UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[The Huskar Social Union]

So Swedish news (and Reuters) is saying that with less than 1 and a half month left to Brelol the BoJo regime has finally submitted some loose ideas about a deal to Brussels. <.>

Written on napkins and the backs of beermats?

"Here are the technical papers for the deal"
".... this is a napkin"
"We prefer the term 'Technical Napkins"

[Hurdergaryp]

Written on napkins and the backs of beermats?

From what I've heard so far it's "We don't like backstop, give us unicorns." <.>
So same old same old...

The Brits already have a unicorn, it's right there on the front of their fancy new blue passport.

[The Huskar Social Union]

"One Labour MP says if the NEC pushes ahead with its plan to oust Watson, there will be a leadership challenge" -Rachel Wearmouth


Possibly another Labour leadership challenge in the future if this is true and gains enough traction from Labour MP's

[Philjia]

Jeremy Corbyn is very upset Momentum have been trying to do in Tom Watson, and has put a stop to them trying to abolish him.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Jeremy Corbyn is very upset Momentum have been trying to do in Tom Watson, and has put a stop to them trying to abolish him.

Nevermind then lol

Boy that was great timing.

[Philjia]

Jeremy Corbyn is very upset Momentum have been trying to do in Tom Watson, and has put a stop to them trying to abolish him.

Nevermind then lol

Boy that was great timing.

I assume the two stories are related, unless Jeremy actually just really likes Tom Watson.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Nevermind then lol

Boy that was great timing.

I assume the two stories are related, unless Jeremy actually just really likes Tom Watson.

Yeah bound to be related, just amused me is all.

[Myfanwyski]

Except keep in mind the Sun was saying that before the vote. So no, it's not a case of "she respects the result" it's a case of "she thinks people should vote Leave because we say she does".

you're on about-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35760912

but this might shed some light on that

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/26/queen-did-back-brexit-bbc-suggests-claims-said-wanted-get/

- but she will respect the result



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[Hirota]

Nevermind then lol

Boy that was great timing.

I assume the two stories are related, unless Jeremy actually just really likes Tom Watson.

They've frequently disagreed in the past, but I don't know if they like or dislike one another.

But no matter how fractured the Tories look, Labour insists on telling us to hold their beer before an act of one-upmanship.

So Swedish news (and Reuters) is saying that with less than 1 and a half month left to Brelol the BoJo regime has finally submitted some loose ideas about a deal to Brussels. <.>

Yeah we were talking about it a few pages back. Laura Kussenberg taught me what "non papers" are.

Anyhoo, there are some leaks suggesting the outline in the non papers isn't good enough. Take with pinch of salt as I don't think anything official has been said just yet.

Edit: sorry phone autocorrect did some inventive things there.

[Hirota]

Working class does not equal Uneducated.

I'd say there's a fairly large overlap.

Ah Nimz, you're a useful cudgel against the champagne socialist remainer lot who keep pretending only rich old people voted for Brexit, but I do dislike your casual contempt of the poor.

[Vassenor]

Except keep in mind the Sun was saying that before the vote. So no, it's not a case of "she respects the result" it's a case of "she thinks people should vote Leave because we say she does".

you're on about-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35760912

but this might shed some light on that

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/26/queen-did-back-brexit-bbc-suggests-claims-said-wanted-get/

- but she will respect the result



'

So what does that Telegraph article have to do with The Sun's reporting during the campaign? Your points are not following.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I'd say there's a fairly large overlap.

Ah Nimz, you're a useful cudgel against the champagne socialist remainer lot who keep pretending only rich old people voted for Brexit, but I do dislike your casual contempt of the poor.

Everyone should be a bitter angry disillusioned southern comfort socialist like me.



Actually.. no.. no dont do that.

[Nimzonia]

I'd say there's a fairly large overlap.

Ah Nimz, you're a useful cudgel against the champagne socialist remainer lot who keep pretending only rich old people voted for Brexit, but I do dislike your casual contempt of the poor.

It's now "casual contempt of the poor" to suggest that lower levels of education are broadly correlated with lower levels of income?

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile the Mail On Sunday is preparing to doxx people again.

