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What is your favoured form of brexit?

Mays deal
28
5%
EFTA
36
6%
Some other sort of deal (please elaborate in the comments)
24
4%
Mays deal without Irish backstop
9
2%
No deal
132
23%
No deal+ (no deal minus NI and Scotland)
20
4%
I want a second referendum
208
37%
Revoke article 50 without even calling a referendum
105
19%
 
Total votes : 562

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:00 am

Nimzonia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:We live in the stupidest timeline.

No, the stupidest timeline is that one where Neil Armstrong died of old age without anyone having got any further than he did.

Oh wait, that's us too...

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:00 am

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The Free Joy State wrote:I just stopped being able to hear the various local cat- and youth-repellers. Life is so much quieter now.

There really doesn't seem to be a hard-and-fast cut-off-point on when people can hear those things.


Here you can test it: https://youtu.be/_SHFwmPQ_rQ?t=137

Yeah the top range of my hearing is 18500Hz, which isn't bad considering.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:01 am

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The New California Republic wrote:SCOTUK is currently discussing the prorogue.

Oh fun. So BoJo might not get that. At this point it might make more sense to make Comrade Corbyn PM as he seems to be the one in charge

It's going to take three or four days to get through it though.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:02 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Here you can test it: https://youtu.be/_SHFwmPQ_rQ?t=137

Yeah the top range of my hearing is 18500Hz, which isn't bad considering.


Wow. That's actually extreme good.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:03 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Here you can test it: https://youtu.be/_SHFwmPQ_rQ?t=137

Yeah the top range of my hearing is 18500Hz, which isn't bad considering.

There's something wrong with either me or the test I am hearing the whole range without problems. <.>
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:07 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah the top range of my hearing is 18500Hz, which isn't bad considering.

There's something wrong with either me or the test I am hearing the whole range without problems. <.>

Keep in mind that I'm older than the average NS user, which accounts for my upper limit not being 20000Hz, whereas yours clearly is. In a few years mine will probably drop even further, possibly to 17000Hz or so.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:07 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yeah the top range of my hearing is 18500Hz, which isn't bad considering.

There's something wrong with either me or the test I am hearing the whole range without problems. <.>

Can you hear the sound of the test without doing the test?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:08 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:There's something wrong with either me or the test I am hearing the whole range without problems. <.>

Keep in mind that I'm older than the average NS user, which accounts for my upper limit not being 20000Hz, whereas yours clearly is. In a few years mine will probably drop even further, possibly to 17000Hz or so.

The condition that makes me blind didn't do much good for my hearing either, I can't get close to 18500 and I'm 22.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:10 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:There's something wrong with either me or the test I am hearing the whole range without problems. <.>

Keep in mind that I'm older than the average NS user, which accounts for my upper limit not being 20000Hz, whereas yours clearly is. In a few years mine will probably drop even further, possibly to 17000Hz or so.

So my range with another test is like 75 Hz to 20 kHz. <.>
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:11 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Keep in mind that I'm older than the average NS user, which accounts for my upper limit not being 20000Hz, whereas yours clearly is. In a few years mine will probably drop even further, possibly to 17000Hz or so.

So my range with another test is like 75 Hz to 20 kHz. <.>

I'm fine with the lower ranges, I'm using the 'generate noises ith audacity' test though.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:15 am

Also none of those tests are professional ones and may, due either their own issues (with the recording or the range) and as well your own speakers or headphones and settings etc., have a very great amount of inaccuracy. So its not exactly precise. Probably theres programs though.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:27 am

Nakena wrote:Also none of those tests are professional ones and may, due either their own issues (with the recording or the range) and as well your own speakers or headphones and settings etc., have a very great amount of inaccuracy. So its not exactly precise. Probably theres programs though.

I had to have hearing tests done when I was in the military. Not fun
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:33 am

Nimzonia wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:We live in the stupidest timeline.


No, the stupidest timeline is that one where Neil Armstrong died of old age without anyone having got any further than he did.


No, no, no.

The stupidest timeline is that one where Ug-Ug and Pug-Ug decide that dangerous fire thing isn't worth following up on, and decide not to leave the Rift Valley.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:34 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Nimzonia wrote:
No, the stupidest timeline is that one where Neil Armstrong died of old age without anyone having got any further than he did.


No, no, no.

The stupidest timeline is that one where Ug-Ug and Pug-Ug decide that dangerous fire thing isn't worth following up on, and decide not to leave the Rift Valley.


