UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Nazis in Space]

Dark joke: if Brexit happens, then the UK can finally make the Irish starve to death again.

Alright, I'll see myself out.

It can't, actually. Ireland is a net exporter of food

The UK on the other hand, isn't.

[The Blaatschapen]

Dark joke: if Brexit happens, then the UK can finally make the Irish starve to death again.

Alright, I'll see myself out.

It can't, actually. Ireland is a net exporter of food

The UK on the other hand, isn't.

Of course the UK isn't. We have to check every pig's head for bits of David Cameron. Much easier to simply send it back.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Boris confirms his intention to violate the law over Brexit delay.

He's probably just lying again. Can't trust a damn word he says. The 'incredible' in 'incredible Hulk' meaning unbelievable in his case.

[Chan Island]

"Just stay in the EU, ffs"

Well, no, Britain was also give the "just join the bloody EEA like Norway" option. But that would have meant that the Poles and the Guidos could still have entered Albion to steal English jerbs! Britain can't have that, those jobs are for Pakistanis and Jamaicans!

Anyway, the last threat from Britain is "gimme what I want or I'll shoot myself in the foot". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49709430

The EU also offered Britain a customs union, but Britain insisted that we couldn't have that, because a customs union might mean being subject to rulings either by the ECJ or by another court that both parties would have a role in appointing judges for. And when the EU started pointing out that a Free Trade Agreement and/or a customs union is exactly that, a court, what else do you think it is, it didn't bother to finish because the Brexit secretary had been replaced and the PM was off on another round of insane nationalist rants.

[Uan aa Boa]

The EU also offered Britain a customs union, but Britain insisted that we couldn't have that, because a customs union might mean being subject to rulings either by the ECJ or by another court that both parties would have a role in appointing judges for. And when the EU started pointing out that a Free Trade Agreement and/or a customs union is exactly that, a court, what else do you think it is, it didn't bother to finish because the Brexit secretary had been replaced and the PM was off on another round of insane nationalist rants.

Also, being in a customs union would have prevented the UK from forging its own swashbuckling, wave-ruling trade deals because East India Company and Opium Wars or some such anachronistic bollocks.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Dark joke: if Brexit happens, then the UK can finally make the Irish starve to death again.

Alright, I'll see myself out.

It can't, actually. Ireland is a net exporter of food

The UK on the other hand, isn't.

Ireland is one of the most self sufficient countries in the world in terms of food. Which means not only is Priti Patel a cunt, she is also a fucking retard.

But given the UK governments trackrecord on acting like absolute fucking spastics its not that surprising.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

It can't, actually. Ireland is a net exporter of food

The UK on the other hand, isn't.

Ireland is one of the most self sufficient countries in the world in terms of food. Which means not only is Priti Patel a cunt, she is also a fucking retard.

But given the UK governments trackrecord on acting like absolute fucking spastics its not that surprising.

Are you "enjoying" the Hulk smashing yet? <.<

[The Huskar Social Union]

Ireland is one of the most self sufficient countries in the world in terms of food. Which means not only is Priti Patel a cunt, she is also a fucking retard.

But given the UK governments trackrecord on acting like absolute fucking spastics its not that surprising.

Are you "enjoying" the Hulk smashing yet? <.<

Boris Johnson couldn't smash a fucking porcelain twat

[Chan Island]

It can't, actually. Ireland is a net exporter of food

The UK on the other hand, isn't.

Ireland is one of the most self sufficient countries in the world in terms of food. Which means not only is Priti Patel a cunt, she is also a fucking retard.

But given the UK governments trackrecord on acting like absolute fucking spastics its not that surprising.

It should also be noted that the UK hasn't been self-sufficient with food since around the 1820s. There's a reason why in both world wars, our enemies poured a lot of time and effort into sinking our merchant navies.

But hey, who needs to think of such trivial things as food logistics when you can have a dose of nationalism and drunkenly proclaim how great you are instead?

