UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So, there will be freedom of movement between Ireland and the UK, but the UK can make its own immigration laws. This means there will be a Northern Ireland-sized gap in the external borders of the EU, liable to abuse of Ireland agrees to open borders and the UK performs some border fuckery.

[Risottia]

Hell, can it be passed by parliament?

DUP say they shan't vote for it.

[Ifreann]

I am reading the text of the deal right now.

Holy shit, who came up with this utter nonsense?

“No customs duties shall be payable for a good brought into Northern Ireland from another part of the United Kingdom by direct transport, unless that good is at risk of subsequently being moved into the Union”

When is a good at risk of being moved into the Union? Always, I should say. That’s how the Union works.

Some things you can count on being used in the North before they could cross the border. Like Magners, pallets, or flegs.

[The Free Joy State]

Hell, can it be passed by parliament?

DUP say they shan't vote for it.

Doubtful whether Labour would support Boris' deal. The Lib Dems are remain all the way. The Conservatives have no majority at all.

I doubt it has a prayer.

[Risottia]

I am reading the text of the deal right now.

Holy shit, who came up with this utter nonsense?

“No customs duties shall be payable for a good brought into Northern Ireland from another part of the United Kingdom by direct transport, unless that good is at risk of subsequently being moved into the Union”

When is a good at risk of being moved into the Union? Always, I should say. That’s how the Union works.

Some things you can count on being used in the North before they could cross the border. Like Magners, pallets, or flegs.

I thought Magners was brewed in Tipperary.

[The Blaatschapen]

I am reading the text of the deal right now.

Holy shit, who came up with this utter nonsense?

“No customs duties shall be payable for a good brought into Northern Ireland from another part of the United Kingdom by direct transport, unless that good is at risk of subsequently being moved into the Union”

When is a good at risk of being moved into the Union? Always, I should say. That’s how the Union works.

Some things you can count on being used in the North before they could cross the border. Like Magners, pallets, or flegs.

Guns, ammunition, explosives, etc.

[Ifreann]

Some things you can count on being used in the North before they could cross the border. Like Magners, pallets, or flegs.

I thought Magners was brewed in Tipperary.

Bulmers is made in Tipperary. Magners is transported into this reality through a tear in the dimensional fabric in a top secret location in Leicester.

[Vassenor]

So who backs what approach to the deal? I know Labour are all over Referendum Two.

[The Nihilistic view]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I am reading the text of the deal right now.

Holy shit, who came up with this utter nonsense?

“No customs duties shall be payable for a good brought into Northern Ireland from another part of the United Kingdom by direct transport, unless that good is at risk of subsequently being moved into the Union”

When is a good at risk of being moved into the Union? Always, I should say. That’s how the Union works.

Some things you can count on being used in the North before they could cross the border. Like Magners, pallets, or flegs.

I haven’t watched enough Foil, Arms and Hog to understand this joke.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

There is always revocation.

[Vassenor]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

Surely given that Parliament already blocked No Deal then voting down the deal should trigger revocation by default.

[Vassenor]

Also watching online polls backfire spectacularly is always fun.

[Hurdergaryp]

[The Nihilistic view]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

There is always revocation.

I don't think that would end well for the parties concerned. Short term despiration.

Genuine thoughts, does a deal with no backstop and a push for free trade surprise people? Because I feel like all the opposition parties didn't consider this being a possibility.

[The Nihilistic view]

Also watching online polls backfire spectacularly is always fun.

Must be Russian hackers.......

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

There is always revocation.

I don't think that would end well for the parties concerned. Short term despiration.

Genuine thoughts, does a deal with no backstop and a push for free trade surprise people? Because I feel like all the opposition parties didn't consider this being a possibility.

The backstop is still in there. Just more complicated. This is May’s deal with very slight alterations to how the Irish border works.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

Surely given that Parliament already blocked No Deal then voting down the deal should trigger revocation by default.

That’s not how Union law works, however. The PM will have to send a request.

[The Nihilistic view]

I don't think that would end well for the parties concerned. Short term despiration.

Genuine thoughts, does a deal with no backstop and a push for free trade surprise people? Because I feel like all the opposition parties didn't consider this being a possibility.

The backstop is still in there. Just more complicated. This is May’s deal with very slight alterations to how the Irish border works.

Not really, unless the BBC are lying their pants off..... the EU can't keep the UK in a customs union and Northern Ireland have the power to remove themselves from regulatory alignment. Backstop blown out of the water.

[Hirota]

I think they have little choice but to back it, the risk of no deal otherwise is too great and these are the guys that always said anything but no deal.

Surely given that Parliament already blocked No Deal then voting down the deal should trigger revocation by default.

no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change

[Salandriagado]

Holy moly. How many residential ones Then?

A couple of hundred, if you include student lets. Most of them are in shitty areas, but they do them up. Slum areas but not slum landlording practises.

Reminder that you've literally admitted in this very thread that many of said houses are unfit for human habitation.

[Souseiseki]

i must admit that the northern ireland rolling consent was unexpected. perhaps they consider it such a remote possibility that they will vote no that they're willing to accept it.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

A couple of hundred, if you include student lets. Most of them are in shitty areas, but they do them up. Slum areas but not slum landlording practises.

Reminder that you've literally admitted in this very thread that many of said houses are unfit for human habitation.

Were unfit. My parents spend a lot of money on making them not unfit, and try to have somebody out within the day if any maintenance issues come up.

I've answered maintenance queries before, if I'm doing that they won't even give me any leeway on responding to them virtually immediately. Fuck knows what turnaround time for responses for actual staff are like.

[Vassenor]

Legal challenge to Brexit deal - putting a border in the sea may be illegal.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Johnson is going to need quite a few Labour MPs to defy their leader to get this deal agreed. That's assuming all of the tories vote for it.

Cons 288
Lab 245
Scot Nat 35
Independents 35
Lib Dem 19
DUP 10
TIG 5
Plaid Cymru 4
Green 1