UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Ifreann]

Or, logically, 4 million litres of water, which would be a bit easier to get into the Chunnel.

How would water keep the Frogs out?

They only swim in wine.

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Where's the trans money tho? I want to make British terfs angry

I've heard from others that Britain has far too many TERFs. Is that true?

They've more or less taken over Mumsnet, aka Prosecco Stormfront.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

Feminism is like prosecco. Disgusting, but everyone drinks it anyway.

Then you don't understand feminism if you only see the bad of it.

LOL dude, it is not exactly James Joyce, not difficult to understand.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

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So around 45% of young men in the UK have concluded feminism is a hate movement, as well as 25% of young women, according to a recent poll commissioned by "Hope not hate".

This is 40% more than call themselves feminists on the male side, and 5% more than call themselves feminist on the female side.

Anti-feminists comprise about 33% of the population, up significantly from a few years ago where it was 7%.
Feminists comprise around 20% of the population.

This should also be viewed in conjunction with the polls showing 66% of British people think feminism needs to stop. (Suggesting a "Peak feminism" support of around 34% theoretically.).

Naturally the people who commissioned the poll have gone batshit, claiming it is evidence of a far-right surge, rather than evidence the MRM and others are gaining ground in its arguments against feminism.

47% of the population apparently don't care enough to commit either way on whether feminism is a hate movement, but that in itself is good news for anti-feminists given that implies a total lack of mandate for feminist attempts to monopolize the cultural discourse on equality. Especially when, again, considered in conjunction with the two-thirds of British society who think feminism needs to end. A significantly more popular proposal than Brexit. We're getting rid of the wrong administrators and politicians. We should stay in Europe, and sack all the feminists, it's a more agreeable proposal.

The reason it doesn't happen is the aforementioned group of feminists?

Overwhelmingly white, upper-middle class women. In a society like ours, that affords them extremely disproportionate influence. Despite the media portrayal of it as a young, revolutionary or grassroots movement, it is extremely institutionalized and old. (Indeed, middle aged women are more likely to call themselves feminists than women under 30.).

The polling over the last decade or so also suggests that feminism has peaked out in terms of support despite the institutional push to get it mainstreamed, it remains static in terms of support with occasional collapses. Anti-feminism meanwhile has ticked steadily upwards.

Once Brexit is dealt with, the next big social issue could well be anti-feminism. There's two ways that goes down:

1. Pro-MRM
2. Pure Anti-Feminism.

The former would involve either increased government spending or redirecting money going into womens groups partially to mens groups. The latter would just mean cutting funding to womens groups, which can then probably be laundered off to the ultra-rich.

Given the trajectory of the country, I expect the latter will take hold unless the MRM becomes mainstreamed. Moreover, assuming Brexit actually happens (big if), feminism will suffer a major blow due to EU funding for feminist projects, propaganda and so on, as well as laws and court rulings (if we also leave the European court) obliging the UK toward upholding a feminist agenda on several issues.

Feminism seems reliant on a monopoly of legitimized discourse, and cannot/will not survive in a space where debate and alternative viewpoints are also aired. Less funds from the EU might well be the breaking point.

I love your posts because they're 80% right for 80% the wrong reasons.

Feminism (and meninism, feminisms little brother) are death sentences for a civilisation. It will be, and has been, and is, a big issue, but it is not recognised as such.

Meninism is used only as a parody or as a snarl. You're thinking of "men's rights activism." And neither are inherently bad. Both are good insofar as when they genuinely peacefully advocate for human rights, and bad insofar as when they advocate one gender be given unfair priveliges, or when they push a collectivist, divisive worldview which usually results in the violation of people's rights.

[Bear Stearns]

Feminism isn't bad.
Like any group, there are many different types of people.

Feminism is like prosecco. Disgusting, but everyone drinks it anyway.

Or rosé. Basic bitches drink it.

[Nakena]

I've heard from others that Britain has far too many TERFs. Is that true?