The EU also offered Britain a customs union, but Britain insisted that we couldn't have that, because a customs union might mean being subject to rulings either by the ECJ or by another court that both parties would have a role in appointing judges for. And when the EU started pointing out that a Free Trade Agreement and/or a customs union is exactly that, a court, what else do you think it is, it didn't bother to finish because the Brexit secretary had been replaced and the PM was off on another round of insane nationalist rants.

Also, being in a customs union would have prevented the UK from forging its own swashbuckling, wave-ruling trade deals because East India Company and Opium Wars or some such anachronistic bollocks.

Not really. We would have had the option to negotiate separate trade deals under such a deal. Free Trade Agreements of course, which would be arbitrated by a court. With judges that are not solely appointed by UK politicians. Like the European Court of Justice, apparently one of the most evil institutions in history because it means there are foreign judges ruling on laws that everyone is subject to.

In the real world, the UK government's insistence that we couldn't possibly be subject to any ruling by the ECJ was a nail in the coffin. No agreement can possibly be brokered without some form of guarantor arbitrating and deciding on cases, where people operating under those rules may get disputes settled. Which immediately left it at no deal.

This video explained the problem very well, if memory serves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agZ0xISi40E

[Ostroeuropa]

The feminist hate movement in our media managed to make Cameron sympathetic by publishing articles in the guardian saying he only felt "privileged pain" after his 6 year old son died, which sufficiently alienated enough people that they're now backpedaling. This sentiment is not new to the guardian its was just slightly less surreptitious than usual. Think about how they always spin male suffering as resulting from privilege too.

[Vassenor]

The feminist hate movement in our media managed to make Cameron sympathetic by publishing articles in the guardian saying he only felt "privileged pain" after his 6 year old son died, which sufficiently alienated enough people that they're now backpedaling. This sentiment is not new to the guardian its was just slightly less surreptitious than usual. Think about how they always spin male suffering as resulting from privilege too.

Remember: Everything is secretly the fault of feminists trying to destroy the world.

Because you're the only person who's brought up feminism over this.

[Ostroeuropa]

The feminist hate movement in our media managed to make Cameron sympathetic by publishing articles in the guardian saying he only felt "privileged pain" after his 6 year old son died, which sufficiently alienated enough people that they're now backpedaling. This sentiment is not new to the guardian its was just slightly less surreptitious than usual. Think about how they always spin male suffering as resulting from privilege too.

Remember: Everything is secretly the fault of feminists trying to destroy the world.

Because you're the only person who's brought up feminism over this.

"Privilege" ideology and using it as a tool of political abuse was mainstreamed by intersectional feminists, as was this form of routine contempt and dismissal of the suffering and struggles of everyone who isn't a part of their in-group. Ignoring that is pointless.

Just like when a mass shooting happens people point out the far-right is normalizing this bullshit, it's valid to point out how this political environment is the responsibility of intersectional feminists and their hate movement.

[Vassenor]

Remember: Everything is secretly the fault of feminists trying to destroy the world.

Because you're the only person who's brought up feminism over this.

"Privilege" ideology and using it as a tool of political abuse was mainstreamed by intersectional feminists, as was this form of routine contempt and dismissal of the suffering and struggles of everyone who isn't a part of their in-group. Ignoring that is pointless.

So confirmation bias. Got it.

Meanwhile the Daily Mail declared war on the RNLI but that's perfectly OK apparently.

[Ostroeuropa]

"Privilege" ideology and using it as a tool of political abuse was mainstreamed by intersectional feminists, as was this form of routine contempt and dismissal of the suffering and struggles of everyone who isn't a part of their in-group. Ignoring that is pointless.

So confirmation bias. Got it.

Meanwhile the Daily Mail declared war on the RNLI but that's perfectly OK apparently.

That's not confirmation bias... Privilege theory is intersectional feminist theory and these are the consequences of that theory being normalized in society instead of recognized as the shell game of a hate movement.

It's like if someone quotes part a tenet of Nazi ideology as a reason they are a dick to Jews, it's not "Confirmation bias" to say; "See, this is an example of Naziism being a shit ideology and the consequences of its ideas being normalized.".

