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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:56 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Wasatch wrote:Quite true. We need law and regulation to ensure that the freedom you enjoy and the life you are entitled to does not impede others.

There's no obligation on me to give a flying fuck about your life and good health. Don't try to protect mine, I won't try to protect yours.

So are you two now permitted to murder eachother or what? Is putting bullets in people's heads now permitted according to Ancap theology?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:59 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Wasatch wrote:Quite true. We need law and regulation to ensure that the freedom you enjoy and the life you are entitled to does not impede others.

There's no obligation on me to give a flying fuck about your life and good health. Don't try to protect mine, I won't try to protect yours.

Boy you really are into this whole "Fuck everything i wana see it burn" shtick arnt you.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:04 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:There's no obligation on me to give a flying fuck about your life and good health. Don't try to protect mine, I won't try to protect yours.

Boy you really are into this whole "Fuck everything i wana see it burn" shtick arnt you.

He wants the NHS dismantled, so par for the course.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:05 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Wasatch wrote:Quite true. We need law and regulation to ensure that the freedom you enjoy and the life you are entitled to does not impede others.

There's no obligation on me to give a flying fuck about your life and good health. Don't try to protect mine, I won't try to protect yours.


If that's the case, you don't need any assistance due to your impaired vision to help you live a normal life like everyone else.

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Postby Celritannia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:05 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Boy you really are into this whole "Fuck everything i wana see it burn" shtick arnt you.

He wants the NHS dismantled, so par for the course.


And thankfully, the almost 95% of the UK population do not.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:07 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:There's no obligation on me to give a flying fuck about your life and good health. Don't try to protect mine, I won't try to protect yours.


If that's the case, you don't need any assistance due to your impaired vision to help you live a normal life like everyone else.

Like what? I don't claim benefits, I don't have a bus pass, I use private healthcare, I take very very little from the state.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:09 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
If that's the case, you don't need any assistance due to your impaired vision to help you live a normal life like everyone else.

Like what? I don't claim benefits, I don't have a bus pass, I use private healthcare, I take very very little from the state.

Not an option for most people.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:10 pm

Why are we arguing with an Ancap theologian again? How's BoJo's Hulktm'ing and burning ship going?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:12 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Like what? I don't claim benefits, I don't have a bus pass, I use private healthcare, I take very very little from the state.

Not an option for most people.

That must be sad for them.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:12 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Why are we arguing with an Ancap theologian again? How's BoJo's Hulktm'ing and burning ship going?


Nothing important, ask again in November. :lol:
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:12 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Why are we arguing with an Ancap theologian again? How's BoJo's Hulktm'ing and burning ship going?

Beautifully.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Not an option for most people.

That must be sad for them.

And yet you want to abolish the NHS, which would be even sadder for them.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:That must be sad for them.

And yet you want to abolish the NHS, which would be even sadder for them.

I've lost my violin, can you help me look for it please? It's that really tiny one.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:15 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:And yet you want to abolish the NHS, which would be even sadder for them.

I've lost my violin, can you help me look for it please? It's that really tiny one.

Your total lack of concern for anyone except yourself is truly abhorrent.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:16 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I've lost my violin, can you help me look for it please? It's that really tiny one.

Your total lack of concern for anyone except yourself is truly abhorrent.

There are those I care about, and I don't actually wish anybody comes to harm.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:17 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
If that's the case, you don't need any assistance due to your impaired vision to help you live a normal life like everyone else.

Like what? I don't claim benefits, I don't have a bus pass, I use private healthcare, I take very very little from the state.


But taxes pay for noise emitting traffic lights, information board recordings, brail timetables, etc.

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:17 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Your total lack of concern for anyone except yourself is truly abhorrent.

There are those I care about, and I don't actually wish anybody comes to harm.

But that's exactly what'd happen by abolishing the NHS; so yes, you kinda do...
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:17 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Your total lack of concern for anyone except yourself is truly abhorrent.

There are those I care about, and I don't actually wish anybody comes to harm.


Which is why we have an NHS.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:19 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:There are those I care about, and I don't actually wish anybody comes to harm.


Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way? You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money.
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Postby The Wasatch » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:19 pm

As an American, I can tell you that there are no upsides to privatized healthcare that you can't get in another nation, other than maybe that American placebos are more powerful.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:20 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way?

Because many people can't.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:29 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Your total lack of concern for anyone except yourself is truly abhorrent.

There are those I care about, and I don't actually wish anybody comes to harm.

And yet you want the NHS dismantled, you want the UK to basically implode and go up in flames and you dont give a toss about the deteriorating condition of the environment.


Okay, sure.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way? You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money.
That is not an option for most people.


But i guess thats sad for them.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:55 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way? You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money.

Oh boy, time to learn about the tragedy of the commons.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:16 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way? You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money.


Yes, how about we all then pay private road and pavement guards before letting us the next few miles or so on foot, or keep up payments for a private fire service even if we never have a fire.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:19 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Which is why we have an NHS.

Why not just pay your own way? You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money.

Move to PRC. Enjoy having to meet toll booths on highways every single kilometre.
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