that on the one hand you seem to think that the supremacy of British institutions must be upheld, no matter the cost to the British people, but on the other hand you seem support those institutions being shut down and their power thwarted.
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:57 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:57 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:58 am
by Ifreann » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:58 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Ifreann wrote:It's strange that on the one hand you seem to think that the supremacy of British institutions must be upheld, no matter the cost to the British people, but on the other hand you seem support those institutions being shut down and their power thwarted.
No, the supremacy of British sovereignty. If the institutions need to be thwarted to achieve independence then so be it.
Our institutions are packed the rafters with globalist quislings.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:59 am
by Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:59 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:00 am
by The Free Joy State » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:02 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Should I change the name of this thread? I've just realised that where it goes off the screen on 'latest threads,' it displays as 'Boris' big bonk.'
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:04 am
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:06 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Should I change the name of this thread? I've just realised that where it goes off the screen on 'latest threads,' it displays as 'Boris' big bonk.'
That's not an image anyone needs in their heads.
by Old Tyrannia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:06 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:06 am
Greater Loegria wrote:If the House of Windsor stoops so low as to betray the ancient nations of the English, Welsh, Scots and Ulstermen then yes. They would have to be removed.
by Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:07 am
by Gravlen » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:07 am
by Greater Loegria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 am
by Philjia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Ifreann wrote:It's strange that on the one hand you seem to think that the supremacy of British institutions must be upheld, no matter the cost to the British people, but on the other hand you seem support those institutions being shut down and their power thwarted.
No, the supremacy of British sovereignty. If the institutions need to be thwarted to achieve independence then so be it.
Our institutions are packed the rafters with globalist quislings.
Nemesis the Warlock wrote:I am the Nemesis, I am the Warlock, I am the shape of things to come, the Lord of the Flies, holder of the Sword Sinister, the Death Bringer, I am the one who waits on the edge of your dreams, I am all these things and many more
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Greater Loegria wrote:Bring on the motorbike death squads tbh
Given everything that you've revealed about yourself since joining this forum, I'm shocked that you haven't realised yet that you'll be on the first boat to the South Georgia internment camp.Greater vakolicci haven wrote:If she turns out to be, yes.
And you.
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