The article explicilty called out his privilege, so... what the fuck are you talking about?

[Novus America]

"Just stay in the EU, ffs"

Well, no, Britain was also give the "just join the bloody EEA like Norway" option. But that would have meant that the Poles and the Guidos could still have entered Albion to steal English jerbs! Britain can't have that, those jobs are for Pakistanis and Jamaicans!

Anyway, the last threat from Britain is "gimme what I want or I'll shoot myself in the foot". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49709430

Joining the EEA would be the easiest way. That way it could leave the Eu without any real economic impact, end the endless Brexit and finally do something.

Then if it really wanted to it could negotiate leaving the EEA a few years down the line.
Or not, it might not want to.

You do not have to do a massive deal to last forever in one leap.

Making and interim step and then deciding where to go from there is logical.

[Philjia]

The Graun should just change it's name to "The home of liberal spite" and be done with it.

[Vassenor]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

Yes

[Ostroeuropa]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

Um.

Why the fuck wouldn't we be? It's the clearest indication of a direction of an outlet.

The editorial board is a committee of the experts the paper employs who tell them what stance to take as a paper. This article is an indication of the spite, lack of empathy, and ideologically derived hatred the guardian has governing its entire organization.

This isn't some opinion piece. It's a piece from the people who dictate guardian positions. You should judge editorial pieces as especially relevant to gauging a papers inclinations.

Also shown here;
What happens when you hire feminists in your organization.

But "Not all feminists", right? Even though every organization with feminists having influence over it is a hate filled shit show (Go ahead, find one that isn't). But you know what "real feminism" is? Someone on the internet, not, you know, actual feminist organizations. I guess the only good feminist is a feminist without any ability to influence society and you know what, i'm happy to make them all like that if you are.

[Novus America]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

Yes, because they chose to publish said editorial.
And it is their open stated, official opinion as well as a window into the mindset of their staff and view of the world.
And clearly that window shows there is something very wrong and snide that mindset.

[Philjia]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

This is not the first time the Graun has published reactionary work, and it's unlikely to be the last. The country's foremost, and indeed only, liberal broadsheet should not be in the business of appealing to it's readership's base desire for schadenfreude or diminishing the experiences of those they disagree with.

[Ostroeuropa]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

Yes, because they chose to publish said editorial.

It's not just a matter of publishing it. It's a matter of it being a piece written and published by the people who dictate overall political positions the paper takes. This is a window into how they view the world and what type of people are gatekeeping the guardian. When an article makes it into the guardian, it's because it appealed to these people.

Like; if you found out they wrote an editorial on how anti-semitic conspiracies should be given more credit, you might just start giving more side-eye on their articles about israeli atrocities in palestine and why they get approved.

The fact these people are the ones gatekeeping for the guardian casts their articles on gender issues in general in a particular light.

[Vassenor]

Oh, are we allowed to judge an outlet based on its editorials again?

This is not the first time the Graun has published reactionary work, and it's unlikely to be the last. The country's foremost, and indeed only, liberal broadsheet should not be in the business of appealing to it's readership's base desire for schadenfreude or diminishing the experiences of those they disagree with.

And would we be seeing this sort of retraction and apology from any other newspaper in the country?

Like, say, the tabloid that was blackmailing Gareth Thomas?

[Dumb Ideologies]

The Guardian is an elaborate experiment to see how many forms of social prejudice one can sneak into a newspaper and how milquetoast one can be on economics while still getting away with presenting oneself as left wing.

Tomorrow's editorial: hElLo FeLlOw LeFt WiNgErS: Jeremy Corbyn is old, white and male, send him to Dignitas.

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is not the first time the Graun has published reactionary work, and it's unlikely to be the last. The country's foremost, and indeed only, liberal broadsheet should not be in the business of appealing to it's readership's base desire for schadenfreude or diminishing the experiences of those they disagree with.

And would we be seeing this sort of retraction and apology from any other newspaper in the country?

Like, say, the tabloid that was blackmailing Gareth Edwards?

That doesnt mean they cant be criticised for stupid fucking shit like this.