Sounds like it. At least, all of the trans and left people I follow on social media have made a very strong case on that. TERFs seem to be numerous and, more worrisome still, powerful. Like, "getting people suspended from Twitter for talking about them" powerful.

TERFs should be fought by a Queerfront.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Yay gay money.

Where's the trans money tho? I want to make British terfs angry

I guess you could argue Turing was made gender dysphoric by the state?

I don't really know if we've got anyone who's trans and money material yet. I guess we could just put someone totally trivial on the tenner to upset the TERFs even more.

[The Blaatschapen]

Ah, that's what the hubbub of the 50 pound note is about.

I should get me one.

[Vassenor]

Ah, that's what the hubbub of the 50 pound note is about.

I should get me one.

>assuming the pound won't have gone full Zimbabwe by the time these notes drop

[The Blaatschapen]

Ah, that's what the hubbub of the 50 pound note is about.

I should get me one.

>assuming the pound won't have gone full Zimbabwe by the time these notes drop

Then I have new wallpaper

[Nakena]

>assuming the pound won't have gone full Zimbabwe by the time these notes drop

Then I have new wallpaper

Queen Elizabeth II looking at you from the walls.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Where's the trans money tho? I want to make British terfs angry

I've heard from others that Britain has far too many TERFs. Is that true?

They're definitely a very vocal group, I'm not sure if we have more of them than anywhere else particularly though.

[The Blaatschapen]

Then I have new wallpaper

Queen Elizabeth II looking at you from the walls.

No. Alan Turing.

[Nakena]

I've heard from others that Britain has far too many TERFs. Is that true?

They're definitely a very vocal group, I'm not sure if we have more of them than anywhere else particularly though.

FeministCurrent a major TERFist publication is based in Vancouver, BC.

Queen Elizabeth II looking at you from the walls.

No. Alan Turing.

I forgot about this.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

Lots of places don't accept the 50 pounds note.

[The Blaatschapen]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

Lots of places don't accept the 50 pounds note.

Well, lots of places don't accept gay people. So, in a cruel way, this is fitting

[Souseiseki]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

so they put him on a rarely used note that is almost never used, one that they seriously considered just abolishing a few years ago

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Nakena]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

so they put him on a rarely used note that is almost never used, one that they seriously considered just abolishing a few years ago

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

They did it but only half-assed.

[Vassenor]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

so they put him on a rarely used note that is almost never used, one that they seriously considered just abolishing a few years ago

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah its exactly that messed up.

[Dumb Ideologies]

My conservative in-laws often give a fiddy for birthdays / Christmasses, I think it's a bit of a status thing. Making them flash gay money is absolutely perfect.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

My conservative in-laws often give a fiddy for birthdays / Christmasses, I think it's a bit of a status thing. Making them flash gay money is absolutely perfect.

Even withdrawing hundreds from the cash point they never give fifties. Do you have to ask for them at the bank or something?

[Vassenor]

My conservative in-laws often give a fiddy for birthdays / Christmasses, I think it's a bit of a status thing. Making them flash gay money is absolutely perfect.

Even withdrawing hundreds from the cash point they never give fifties. Do you have to ask for them at the bank or something?

Yes. Cash machines are generally only loaded with 20s and sometimes 10s.

[The Blaatschapen]

My conservative in-laws often give a fiddy for birthdays / Christmasses, I think it's a bit of a status thing. Making them flash gay money is absolutely perfect.

Hard cash, that knows how to take a pound-ing

[Ifreann]

A shame not to put Alan Turing on the £10. £50 is basically unused by actual Britishers.

Lots of places don't accept the 50 pounds note.

What kind of ridiculous country are you people running where your own money isn't legal tender?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Lots of places don't accept the 50 pounds note.

What kind of ridiculous country are you people running where your own money isn't legal tender?

Northern Irish Notes are not legal tender in England, but English notes are legal tender in Northern Ireland.


Some people will still accept them but most wont from what i know