UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[The Blaatschapen]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_th ... Succession for the 1710s

[Celritannia]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_th ... Succession for the 1710s

Yes, of course

[North German Realm]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

The beginning and the ending of every century has a "Game-changer". I never thought Trump would be a game-changer for this century.

[The Blaatschapen]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

The beginning and the ending of every century has a "Game-changer". I never thought Trump would be a game-changer for this century.

That still remains to be seen. His lasting influence will probably only be known after he left office.

So far, both the fall of Berlin wall/fall of the USSR and 9/11 have been more influential.

[North German Realm]

The beginning and the ending of every century has a "Game-changer". I never thought Trump would be a game-changer for this century.

That still remains to be seen. His lasting influence will probably only be known after he left office.

So far, both the fall of Berlin wall/fall of the USSR and 9/11 have been more influential.

Fall of Berlin was precisely the "Game-changer" event in the ending of the 20th century. And honestly maybe it'll not be that big a game-changer, but Trump coincided with a resurgence of the Far-right in many countries that had gotten rid of that infestation decades ago. Though technically Orban in Hungary preceded him.

[The Blaatschapen]

That still remains to be seen. His lasting influence will probably only be known after he left office.

So far, both the fall of Berlin wall/fall of the USSR and 9/11 have been more influential.

Fall of Berlin was precisely the "Game-changer" event in the ending of the 20th century. And honestly maybe it'll not be that big a game-changer, but Trump coincided with a resurgence of the Far-right in many countries that had gotten rid of that infestation decades ago. Though technically Orban in Hungary preceded him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn (2001-02)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders (2004 onwards)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen (2002 election)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Blok (1989-2004)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang (2004 onward)

Seriously, Trump was not even remotely the first (or second). Sure, they did not become the biggest in their respective countries, but resurged, they definitely did

[Shamhnan Insir]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

Poor awareness of history seems to be rife unfortunately. In this day and age where you can access information so easily it's difficult to see why, beyond shocking levels of ignorance and a surge of people very happy to lie and spread false information.
Was hoping this century we would finally take the steps forward needed to put humans into a proper space age.

[North German Realm]

Fall of Berlin was precisely the "Game-changer" event in the ending of the 20th century. And honestly maybe it'll not be that big a game-changer, but Trump coincided with a resurgence of the Far-right in many countries that had gotten rid of that infestation decades ago. Though technically Orban in Hungary preceded him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn (2001-02)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders (2004 onwards)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen (2002 election)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Le_Pen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Blok (1989-2004)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang (2004 onward)

Seriously, Trump was not even remotely the first (or second). Sure, they did not become the biggest in their respective countries, but resurged, they definitely did

Apart from quite possibly Le Pen, none of the aforementioned actually mattered on the political scale though. Like, some random far-right weirdo existing is somewhat different than Orban. or Trump. or Bolsonaro. or even BoJo. or... you get the point.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

has anyone listened to the entirely irrelevant argument of the Northern Irish QC in the SC hearing?

[Celritannia]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

Poor awareness of history seems to be rife unfortunately. In this day and age where you can access information so easily it's difficult to see why, beyond shocking levels of ignorance and a surge of people very happy to lie and spread false information.
Was hoping this century we would finally take the steps forward needed to put humans into a proper space age.

Sadly, from this, history always repeats, in a different form.

[Celritannia]

has anyone listened to the entirely irrelevant argument of the Northern Irish QC in the SC hearing?

How is it not relevant?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

has anyone listened to the entirely irrelevant argument of the Northern Irish QC in the SC hearing?

How is it not relevant?

Irrelevant to GVH's plan of achieving anarcho-capitalism via posadism. Probably...

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

There is something ironic about all this.
Around this time in the past 2 centuries there have been political upheavals and concerns.

1810s - Napoleon Bonaparte and the War of 1812 in North America.
1910s - Rise of Fascism and Communism following WW1
2010s - Brexit and Trump.

Poor awareness of history seems to be rife unfortunately. In this day and age where you can access information so easily it's difficult to see why, beyond shocking levels of ignorance and a surge of people very happy to lie and spread false information.
Was hoping this century we would finally take the steps forward needed to put humans into a proper space age.

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

[The Huskar Social Union]

has anyone listened to the entirely irrelevant argument of the Northern Irish QC in the SC hearing?

How is it not relevant?

GVH has a fetish for fucking over his own country and also its a recurring thing amongst brexiteers to completely fucking ignore or sideline the part of the UK (well supposed part, with the attitudes of many british people towards this place, which basically amounts to "Go fuck yourself, got mine") that stands to be hurt the most by brexit which is Northern Ireland.


So NI is irrelevant, and NI should fuck up and deal with it, HARD BOARDER NOW, and the paddies should keep quiet etc etc

[Fartsniffage]

has anyone listened to the entirely irrelevant argument of the Northern Irish QC in the SC hearing?