How is that the stupidest timeline? It's one without monarchies 8)
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Postby Zhivotnoye » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Thank you for admitting that you did not read my posts.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36207503#p36207503


So I'm cherry picking because I cited a single example in a post. That's fucking weak and you know it.

By this argument you've been cherrypicking because you've only attacked that and not, say, all the other examples of negatives and problems I've cited.


Yes, as that's what cherrypicking is. And no, there's nothing 'weak' about that since our entire dialoge was just about that.

No, i have not, as you haven't cited any other negatives and problems to me. Again, the only dialoge we had was about this.

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Zhivotnoye wrote:
Thank you for admitting that you did not read my posts.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36207503#p36207503

If you believe that other MPs should be mentioned, then maybe you should demonstrate why those other MPs should be mentioned instead of attacking others for not doing it.


Maybe you should have followed the conversation from the beginning.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm

Zhivotnoye wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So I'm cherry picking because I cited a single example in a post. That's fucking weak and you know it.

By this argument you've been cherrypicking because you've only attacked that and not, say, all the other examples of negatives and problems I've cited.


Yes, as that's what cherrypicking is. And no, there's nothing 'weak' about that since our entire dialoge was just about that.

No, i have not, as you haven't cited any other negatives and problems to me. Again, the only dialoge we had was about this.

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:If you believe that other MPs should be mentioned, then maybe you should demonstrate why those other MPs should be mentioned instead of attacking others for not doing it.


Maybe you should have followed the conversation from the beginning.


So because you haven't been paying attention to the discussion, I am cherry picking.

Notice that you're not even trying to attack the content of what I have said, and are instead acting like an accusation of cherry picking magically invalidates everything.
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:07 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Nimzonia wrote:
No, the stupidest timeline is that one where Neil Armstrong died of old age without anyone having got any further than he did.


No, no, no.

The stupidest timeline is that one where Ug-Ug and Pug-Ug decide that dangerous fire thing isn't worth following up on, and decide not to leave the Rift Valley.


Ug-Ug and Pug-Ug's timeline doesn't have the planet's top species poisoning the planet with full knowledge of what they are doing though...
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Postby Philjia » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:50 pm

The government "accidentally" signed off on illegal exports to Saudi Arabia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49722916

Now, to be clear, they weren't armaments, but they were supplies for the Saudi armed forces.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:38 pm

Khan has rolled out his scheme not to imprison non-violent women in London, while continuing to imprison non-violent male criminals, further demonstrating that allowing feminists in office ends up with inequality and the institutional sexism and discrimination it causes for men.

reminder that feminists liked to pretend that women were treated leniently by the justice system because of patriarchy, while at the same time other feminists were lobbying for that female privilege to become entrenched and widened.

Both Labour and the Lib Dems are supporting this policy, with the Tories leaning toward opposing it.

I expect feminists will regret it when anti-feminist women start vandalizing their property with some degree of regularity, as some MRA women have sworn to do. Might even be the start of some kind of colored shirt organization.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:38 pm

Philjia wrote:The government "accidentally" signed off on illegal exports to Saudi Arabia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49722916

Now, to be clear, they weren't armaments, but they were supplies for the Saudi armed forces.


I love how they include the £200 air cooler. :lol:
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:06 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Philjia wrote:The government "accidentally" signed off on illegal exports to Saudi Arabia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49722916

Now, to be clear, they weren't armaments, but they were supplies for the Saudi armed forces.


I love how they include the £200 air cooler. :lol:


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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Philjia wrote:The government "accidentally" signed off on illegal exports to Saudi Arabia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49722916

Now, to be clear, they weren't armaments, but they were supplies for the Saudi armed forces.


Hang on. Nearly half a million in radio spares, sure. One crappy air conditioner? Did they want to dodge paying for the shipping?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:39 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Philjia wrote:The government "accidentally" signed off on illegal exports to Saudi Arabia. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49722916

Now, to be clear, they weren't armaments, but they were supplies for the Saudi armed forces.


Hang on. Nearly half a million in radio spares, sure. One crappy air conditioner? Did they want to dodge paying for the shipping?


You think they’d just put another spare part on the order.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:46 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Hang on. Nearly half a million in radio spares, sure. One crappy air conditioner? Did they want to dodge paying for the shipping?


You think they’d just put another spare part on the order.


I'm more curious about why the UK is supplying parts for a Renault vehicle.

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