[Gormwood]

Meanwhile the Mail On Sunday is preparing to doxx people again.

Looks like the Mail isn't satisfied with one dead Jo in the cause of Brexit.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Night of the dull knives at the Labour Party.

[Chan Island]

Night of the dull knives at the Labour Party.

It's such a bloody joke. Just when the Labour party finally had a solid message and a good look to strut around with, these politically deaf fools on the momentum side of things get to sinking that ship. Reminds me of that time they tried to deselect Rosie Duffield, and now she's one of the people rumoured to be felt out as another defection by the LibDems. Never mind her 187 vote majority for the first time ever Labour's won Canterbury.

It just beggars belief.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Night of the dull knives at the Labour Party.

Knives work when they shouldn't and fail when they shouldn't. Knives are nefarious, go back to guns. Even for spreading butter.

[Dooom35796821595]

A referendum to decide if they want to stay in the UK or unify with Ireland. Then try a new bilateral agreement to salvage what they can from the GFA. - If they vote to stay, it’s moot if they unify.

A referendum for unification can already be called as per the Good Friday Agreement already by the secretary of state if they deem there is enough grounds to call one, so thats already there.


And why should ireland negotiate a new deal and throw the GFA to the wolves hmm?

You know whats far better, if the UK went with a sea border and let NI stay aligned to the EU, would have avoided a ton of shit the UK is currently going through with its attempt to leave the EU. Or you know, do something that doesnt fuck over my home.

Because some of it is clearly incompatible with the UK leaving the EU.

Or the EU could allow the border situation to remain the same, since the UK isn’t likely to diverge from EU standards that much and it wouldn’t have much of an effect on the EU. Remember the EU is just as much to blame for the current NI issue as Westminster.

[Fartsniffage]

A referendum for unification can already be called as per the Good Friday Agreement already by the secretary of state if they deem there is enough grounds to call one, so thats already there.


And why should ireland negotiate a new deal and throw the GFA to the wolves hmm?

You know whats far better, if the UK went with a sea border and let NI stay aligned to the EU, would have avoided a ton of shit the UK is currently going through with its attempt to leave the EU. Or you know, do something that doesnt fuck over my home.

Because some of it is clearly incompatible with the UK leaving the EU.

Or the EU could allow the border situation to remain the same, since the UK isn’t likely to diverge from EU standards that much and it wouldn’t have much of an effect on the EU. Remember the EU is just as much to blame for the current NI issue as Westminster.

Free trade with the EU is contingent on free movement of people with the EU. Can't have one without the other no matter how much you want it.

[Dooom35796821595]

Because some of it is clearly incompatible with the UK leaving the EU.

Or the EU could allow the border situation to remain the same, since the UK isn’t likely to diverge from EU standards that much and it wouldn’t have much of an effect on the EU. Remember the EU is just as much to blame for the current NI issue as Westminster.

Free trade with the EU is contingent on free movement of people with the EU. Can't have one without the other no matter how much you want it.

Within the EU. But the UK won’t be in the EU.

[Fartsniffage]

Free trade with the EU is contingent on free movement of people with the EU. Can't have one without the other no matter how much you want it.

Within the EU. But the UK won’t be in the EU.

You know what? I no longer care. In/out deal/no deal, I just don't care any more. Let's just do something.

[Vassenor]

Free trade with the EU is contingent on free movement of people with the EU. Can't have one without the other no matter how much you want it.

Within the EU. But the UK won’t be in the EU.

Neither are the EEA nations or Switzerland but they are still subject to free movement of people.

[Dooom35796821595]

Within the EU. But the UK won’t be in the EU.

Neither are the EEA nations or Switzerland but they are still subject to free movement of people.

Switzerland is also part of the Schengen Area.

And Canada doesn’t, which is one reason why it was proposed as a potential framework for a future deal.

[Vassenor]

Neither are the EEA nations or Switzerland but they are still subject to free movement of people.

Switzerland is also part of the Schengen Area.

And Canada doesn’t, which is one reason why it was proposed as a potential framework for a future deal.

So if that's such a perfect solution why aren't we doing it?