How is it not relevant?

Because the judges kept telling him to shut the fuck up about Brexit as they weren't going to make a ruling that takes it into account.

[The Huskar Social Union]

SDLP has been trying to form an electoral pact with Alliance and a few others, the main snippet i overheard was that SDLP wouldnt run in East Belfast, Alliance would not run in South Belfast in exchange, Alliance, being the party to lose far more from this flatly said no.


I wonder if they will agree to a pact in other areas, as SF floated the idea too.

[Andsed]

Boris Johnson given two-week EU deadline for Irish backstop plan



Daft Twat does Daft Twat things and knows fuck all.

Hard border when?

Hopefully not any time soon unless you want the troubles 2 electric boogaloo.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Hard border when?

Hopefully not any time soon unless you want the troubles 2 electric boogaloo.

This is the person who wants his country to implode and relishes every possible negative outcome of anything, so yeah he probably does.

[Fartsniffage]

How is it not relevant?

GVH has a fetish for fucking over his own country and also its a recurring thing amongst brexiteers to completely fucking ignore or sideline the part of the UK (well supposed part, with the attitudes of many british people towards this place, which basically amounts to "Go fuck yourself, got mine") that stands to be hurt the most by brexit which is Northern Ireland.


So NI is irrelevant, and NI should fuck up and deal with it, HARD BOARDER NOW, and the paddies should keep quiet etc etc

It's not that at all. It's the fact that the advocate for NI chose to waste his time before the court talking about issues not relevant to the case at hand even after the panel told him they weren't judging a hearing on Brexit. It's your guy who made the NI perspective irrelevant, not the court or the British people, on the issue of prorogation of Parliament.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

GVH has a fetish for fucking over his own country and also its a recurring thing amongst brexiteers to completely fucking ignore or sideline the part of the UK (well supposed part, with the attitudes of many british people towards this place, which basically amounts to "Go fuck yourself, got mine") that stands to be hurt the most by brexit which is Northern Ireland.


So NI is irrelevant, and NI should fuck up and deal with it, HARD BOARDER NOW, and the paddies should keep quiet etc etc

It's not that at all. It's the fact that the advocate for NI chose to waste his time before the court talking about issues not relevant to the case at hand even after the panel told him they weren't judging a hearing on Brexit. It's your guy who made the NI perspective irrelevant, not the court or the British people, on the issue of prorogation of Parliament.

It's perfectly relevant to discuss Brexit in a setting in which Brexit is what is being decided upon, or in pretty much any other setting but a court deciding on a case which isn't Brexit-related. Judges can't allow political considerations to affect their decisions, if you think about what the implications of that might be in other situations you wouldn't want it either.

[Salandriagado]

GVH has a fetish for fucking over his own country and also its a recurring thing amongst brexiteers to completely fucking ignore or sideline the part of the UK (well supposed part, with the attitudes of many british people towards this place, which basically amounts to "Go fuck yourself, got mine") that stands to be hurt the most by brexit which is Northern Ireland.


So NI is irrelevant, and NI should fuck up and deal with it, HARD BOARDER NOW, and the paddies should keep quiet etc etc

It's not that at all. It's the fact that the advocate for NI chose to waste his time before the court talking about issues not relevant to the case at hand even after the panel told him they weren't judging a hearing on Brexit. It's your guy who made the NI perspective irrelevant, not the court or the British people, on the issue of prorogation of Parliament.

Any worse than the guy who spent a quarter of his time going on about Hamlet and carpet design?

[The Huskar Social Union]

GVH has a fetish for fucking over his own country and also its a recurring thing amongst brexiteers to completely fucking ignore or sideline the part of the UK (well supposed part, with the attitudes of many british people towards this place, which basically amounts to "Go fuck yourself, got mine") that stands to be hurt the most by brexit which is Northern Ireland.


So NI is irrelevant, and NI should fuck up and deal with it, HARD BOARDER NOW, and the paddies should keep quiet etc etc

It's not that at all. It's the fact that the advocate for NI chose to waste his time before the court talking about issues not relevant to the case at hand even after the panel told him they weren't judging a hearing on Brexit. It's your guy who made the NI perspective irrelevant, not the court or the British people, on the issue of prorogation of Parliament.

Fair enough regarding the case yeah.


But actually just to make a general point, NI's view has always been Irrelevant to the rest of the UK regarding Brexit, especially the UK government and the conservative voters, tyhe last three years have shown that, with maybe the exception of the Scots who are in the same boat as us and also being completely sidelined.

[Vassenor]

UK ‘cannot meet’ EU deadline for Brexit plan and needs another year, government says

So much for "we leave on October 31st no matter what".

[Ifreann]

UK ‘cannot meet’ EU deadline for Brexit plan and needs another year, government says

So much for "we leave on October 31st no matter what".

Brex aeterna

[The Huskar Social Union]

Wouldnt hold my fucking breath